April 23-Ghostly Podcast, William Shakespeare, Roy Orbison, Lee Majors, Valerie Bertinelli, George Lopez, Taio Cruz

0:19 Well, hi everyone. I am Jeff and welcome to history in fact good it's about today. Today's a twenty third now my ghost Today. He just has an awesome podcast. Man, I'm telling you well, I'm not even gonna explain it. I'm gonna let him and his partner do it. Welcome to Ghostly, Dad, what are you doing? What? I want people to know that we're a podcast that takes a deep dive into some of the scariest ghost stories. Oh, we don't do the creepy voices or weird sound effects. We debate the ghost stories. And are you supposed to be the skeptic? I am, but they'll find that I once say listen. Look, all you have to do is tell them to listen to Ghostly and that our listeners get to decide which stories are real. And which stories are just old folklore exactly now, Ghostly it is just a great show. Whether you're into ghost stories or not, it is pretty good. Pat, why don't you introduce yourself?

1:08 Thank you so much, Jeff. I'm Pat. I am the creator of Ghostly podcast. Although I am the skeptic, so it's a it's a weird combination that the skeptic is the one that created a ghost podcast. But we know, we debate ghost stories and I have a lot of fun with it. It's it's a it's a passion of mine. Even though I'm not a believer, I still I still love the creepy stories. So you've always been into the books and movies and that kind of stuff. That's scary, John Reigess. You know, I don't think I'm as big into horror as my co host Rebecca is. I. I mean, I like a horror movie, but I don't go out of my way to see it. I don't know. I like the B rated ones and stuff like that. She she does, Oh, she's yeah, she really loves that kind of stuff.

1:57 Not a slasher flip kind of guy on. I mean everyone once in a while, Like there was that Thanksgiving one that was that was pretty good. Yeah, that's true. That was kind of thinking because I was in the eighties and pretty much that's all you had was slasher flicks for horror, and then you had like, oh yeah, but then I'm kind of like you. I'd like the more cerebral that that freaks me out more than just slasher. When if you have to think of that, that's a lot scarier. It seems like. I mean, if I had to go Slasher, I would go House of a Thousand Corpses. That's that's my thing. The Rob Zombie flick, that would be mine. Rebecca would probably give you ten that you've never heard of before. Rob Zombie. He really turned that into quite the career after music, didn't He absolutely?

2:39 Yeah, Yeah, I think he's still still doing music too. He's he's got a he's got a pretty lucrative career going there. Yeah. You know what, today is a pretty cool day. Questions are you looking for looking for friend or just trying to catch you bulls? You read who I tell bos out of you all the day? I'll never know f No. Today is national take a chance to now. It encourages you to break out of your comfort zone.

3:20 You know, go for something that you've been hasn't to presume, you know, ask somebody out, you know, go for a promotion or raise at work. You know, try something you've wanted to do but just haven't done it, like go on to hike gun and really trail, or go my surfing or something like that. You know, just you know, just do something out of your own and don't ask other people, you know, don't worry about their opinions. Do what you believe is right. You know, you can even start your own business, or you can start your own podcast. What made you go out on the limb and start your own podcasts? Their pat Ah. So I was listening to the probably one of the biggest paranormal podcasts that there's ever been, lore Uh, and I kept thinking to myself, he can't believe all of these stories though, And that's when the idea kind of hit me. Maybe maybe take these stories to court and see, you know, see what the what the listener thinks. So that's how that's how I came up with ghostly.

4:16 It works really well. What actually freaks you out? Oh man, maybe more aliens? I would say, I'm less of a skeptic when it comes to aliens than it is ghost And other than that, you know, real life freaks me out. There's a lot of weird stuff going. On that is, yeah, life freaking Well, if you're gonna take a chance, you might as well be have some nutrition. In young English do and what you do English. Today is actually also an English muffin day. Now, the English muffin in England, they just call it muffins. Started over and way about nine hundred somewhere around there. Came to America in the eighteen eighties. Samuel Thomas. He immigrated from England and he started bacon muffins, sold them to hotels and grocery starts. Since he used his mum's recipe, he just called them English muffins. Now, Thomas, they're still the top selling English muffin makers here in the United States.

5:16 Funny side note, since nineteen ninety America they've been exporting English muffins into England. Do you like English muffins? Oh? Yeah, I love them. They're good with a little jam on them or preserves. That's really good. Agreed, But I've gotten spoiled now. I kind of like having the egg and bacon between the two. Oh yeah, yeah from McDonald's. Yeah definitely. So where do you guys find your ghost stories at? You know, every place seems to be haunted. Rebecca, Well, she's turning to pick more of them now. I was picking them all for the longest time. I was just looking for whatever sounded like the coolest idea to me. And like we did the Conjuring, we did Waverly Hills that was a big one for us, and you know, I just I just found them all fascinating.

6:03 So you're the skeptic. Have there been something that when you got done with that you were kind of like, Yeah, I think I might believe that one. Yeah, there's nothing. Really. I'm a zen Buddhist too, so it kind of goes against what I believe to believe in these spirits and stuff like that. So I don't think anything is going to turn me. But I'm always. Hopeful unless it's going on entertainment on April twenty third, let's bet there. In nineteen seventy five Numb when album was Physical Graffiti by Led Zeppelin. Elton John had the number one song with Philadelphia Freedom. The number one country was by Billy Joe Spears Blanket on the Ground, remember that.

7:04 One Love First Boundness, I'm in then all the Blankets Own. The number one book was Something Happened by Joseph Heller. Top movie it was Death Rays two thousand in the future, a car race across the country requires drivers to run down innocent people. The more brutal to kill, the more points they get. Stars David Carrotting. So that's stallone and simone Griffith. It'd be some serious ghost stories that they did that, wouldn't they. Oh I'm sure. Yeah.

7:45 One thing I want everybody to really really appreciate about the Ghostly podcast. But you guys are really cool with your engaging with your listeners. Yeah, oh thanks. That's one of my One of my biggest things is that I don't want it to be boring for anyone. I want them to have their input and I want them to be a voice on the show as well, so they're like our third co host. We have them vote if they think that an episode or that a story is real or not, and more times than not, people say that they are. So I'm always losing. Gonna ask who wins? You were Rebecca, but it's more her. Uh yeah, even ones that I know that are debunked, like we will talk about like Amityville, speaking of seventies Amityville.

8:32 You know, it's pretty much been been debunked, but no people say it's real. So whatever. You guys even did the Stanley Hotel out here in Colorado? Right, Oh yeah we did? Yeah, Yeah, that was a good one. Where that have you ever been? I haven't stayed the night there, but I've been up there. Cool? Cool? So how that one go? Do they people agree with that one or now? Oh yeah they yeah, they thought that one was haunted for sure. And you ever read Sting? Yeah? Yeah, I've wrote a couple. I you know, I haven't gotten into all of the all of the cowboys stuff and all that stuff with him. But yeah, I really like Stephen King.

9:13 Yeah, I like him too, But I haven't really honestly been a good reader for a while now. But I used to really like Dean Kon's You ever read him? Oh? Yeah, absolutely? Yeah, Yeah, my dad was a big Dean kons fan. That's what we were talking about. That's pretty subrebral and freaky. Yeah, definitely, all right, let's se it happened out April twenty third, sixteen thirty five, the oldest public school in the United States opened up. It was in Boston. It's called the Boston Latin School. Now they're called the Boston Latin wolf Back nowadays. Some of the famous alumni are John Quincy Adams, Sam Adams, Leonard Bernstein. The list goes on. Now. Harvard was actually found one year later and Steen thirty six. That's the oldest college out there. Boston Latin now it's really hard to get into academically, but it is a public school. So if you get in, yeah, you don't have pituition or anything. Eighteen fifty one, Canada they issued their first postage stamp. That was the first stamp world history. Yeah, well, they didn't have a person on their stamp. Now Canada they went with the Beaver eighteen sixty one and after turning down the Union Army's officer Robert E. Lee, he was named commander for the Confederate Army out of Virginia.

10:16 Nineteen under the word hillbilly was used for the very first time. It was in the New York Journal newspaper. They were trying to describe some of their people. Wow, I had no idea that hill billy was first used. Then free kind of funny. Yeah. So in nineteen twenty two, after World War One in Turkey, that was the last Ottoman sultan, which was Memid the sixth. He was given as marching orders and had to leave his palace on the very day that marked the end of the entire Ottoman monarchy. It was a real turning point. Imagine he was exiled to Italy, of all places, he had to go to Italy and spend all of his time there, guy and get the back.

11:00 In his heyday, the Ottoman Empire was massive. It stretched all the way from what is Austria to Yemen and across to Algerier and to the Persian golf. So it was it was huge, yep. And then in nineteen eighty five, after ninety nine years, Coca Cola and I remember this like it was yesterday, Coca Cola decided to change its secret formula. They made new coke then and it went on sale. It was a huge flop. People hated it. They wanted it to taste more like pepsi. Actually, they ended up bringing back the old coke as classic coke, and after only three months. It would have been a brilliant marketing strategy if they had actually planned it, which nobody really knows. Coca Cola is not patented. If they were, they would have to actually tell you what the recipe is. Also, in nineteen ninety, McDonald's opened the first fast food round in Shenzhen, China, And in two thousand and five the first video was uploaded to YouTube. It was Me at the Zoo by co founder Johwood Carmen. He showed himself in front of two elephants at the San Diego Zoo and you can still see it today. It's pretty humble beginnings for the giant that YouTube has become.

12:23 That's very sure. Okay, Well, with all the ghost stories that you've heard, I'm deserved that kind of entertain you though, otherwise you wouldn't be interested in him. So what's it take to make a really good interesting ghost story? Ooh, that's a really good question. To me. It would have to be something like, as a skeptic, I would want something that could be repeated over and over again. But there doesn't seem to be that. So a classic ghost story has a woman in white. For some reason, all of them have these women in white and then these disembodied voices. Like it's not enough to say that they are voices coming out of nowhere. You have to say disembodied when you say it. So that's that's the classic formula for a ghost story nowadays.

13:09 So what was the very first show? What was your first ghost story that you actually did? Yeah, there's a local one. I'm from Chicagoland area and there's one called Resurrection Mary. It's actually it's a vanishing hitchhike hitchhiker story, and the first vanishing hitchhiking hitchhiker story was actually in the Bible, believe it or not, it was. I mean, obviously it wasn't a car picking somebody up, but it was a hitchhiker. So Mary walks down Archer Avenue and people will pick her up and she will disappear out of her out of their car as they passed Resurrection Cemetery. So I'd take it you debunked it. Huh.

13:52 I thought I did, but I guess I didn't because we've done two episodes on this and both times I got voted out. So that's funny. Joke, joked joke, dish shimer day, he left this shivery simpleta let thish shibt day. And you don't do. Birthday, all right? I already check out who was born on April twenty third. Have you heard of any ghost stories about William Shakespeare? I know his his house was haunted where he grew up. I don't know if we've done an episode about that yet.

14:32 And Rebecca would love to because she is a English She was an English master, and she she also was a professor of English, so she would love to do that, but uh, I've heard some things. I just we've never really took a deep dive into that one. Right. Well, Shakespeare's born in Stratford upon Avon, England in fifteen sixty four. Most famous play right in history. I'm sure pretty much everybody read at least one of his plays back in high school. Guessing probably Romeo and Juliet Hamlet. Julius Caesar macbeth Othello wrote about forty of them. Now. He married in fifteen eighty two and they had three children. Now he retired from riding in sixteen thirteen. He'd had enough.

15:14 He's only forty nine years old. Then he died in sixteen sixteen on his fifty second birthday. Now knowing sure how he died, Yeah, he was really healthy and all that, But all the people who are close to him, they think it was alcohol pisoning. It sounds like, oh, Willie was partying pretty hard on that birthday party. But it's a true Shakespearean tragedy. James Mucannon He was born in Cove Gap, Pennsylvania, in seventeen ninety one. He has a career politician. Served as a fifteenth President of the United States. From eighteen fifty seven to eighteen sixty one. Considered absolutely one of the most horrible presidents in the United States history. The United States, they would have probably gone to war with itself anyway in the Civil War, but he did such a bad job that he made the Civil War pretty much unavoidable. And it's not anything he really did. He didn't do anything to prevent He just kept kicking the can down the road and letting everything build up and build up. But James, he wasn't only that's the president we've had.

16:02 Yeah. His niece Harry, she served as his first lady. He died in eighteen sixty eight to seventy seven years old from resbytery failure in Nisia where Van Ban play a man. Nay El ray Well. So that was Shirley Temple. She was born in Santa Monica, California, in nineteen twenty eight. She made her first movie at three years of age. From nineteen thirty four to nineteen thirty eight, she made back to back biggest box office draws in the world. From the time she was three to ten, she made twenty nine movies. She made fourteen movies after that and then retired at the age of twenty two years old. Later in life, she was a US ambassador to Ghana and to Czechoslovakia. She married her first husband when she was seventeen. They had a daughter and divorced after five years. She married her second husband in nineteen fifty. They had a son and daughter, and her husband died in two thousand and five. Shirley eventually died in twenty fourteen of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or COPD, and she was eighty five years old.

17:24 Would you heard me. Ussy very. Scum me? I just like me so? Roy Orbison was born in Vernon, Texas, in nineteen thirty six. He wrote most of his songs, some of his number one hits only the Lonely Running On Scared Cry Yi in Oh Pretty Woman, and in nineteen eighty he formed the supergroup that traveling Woolbury's with George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Patty. And when Roy was fifty two years old, he died from a massive heart attack in nineteen eighty eight. He had three children. His first wife married his second wife at nineteen sixty nine, and they had two children. There is actually a ghost story attributed with Roy Lie so I guess Johnny Cash was in the operating room and he was dying on the table and they were able to bring him back to life. And when they brought him back to life, he said that he heard Roy Orbison telling him it wasn't his time yet, and then he had to get up.

18:41 So I guess there's a ghost of him. So that's really cool. Yeah, yeah, and pless Roy Orbison. Think about how smart he was. I mean, if he form a band of the Traveling Little Bears and you put Bob Dylan, Tom Patty and George Harrison, you know, you get a sing lead. Yeah, there you go. That's true. You'll probably be the spokesman too. See Austin astronaut a man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology, We have the capability to make the world's. First buy on him. Man actor Lee Majors. He was born in Wine Dot, Michigan.

19:25 He started out starring on the TV show The Big Valley, then The Six Million Dollar Man, than The Fall Guy. Now. I don't know a lot of you aren't old enough to realize back in the seventies how big The six Million Dollar Man was. Yeah, they even had their own action figure, looked just like a g I Joe doll and that kind of stuff. Natalie. He had one son from his first wife, married Pharah Fossa for six years, and then he had a daughter and twin sons from his third wife. He's been married to his fourth wife since two thousand and two. So is there one area of the country that seems to be more predominant on those stories than any other area? Wow? I would say a lot of stories that we that we've done, and there's like an endless supply. It is either Chicago or New Orleans, those two areas, and they have a lot in common actually because of the I in m Canal, which was the waterway that went from the Mississippi to the Great Lakes. So maybe there's something to that. But that seems to be the most haunted area in the world.

20:21 Huh. That's interesting. Actress Sandy d She was born in Bay, New Jersey in nineteen forty two, late fifties, early sixties. Yes, she was the most popular actress now. She had actually started out as a child model. Then she hit really big in the movie Gidget and It Pretime from acting in nineteen eighty three, she had a lot of like they didn't know it at the time, but it'd be like Anarexi and that kind of stuff. Now, she married Bobby Varren for seven years and they had a daughter, Sandra. She died from kidney disease in two thousand and five at sixty two years old. So most of you probably don't remember the TV show Fantasy Island. I'm going to show my age because I definitely do. It's from the seventies. Actor Hervey Villaschaz was born in Paris, France, in nineteen forty three. He only grew to be three foot eleven inches tall. He started off as an artist. He was a talented painter. Then he wanted to make some extra money, so he went into acting. He first got known in the James Bond movie Man with the Golden Gun. He played the villain Knickknack, and on TV what we just heard was him as Tattoo on Fantasy Island, where he had the classic line deplaying deplaying boss. He divorced twice. In nineteen ninety three, he committed suicide at fifty years old. He did leave a suicide note and he said he was in so much chronic pain from what caused his dwarf ism. He

21:53 couldn't take it anymore. Knock on a door, Eve been waiting for you. A person. That was one of my favorite shows growing up. That's actress Joyce de Witt. This was seventy six born in Wheeling, West Virginia. She graduated from Speedway Senior High School and it's in the part of Indianapolis where the Speedway is, hence the name. She is best known for playing Janet on the TV Show's Threes Company, but now she mainly does theater stuff.

22:38 She has done a. Lot of charity work for hunger and homelessness. What's the most famous person that you've heard of us a ghost story about? He just talked about like Roy Orbison. Is there anybody bigger? Oh my god, Well, it depends. We can go like George Washington, probably one of the most popular. But we actually had Rain Wilson come on the show once and he told us a ghost story as a character of his. But the ghost story was actually a Rain Wilson ghost story. Even though he was portraying a character named Terry Carnation, his story was legitimate to his own life. Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, I put that on the show notes. Some people go check that out. Yeah, today is TV theme song Day. I believe. Actors. Valerie Burt Ellie.

23:44 She's sixty five. She's born in Wilmington, Delaware. She was fifteen when she started on starring on the show One Day at a Time. Later on much later, she was on but Touched by an Angel than Hot in Cleveland. She does host a lot of shows on the Food Channel, but then she also does a lot of Jenny Craig Valerie. She married Eddie then Aileen in nineteen eighty one and they had one son. They divorced in two thousand and seven. Valerie and Ellie, Yeah, they became really good buddies after they got divorced. Or Eddie even went to her second MILLENNI Now she divorced that guy after eleven years, and she was actually at Eddie's bedside when he died from cancer. Comedian actor George Lopez. He was born in Los Angeles sixty four today. Started out as a very successful stand up comedian, still is. He's actually out on tour until the end of August. If you want to go check George on on TV. He starred on George Julpez Lopez, Lopez Tonight and Lopez Versus Lopez. That's been on the here since twenty two. It's still on. He's voiced a lot of movies.

24:38 Now. He needed a kidney transplant. His wife, she was able to give her one of his Yeah, that was back in two thousand and five. So yeah, it worked. He's still out there doing good. Well. The marriage didn't work out, though, They divorced in twenty eleven after eighteen years. They had one daughter, celebrated by Life seven. Cous Me going back, We gonna go all night, we go like see, I guess dined no Mike, as I told you once, Now I told you twice. Gone, I guess dined no Mike. So that was forty five year old Tyo Cruz. He was born in Brent, England. He started out writing hit songs for a lot of other artists. In two thousand and eight, they let him sing some of his hits break Your Heart with Ludacris, Dynamite Higher, That's with Kylie Minogue.

25:33 Tyo reportedly married Rock sand Oil in twenty eighteen. And by the way, kidney transplant. I had a kidney transplant almost a year ago now, and so yeah, definitely check out the National Kidney Foundation. That's cool and you're doing good and everything keeping acting. Yeah, I actually a listener donated is kidney to me? Wow, that is that's a ghost story right there. Yeah, right, so I am actually part part believer because he's a believer. So so I'm assuming he was still alive. Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so I have I have won one part of me that is a believer though thankfully.

26:14 Yeah yeah it did. Doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, okay. So yeah, like we were talking about how good you guys are with your listeners and all that kind of stuff. If they even send your ghostory in, you guys will read it on the air, right. Absolutely, we will, and we're always looking for him. The last couple of episodes, we we haven't had many, so yeah, if you send send us a ghost story, we will definitely read it on air. We did get one for the next episode. Our next episode is going to be about Aaron Burr, you know, Hamilton Days and stuff, So really excited about that one. But yeah, Ghostly has been going for six years now. We're about to hit our seventh year in October. We're really excited to keep bringing Ghostly to the people.

27:00 It's a really good show. You guys all got to check it out, and I'll put the link to our website and everything afterwards. And once in a while, you guys even do panels and stuff, right. Yeah, Yeah, we just did one at C two E two, which is a comic convention in Chicago. It's it's like our version of like the San Diego Comic Convention where it's really big. Actually it's not like one of the ones that's just in a hotel. This is in our convention center. And we did a panel in front of three hundred people talking about children's memorials and other spooky stuff and it went really well. That is really cool. Yeah, all right, we have a quote of the day. We're going to end with our quote of the day with sportscasts Howard coach Sell. He's died today in nineteen ninety five at seventy seven years old.

27:47 Howard said, what's right isn't always popular, and what's popular isn't always right. Well, thank you bad for joining us day. Man, it's been fun talking to you. I like ghost stories. Yeah, well maybe maybe you can come on Ghostly and some ghost stories. I got a couple. I men, sure, okay, all right, I would I would love to hear them. So's good. All right. We have an internet radio station called Country Ground Radio, and uh, we're gonna end with our country underground radio artists of the day Today we're gonna end with muscating but bloodline. Yeah, and they have they's on Teenage Dixie. You guys have an awesome day and we'll talk tomorrow. All in recollection of a scene you forty is tailing on a two beer busted blue lights flashing down river.

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