Aug. 14, 2025

Aug 15-Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lawrence, The Jonas Brothers, Debra Messing, Bill McCormick, Happy Birthday India

Aug 15-Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lawrence, The Jonas Brothers, Debra Messing, Bill McCormick, Happy Birthday India
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My Co-Host today is SciFi writer Bill McCormick or Bill McSciFi, one of the top SciFi writers, Bill is giving you the opportunity to download for FREE the first book of his Award Wining  The Brittle Riders trilogy, Hit up his website   https://billmcscifi.com/   you will enjoy more than just the book,  We had a great time talking about Lemon Meringe Pie, music, Woodstock, trains, the US stealing the Black Hills from the SIoux nation. Celebrated India's birthday.Todays birthdays - Napolean, Rose Marie, Bill Pickney, Bobby Helms, Debra Messing, Ben Affleck, Anthony Anderson, Natasha Henstridge, Joe Jonas, Jennifer Lawrence.  Will Rogers died.

Intro - God did good - Dianna Corcoran     https://www.diannacorcoran.com/
Lemon Meringue - Fishbone
Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO
Just a kiss - Lady Antebellum 
Minstral From Gault - Richie Havens
Birthdays - In da club - 50 Cent    https://www.50cent.com/ 
Celebration - Kool and the Gang
Steamboat - The Drifters
Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms
Sucker - The Jonas Brothers
Exit - Cold beer - Buck Ford     https://www.buckford.com/
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Hi everyone, I am Jeff and welcome to History and

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Factoid's about today. I have a really cool co host today. Yeah,

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whether any science fiction or not, you're gonna love this guy.

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He's got the nickname mixed sci Fi. Bill wants to go

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ahead and reduce yourself.

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And everybody see you listening and home. My my name

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is Bill McCormick aka Bill mcs sci Fi. The nickname

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comes from an Amazon account that went horribly wrong that

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for a brief, brief moment in time, I was technically

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publishing religious materials and sports blogs. Uh not not what

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I do, but we got it all straightened out. So

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one guy's mix sports, another guy's make religion. I'm mixed

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sci Fi.

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I gotta stuck with you. So what got you into

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sci fi? He started when you were a kid?

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Yeah, yeah, I liked the whole idea of the future

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worth living in as a kid. That really appealed to me,

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and finding and looking at things in different ways. You know,

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you learned a lot in I grew up in in

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the suburbs of Chicago, and so it was very white,

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very conservative, very Catholic in my area. So you didn't

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get a lot of diversity you didn't get a lot

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of different people. You didn't get a lot of anything.

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But you watch shows like Star Trek. There were black

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people and brown people and they were just doing the

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same stuff all the white people were doing. And that

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was to me, as a six seven year old kid

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in the sixties, that was amazing. Was alien. I didn't

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know that could happen. And it helped me in life,

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you know, become aware that you know, there are more

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people than us out there and we need to we

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need to be able to deal with them and work

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with them and become friends with them. And I'm a drinker,

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you know whatever, But it helped open my eyes to

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the world at large. And sci fi has always stuck

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with me with that.

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Well, it's definitely imaginative. I guess you'd sall it. I mean,

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your mind could just go anywhere with that. So when

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you kind of think of like when you're righting today

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and you can, like, I don't know, see like a

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space ship or something in your head. Is it something

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that just comes completely out of your head or is

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it something that you might have seen in real life

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and then thought just modified a little bit to fit

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science fiction.

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Yes, to all of the above. I mean some stuff

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I just wake up in the middle of the night

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and go, I bet I could do something with that.

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And it's just from nowhere, just my brain going, you know,

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doing some wool gathering. And other times you look at stuff.

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We used to do this experiment when I was a kid.

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It's a little game we used to play when I

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was in school. You'd hold a pencil in your hand

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and you had to say what it could be. Could

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be a rocket shift, it could be a trolley, it

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could be a train. You had to imagine it being

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different things other than a pencil. And I kind of

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take that exercise with me into day to day life

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every day. It stuck with me.

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We said, the Star Trek, really you get? Is there

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any type of specific science fiction that really they still

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even today? Kind of is what you kind of lead

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towards the most.

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I lean more towards hard sci fi, although I do

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like some of the sci fi fantasy stuff, especially my

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writing gets dumped into that category. I'm not that big

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on fantasy. Nothing against it. There's some incredible fantasy authors

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out there. I just done the whole dragons thing. I

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don't know. I just don't get into it. As much

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I like being able to say we could build this,

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we could do this. There's a realm of possibility that

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this could happen. So I stick with stuff that you know,

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I stick with stuff that could be. And you know,

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there's a lot everyone from Octavia Butler to Robert Heinleine

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have covered a lot of ground that leaves Puney room

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to go. We could do this. This is within our

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realm of possibility. Here's one way of looking at how

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it could get done. And that's interesting to me.

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Well, and it's so amazing when you look back at

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like the history of science fiction way back when some

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of the stuff that they wrote about's come true, and

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it's a bizarre you never thought they did even have

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the basis for coming up with some of that stuff.

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Well, you know, it's h. G. Wells wants to talk

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about that if fish could live under to see why

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couldn't man And then he strapolated on that and he

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came up with the very first submarine and Juli Fern

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in the whole adventures there with the Nautilus and all that,

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and you know Arthur C. Clark, he wondered, he goes,

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could we get a method from Earth? Into space back

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to Earth so we could talk to more more people

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than we had before. Now he not only imagined what

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a satellite could be, he actually invented it. The very

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first satellites. Arth Ce Clark was on the crew to

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actually developed them. Al but Siorai, the physicist out in Mexico,

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he looked at a Star Trek episode and you know,

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faster than light travel, and everyone laughed at him, and

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then he went, you know, I bet we could do this.

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And now his equations are the basis of us trying

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to build a faster than light engine. So I discount

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nothing when it comes to what we can do. It's

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just why are we willing to do it? Are we willing?

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Are we willing to put the effort into it to

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make it? Make something happen that benefits everybody.

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That's for sure. It's just amazing. Hey, do you want

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to like celebrating today?

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Sure? Why not? It's anyway.

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I suppose it.

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I should lie the reason.

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It is National Lemon Meringue Pie Day. You a lemon

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Mari limon mering pie guy?

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Actually I am. My mother used to make a really

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good one.

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Yeah, they're pretty basic really in principle, anyway, they're just

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their crust is golden short bread, then the filling is

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lemon curd, and then they're topped with meringue. Meringue is

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just beaten egg wipe, so they add some sugar to it.

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People actually started eating lemons for dessert back in the

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year one thousand. Then the French they created meringue. In

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the seventeen hundreds, Americans, we combined the two of them

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came up to the first limon meringue pie recipes. They

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start showing up in cookbooks in about eighteen sixty nine.

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Now they're actually the healthiest kind of pie. If you're

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gonna eat one, you know, there's really not it's bad

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about them. So if you want to enjoy the dog

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days of summer today, join some limon rang pie. Then

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relax because today is also National Relaxation Day. That's right.

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You just get to sit back and do nothing today.

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I guess that's cool. If you're out of work early,

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A good way to celebrate your Friday. Are you going

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to sell it relaxing? You're gonna relax today?

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I relax every day. I'm a writer. That's what I do.

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I just relax.

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That's true. Well, I was kind of going through your

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website you do you do blog squad a bit and

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kind of give everybody else what you're up to, don't you.

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Right, I have a newsletter. It started out with eleven

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people in twenty seventeen. I started working with that and

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now it's just under five thousand subscribers, so it's been growing.

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And I discovered what people charge to host newsletters the

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size of mine, and I laughed because I'd have to

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sell a kidney just to do that. So I went

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in and I found some software and I rebuilt it

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and now I can do my own newsletters from my computer.

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Two thousands of people, it doesn't matter. And then I

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store them on my blog so anyone who misses one

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can go read them. And that's worked out. That's turned

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out to be a very handy little thing. It's like,

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you know, some people will write me like, well, what

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about this or what about that? Or didn't you say this?

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Didn't you say that? Look you're there's the original post.

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There you go, and uh, I like having you know

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that that. On the one hand, it keeps me accountable,

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and on the other hand, it prevents some of the

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goofy stuff that goes on online. I can circle right

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back and go, nope, there's there's there's the truth.

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Have at it now that it keeps your your fans

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involved too.

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Yeah, my fan base is really fun. They they respond

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to stuff. As a matter of fact. Today is a

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really good example of there's a gentleman from Bangladesh who

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follows along my stuff. And I put up a promo

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for one of my uh for my book co Three

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of the Mysts, and it had a typo in it.

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When I didn't catch it, nobody caught it. This guy,

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who English is his third language, not only caught it,

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he wrote me a lovely little letter saying, mister Bill,

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someone at your team let you down. There's a typo

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and about it like, no, no team, buddy, it's me.

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I screwed up, you know. But but that amazes me

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that there are people out there. I have a fan

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club in India, and it's just like I'm sitting in

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Chicago knocking stuff out and you know, I'm hoping somebody

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reads it and then you'd find out you go to

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my LinkedIn there's a whole bunch of people from India

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up there who follow me rather rather strenuously, rather religiously

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and they're very into what the universe have created. And

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it's fun. It's you know, it's it keeps me on

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my toes because I can't put I can't. I'm not

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gonna slide anything fansome either, you know, either it meets

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the it meets their approval, or it gets laughed at,

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and so far I have not got laughed ats. I'm doing. Okay,

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there you go.

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All right, let's who's going on to entertainment on August fifteenth,

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Let's go to your twenty eleven. The number one album

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was Chief by Eric Church. The top song was by

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L M f Ao. It was party rock, anthem.

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Rock, everybody, you know, everybody, every.

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Lady, Antebella, methanem one country song with just a kiss,

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just a kiss on your heads and a little mind,

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just a talk shore the bomb but it's so bad,

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not on mastesting on a close too.

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Far, just a shot and the duc that you just

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my lean alone on the.

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Land for.

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The number one book was Colt Vengeance by Douglas Preston

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and Lincoln Child. Since we're talking about books, you're I

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can't be the only person who thought this, But I

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was blonde and drank a lot. Back in the day.

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I always thought graphic novels meant they were just graphic,

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you know, just bloody and all that kind of stuff.

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Well you're into graphic novels. They're not like that at all,

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are they.

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No. No, No, graphic means graphic imagery as in comic

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imagery art imagery, uh means painted or graphically created. I

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was looking for that word. I found it. Although some

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of them can be quite quite violent, it can be

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quite bloody, but for the most part, it's more of

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telling the story pictures with some words. And I've got

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I've got my own graphic novel out now with the

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Legends Parallel series, and I've participated in several others, and

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it's a different way of telling a story. And to me,

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when I first started it, I was like I didn't

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realize how different it would be. I was like, I

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just have to tell a story and someone writes a picture.

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And I remember the first artist wrote me back, he goes, dude,

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you have to give us some room to write and

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to do our art because you're just writing everything. And

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I was like, oh, I need to step back. And

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it's kind of this dance where I say something and

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then the artist fills in the next step, and then

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I take the step. And it's really fun to do

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and it's a very different way of looking at a creation.

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So I'm very I'm very honored to have been involved

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in as much many projects as I have been.

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Well, that's really cool. Well, the number one book today

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in twenty eleven was The Help. In the nineteen sixties,

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a writer. She writes a book from the African American

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and maid's point of view on the white families that

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they were working for. Started violl the Davis, Emma Stone

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and Octavia Spencer. Well, well, you were watching Star Trek

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and Night teen sixty nine, the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair.

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It began. It was at a farm near Bethale, New York.

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Now it's supposed to be Hell at a dairy farm

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near Woodstock, New York, but that didn't work out, so

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they just moved to sixty miles. Wow, they didn't change

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the name.

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He's young to tell me, what's that? You see them marching.

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To the fields of gettings Burgs looks like Hampton Johnny

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with a flint clock in the town marching to the

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Ghetting'sburg wall.

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Marching to the ghettings.

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Now that was Richie Haven. He opened up Woodstock, but

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he wasn't supposed to. Now the band's Sweetwater. They were

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supposed to kick it all off, but they were stuck

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in traffic. Richie, he was just hanging around backstage. He

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was just hoping for a chance that let him play.

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Sometime during the three day festival when the organizers yo,

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they retchie get out on stage. We'll tell you when

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the stock now Sweetwater, they did get to go on

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and play when they finally showed up, as Richie's only

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claimed the fame. Yeah, he made a pretty big career

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out of just going around touring as the guy who

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opened up Woodstock.

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That's what kind of music as?

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That's true? What kind of music do you like?

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rock and country, and by the time I was in

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my twenties, I was touring with some industrial and alternative bands,

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punk bands basically, and then I learned some more synthetic stuff.

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So I became very involved in the electronic dance movement

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that was just starting out. The industrial movement actually started

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here in Chicago. So all that music from KMFDM and

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Ministry when they were first starting out and all that

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stuff was happening actually at one recording studio called Chicago Tracks,

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and I was very intricately involved with that and watching

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it all come to be. Pig Face came out of there,

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a whole bunch of people came out of there, and

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then I went on. I started working in the soul

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and R and B world. I worked with James Brown

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for ten years, Ray Charles, a few others, and then

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I opened I didn't open up. I was hired to

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run a Latin and dance label called Ascension for division

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of Warner Brothers Records, part of Warner Brother's distribution family,

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and then I eventually just kind of got out of

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the music business because of getting old and I was tired.

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I didn't want to be on the road anymore. I

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didn't want to be living in hotels, you know. I

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wanted to settle down and to find a corner bar

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with my name on a stool, and that's kind of

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where I'm at. Let's go.

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So, if you were just jumping in your car and

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you went to hit it on the radio, what song

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would you not turn from? What would you just leave on.

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Oh, absolutely, California by doctor.

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Dre Okay, that's pretty cool. All right, we're ready to

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see what happened on August the fifteenth. Throughout history, we're

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going to start in sixteen twenty. The Mayflower. It sets

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out from Southampton, England, on its way to the United States. Well, America.

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Back then we were at the United States jet. Now

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it took him sixty six days across the Atlantic. They

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actually started out with a sister ship. She was called

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the Speedwell. Had a couple of days into that voyage, yeah,

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Speedwell started leaking water. So they transferred all their pilgrims

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over to the Mayflower, and then the Speedwell headed back

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under two pilgrims made it the United America. Now half

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of them they didn't get through that first winter. Eighteen

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forty eight. Waldough Hatchet, he invented the dental chair. No,

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he wasn't even a dentist. Now, we talked about this

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before and how that they had that great, big ceremony

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at Promontory Point in Utah and they nailed the Golden

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Spike in and they were all happy. They completed the

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trans Continental Railway. Well I pinted out then that that

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was all fake news. No, they still had to get

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off the train and cross the Missouri River in a

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boat and get on another train. But it was today.

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In eighteen seventy the first trans continental railroad was actually completed.

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They finished it up out of Strasburg, Colorado. Now, for

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the first time you could actually take a train completely

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across the United States without getting off. Now Strasburg I

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gets not about six miles from US here at cool Media,

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about thirty miles east of Denver. Now this weekend is

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a big celebration at Stratsburg. They got Stratsburg Days. They

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celebrate that big historical event that no one really knows about.

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Do you use many, many of your trains for your

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imagery and your writing?

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Not really. I do use them because well, especially in

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my novels the Brittle Riders and go through the miss

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I see no reason for aviation travel whatsoever. So everything's

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ground based or ship based, partly for the environment and

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partly just for logistics. Airplane travel. Really, when you look

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at it dollar for dollars cent percent, everything that's involved,

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it really doesn't make that much sense. And so he's

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here to two things, just tick them on the ground

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to make them go. So yeah, I don't. I have

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trains in there, some very comfortable ones and when I

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have royalty traveling in them. But uh, they're there.

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That's cool. I think you got some good news coming

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about what happened in the United States today.

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I did, I do?

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Did you want to talk about the Sioux Indians?

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Yeah, sorry, I thought it was something that happened like

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while we were talking. Yeah, back into your good old days.

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The United States gave the Sioux Indian Nation the Black

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Hills in South Dakota as their reservation in the US

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said they would honor the Sioux nation claims that the

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Black Hills were traditional hunting lambs, but the Sioux have

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to stay there, they can't leave now. For eight years,

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the Sioux lived up to their end of the treaty,

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but then in eighteen seventy six, the United States, surprise, surprise,

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said nope, you gotta go. You can't stay here, and

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kick them out and then move them to the southern

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South Dakota on the prairie. And no one's surprised. Here

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gold was found in the Black Hills. Since they couldn't

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mine it with the Sioux there, they just threw the

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Sioux out in nineteen eighty, the United States Supreme Court

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ruled that the US did violate the treaty and had

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to pay the Sioux nation one hundred million dollars. That's

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more than I make in a month, and the Sioux

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have refused to accept that money, as they say the

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Black Hills were never for sale. Back in nineteen eleven,

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which is just a little down the road, Procter and

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gram Campbell started selling Crisco. Now, if you're older, that's

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why your grandma's food tasted so good. No, if you're

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my age, that's why your grandma's food tasted so good.

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But anyway, when you think of really rich guys, you

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probably think of Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg, Gates, blah blah blah,

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the kids at school. But there were nothing in bear

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to JP Morgan, so much so that in nineteen fourteen,

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the United States government was forced to ask JP to

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quit loaning money to countries so they could use it

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to fight World War One, said that it was against

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the US policy of neutrality in the war. And back

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in nineteen thirty one, everyone remembers, says Richard Granton earned

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his lassie, completed the longest canoe journey without a portage.

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That's where you can carry a canoe over eleven months.

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The two wins six and two miles all over the

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Eastern United States, the Great Lakes, Chicago, New Orleans, Miami,

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New York City, and so on into work. The record

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hasn't been broken. But then again, keep in mind there

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weren't a lot of dams back at the time.

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Nineteen thirty nine overrom Poland, that was two weeks before

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they were going to invade the German Air Force. They

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decided to put on a little air show for the

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people in Poland. They were showing off all the German

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airplanes that the Poland started to like release fear about

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Mike coming in there. Well, thirteen dive bombers are putting

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on a show. Crash straight into the ground. No one lived.

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Thet's celebrate.

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Already here a celebrate last.

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Throughout the.

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That was just a coincidence. Happy Birthday India. Let's say

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in nineteen forty seven, India got his independence from Great Britain.

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So to celebrate our independence from Great Britain, we shoot

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out fireworks, we drink beer, drink eight hamburgers and hot dogs.

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I don't know, do you think that people in India

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are going to celebrate like that.

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No, no more dancing involved. Let's blowing things up.

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More dancing, I think kind of like, Yeah, that'd be

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horrified if they actually came over here on the fourth probably. Okay,

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I really want to talk about about your book that

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you're actually trying to get into a movie. I believe

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it's the Brittle Writers trilogy.

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Yeah, the Brittle Writers Book one is actually we're in

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the process of developing it as part of an option deal,

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and right now we're at the point where we're developing

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the characters, what they look like, what they could be like,

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you know, sometimes even a little bit what they move like.

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Because the original concern with the Brittle Riders was that

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the universe that created, or the world I created, was

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so unique that absolutely none of it could involve live actors.

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There could be no humans in the room when this

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thing was put together. And thankfully, I've been working with

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a nice, lovely, lovely young man from practical Effects who

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works for a major company, and this other lady who

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works as a AI specialist doing graphic AI for a

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major company. They've taken me under their wing. They took

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pity on me and we've been going through a character

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by character to see what we could do, what it

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could look like, and we found that a well over

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half of them could be done with just good old

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costumes and then a little bit of CGI, a little

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bit of visual effects to make them look a little

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more lifelike. You know, you see it when you see

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those TV shows with the lady has wings. She's like

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an elf or something like that, or a fairy and

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she's standing there and she's got her little wings. Well,

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those are just regular cloth wings, but with the video effects,

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they can wiggle a little bit and they look like

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they're breathing with the person and it looks very natural.

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But ninety percent of what you're looking at is just

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a practical effect. So that's what we're aiming for it,

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to get as many practical effects, to get as many

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humans as we can in front of the cameras. And

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it's going along nicely. Actually, we're not only doing this

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with the development deal, the option deal. We're also on

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the desk of a major streaming service and we're in

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the hands of a production company, So we got three

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different people that are trying to figure out how to

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if we didn't make this happen if it can really happen.

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And I do know every time people read the book

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they like it. It's like, the worst thing is cann

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happen to me is somebody reads the book and go, no,

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I like it. They may be offended by it, they

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might think I'm insane, but they like the book. They

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like the story. So it helps a lot.

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Well, I said, like even the second printing of it

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still win in awards for that.

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Yeah, right now it's been Let's see if I can

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get them on now. It's the best science fiction novel

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of twenty twenty two for the critters, readers, roll and

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critics is slang for book critics, not the small, slimy

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things that bother you at night. As a winner of

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the twenty twenty five Los Angeles Book Fast Best Dystopian

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Novel Award, it's been nominated for the Global Best Dystopian

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Novel Global Book Awards, which is coming out in September.

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Hopefully I'll be on the list there. I do know,

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I'm in the finals. So the team, Yeah and critics.

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Garrett Dion he's an internationally famous film producer. He liked

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the project so much he wrote the back cover for

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the books. I mean, you buy the book, you flip

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it over. There's Garrick right there. I don't even have

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to make that up. No film producer like your stuff.

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Turn the book over, read it there he is. So

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you know, I like being able to do that. By

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the way, it's like you're not making stuff up to

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turn the book over. But people really like the book.

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They really like the story and really fun. Quick aside,

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we were talking about Happy Birthday in India, and I

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mentioned before I have a fan club in India. When

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Gogri the Myth first got released in India, it got

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released as a theological experiment. In other words, people thought

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I was discussing the Hindu gods as though they the

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Hindu gods were the whole focus of the book, and

466
00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:53.599
not the dystopian nightmare, the death of all humans, all

467
00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:55.400
the rest of the stuff that's actually the focus of

468
00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:57.319
the book. So we had I ended up in a

469
00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:01.680
long online conversation with some Indian scholars saying, no, this

470
00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:04.519
is not a religious treatsy, this is not a historical book.

471
00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:07.440
This is really this is fiction. Look up the big word,

472
00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:09.599
this is fiction. I just made it all up out

473
00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.079
of my head and here's why I did what I did,

474
00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.400
and here's what's going on. And everyone's like, oh, they

475
00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:16.519
got it, and now everyone's cool with me. I'm so,

476
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:18.160
they're not going to burn me at the stake or anything.

477
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:20.119
So we're doing all right. You know, people are learning.

478
00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.440
So did you even know about the Indian gods before

479
00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:22.960
you wrote it?

480
00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:23.480
Oh?

481
00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:26.319
Yeah, yeah. I have friends from all over the world.

482
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.680
And before I met my wife, I dated a nice

483
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.960
Indian girl who was very involved with her culture and

484
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.240
her history. So you know, I got to celebrate a

485
00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:39.440
lot of the holidays with her and learn what they

486
00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:41.559
mean and learn what's going on with them, you know.

487
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:43.599
And there's different people that I've met from my life

488
00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:45.720
that are still friends of mine twenty thirty years later

489
00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:51.480
that you know, they're from India, Pakistan, and I'm blessed

490
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.759
to have a really diverse retinue of friends. So if

491
00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:56.559
I have a question or if I'm concerned about something,

492
00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:58.720
I can go to someone who lives it. I don't

493
00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:02.519
have to, you know, and I've got the Google. Google's moonable.

494
00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.960
But you know, if I have a question about you know,

495
00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.039
this festival or that festival, or how they dressed her,

496
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:10.039
you know, how this person would or would not dress

497
00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:12.480
for this specific occasion. I would just pick up phone

498
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.559
and call and that makes my life so much easier.

499
00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.759
Oh sure, and well, we're gonna step back now. At

500
00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:19.920
the end of the show, we're going to tell you how.

501
00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.960
But you definitely want to read The Brittle Writer Strategy

502
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.720
before it comes out on streaming or in the movie theater.

503
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:28.680
It's a really good I mean, so, when you get

504
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:31.400
really weird, do you run it off your wife? Make

505
00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:32.960
sure you're not going too far overboard.

506
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.200
No, my wife, I think has gotten She's used to

507
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.640
my weirdness. I'll tell you this. This is a true story.

508
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.920
When she and I were first dating, we were sitting

509
00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.279
on the steps of my old apartment or all apartment,

510
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.000
because she moved in with me. But I was telling

511
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.400
her about an argument I had with a character named Slanned.

512
00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:52.920
It's a character in The Brittle Writers, and in the

513
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:56.759
argument Slanned, the character wanted a more prominent place in

514
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.160
the book. I was using him as comedy relief and

515
00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:01.920
in my head, I want her to be more And

516
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.279
when I was done with the argument Flanned one, I

517
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:06.000
ended up rewriting a big trump of the book to

518
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:08.599
make him a bigger character, and I never regretted it,

519
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.000
but yeah, I get uh. So she's used to me

520
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.160
arguing with my imaginary friends and losing, so she's put

521
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:16.039
up with a lot with me.

522
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:18.079
Well that is cool.

523
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:26.279
Joke cooke joked joke. Shag dish shivers day, we gonna pause.

524
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.319
He left, dish shiverfday, we gonna sit potage. He's like

525
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.000
dish shivers day. And you know you don't give up.

526
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.759
You're like fifty Yeah, I do. Actually, all right, let's

527
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.920
he was born in August the fifteenth Well, Napoleon Well,

528
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.400
he was born Napoleon Bona Hart and Corsica, France, in

529
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.799
seventeen sixty nine. After raising hell all over Yurope, he

530
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:47.880
ended up dying in exile in eighteen twenty one at

531
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.279
fifty one years old. So he either died of stomach

532
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:54.119
cancer arsenic poison. So these aren't sure, they're just not telling.

533
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.799
Actress Rose Murray. She was born in Manhattan, New York,

534
00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.640
in nineteen twenty three. She's most known for playing Sally

535
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:02.759
Rogers on The Dick Van Dyke Too. I was a

536
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:04.680
little kid. She actually had success as a singer, and

537
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.240
then she did vaudevielle. This is one of the first

538
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.480
women to do stand up comedy. She married once for

539
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.960
twenty years. Her husband died and they had a daughter, Rose.

540
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:18.200
She died in twenty seventeen at ninety four years old.

541
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:21.240
Tom you know more.

542
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.160
That was Bill Pickney singing for of that Drifters. He

543
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.000
was born in Dalzell, South Carolina, in nineteen twenty five.

544
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.240
He helped formed the Drifters in nineteen fifty three. He left

545
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.440
to go solo in nineteen fifty eight. But I think, well, no,

546
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:45.079
that never works out, especially for him. He'd only sing

547
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.440
lead on two songs for the Drifter, Steamboat and Someday

548
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.200
You'll Want Me to Want You. But he's still in

549
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.559
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member

550
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.839
of the Drifters. He died in two thousand and seven

551
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:54.839
at eighty one years old. So to pick the name

552
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:56.759
of the Drifter, Bill and the other four guys they

553
00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:58.559
all got together wrote down what name they want and

554
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:00.720
they put it in a head One that was drawn

555
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.519
was drifter. Makes sense, But the guy who put it

556
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.599
in he will He was talking about the hummingbird, the Drifter.

557
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:11.559
Ingle Bell, jingle Bell, Jingle Bell, jingle bells ring and

558
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.480
jingle bells ring, no one and no one.

559
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:19.759
Now the jingle.

560
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:27.079
Jingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell Now. Bobby Helms. He

561
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:28.960
was not Jewish, but the guy who wrote the song

562
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.000
was Bobby. He was a pretty devout Christian with your

563
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.319
stories selling skills. Do you ever do any like work

564
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:34.880
with the church.

565
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:38.640
Oh? Yeah, Actually I'm a Sunday well. I was recently

566
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.720
a Sunday school teacher for eight years at our church.

567
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.680
Been involved with youth groups in our neighborhood. I'm kind

568
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.279
of active, you know. I mean, I'm not leading any

569
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:49.200
sermons or anything. But I'm not a I'm not a preacher.

570
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.640
I'm not a minister. I'm just just this person likes

571
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:52.240
to help.

572
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:53.240
Like working with the kids.

573
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.079
I do. I do like where kids are. Honest, man,

574
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:58.240
they're not gonna lie to you when you walk intore like,

575
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.200
mister Bill, that's a horrible haircut. They're not being mean,

576
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.759
They're just letting you know. Man'd get a comb, dude,

577
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:04.319
get a comb.

578
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:06.680
You were out a little late last night, weren't you,

579
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:07.119
mister Bill.

580
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:13.119
We don't discuss that with the four year old. No, no, no, no, no, no, true,

581
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.640
we were talking about something we could make with grape

582
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.319
truth for the Sunday school and I wasn't even paying attention.

583
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.519
I was just like half awake, and I went, yeah,

584
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.359
I just be a lot better with vodka in it.

585
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.279
It was ten o'clock on a Sunday morning with a

586
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.240
room full of kids.

587
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.480
At least Bobby at least vodka didn't never smell so

588
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.720
all right, Bobby House. He was born in Helmsburg, Indiana,

589
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.160
actually in nineteen thirty three. No, it wasn't named after

590
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.319
his family. He was a country singer, but his biggest

591
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.319
hit was the one we play on the Christmas song

592
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:43.640
Jingle Bell Rock Now. It is one of the top

593
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.039
ten Christmas songs of all time, so that makes it

594
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.240
one of the top fifty songs of all time. Some

595
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.480
of his country HiT's are Fraudlene, My Special Angel, just

596
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.160
a Little Lonesome Now. He's in the Rockabilly Hall of Fame.

597
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.119
He had four children from his first wife, four children

598
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.279
from his second wife. He's married his third wife for

599
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:01.200
two months when he died in nineteen ninety seven at

600
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.359
sixty three years old from emphysema. After Deborah Messaying, she

601
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.640
is fifty seven. She was born in Brooklyn, New York

602
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.359
in nineteen sixty eight. Best known for TV, she played

603
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:11.480
Grace on the sitcom Will and Grace. Before that, she

604
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.319
was Stacy on Nedd and Stacy Summer Movies, where she

605
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.319
played Mary, Magdalene and Jesus, and then she was in

606
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.440
the Mothsman Prophecies. Along came Polly wedding Date. She married

607
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:22.559
once for sixteen years and it has a son from it.

608
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.119
So have you always been in Chicago your entire life?

609
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:29.599
Ah, that's not a quick quite Other than when you're

610
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.039
on the record of music, I've pretty much kept an

611
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.720
address in Chicago my entire life. But I've lived on

612
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:39.039
well like five different continents in different countries for extended

613
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.240
period of time, sometimes in some really fancy places, and

614
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:47.440
sometimes like wow, look let's not stay here. But I've

615
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:48.799
traveled quite a bit. Yeah.

616
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:50.039
I know, you said for music you were on the

617
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.640
road all the time. I just wondered. I was kind

618
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.599
of asking if Chicago was always kind of your home base.

619
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.680
It is it is. I mean, at one point I

620
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.839
went just under eighteen months without having a permanent ad dress.

621
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.640
I simply didn't need one. I was just living in buses.

622
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.279
Actor Ben Affley like he's fifty three. He's one of Berkeley, California.

623
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.440
Moved to Massachusetts when he was three. He's won two Oscars,

624
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.000
one for riding Goodwill hunting and the other for acting

625
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:15.720
in Argo. He's best known for Days Or He first

626
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.319
got known for Dazed and Confused. Now he's done a

627
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.200
lot of acting of theirs, but he's actually done a

628
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.839
lot a lot of stuff behind the scenes, directing, producing, writing,

629
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.160
and that kind of thing. His first wife was actors

630
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.279
Jennifer Garner, and they had two dollars and one son,

631
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.720
and he married Jennifer Lopez for three years. Actor Casey Affleck. Yeah,

632
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.160
that's his little brother. What kind of movies when you're

633
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.359
not watching sci fi do you like?

634
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.279
I like action adventure films, but I'm you find me

635
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:44.000
a good like the history of patent or anything involved

636
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.160
with the war, different war efforts throughout history. I will

637
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.839
probably park my butt in front of them. Some docu

638
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.079
dramas I like, I just I get upset when they

639
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.279
started taking a lot of liberties with the truth. Well

640
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.079
that's another subject for another day. But you know they're

641
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.319
like and this person, he was always wonderful. It's like

642
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.920
they show Alexander the Great. They always talking about Alexander

643
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.000
the Great, that he was like this great guy and

644
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.079
he you know, he had different wives and everything, that

645
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:12.039
he had a boyfriend on his whole life. He the

646
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:14.240
one guy who died. That's when he cried, That's when

647
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.440
he mourned. That's when he erected the temple course for

648
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:21.160
his boyfriend. Alexander. He wasn't out hunting women anyway. That

649
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.519
makes me nuts and so on and so far throughout history.

650
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.119
But I do like, I actually like a variety of everythation.

651
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.000
My wife likes comedies and she likes some romances. Neither

652
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.480
one of us are big into romances. We've got ourselves.

653
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.119
We don't need any more romance than that.

654
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:34.960
That's right and.

655
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.920
Thank you. And I don't know. There's a variety of

656
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.440
different stuff I like. If it's well done, I'll just

657
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:44.920
pay attention to it. I will watch it.

658
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.920
Actor Anthony Ederson. He was born in nineteen seventy and Compton, California,

659
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.720
and he's fifty five. He started out doing stand up

660
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.240
but he decided he sucked, so hes any better concentrate

661
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:57.119
on acting. He hit really big on TV on Blackish.

662
00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.960
Then after Blackish, He only did a couple episodes because

663
00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:02.160
he's too busy to being the executive producer of Mixed

664
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:05.119
Dish and Grownish. Some of his movies are barbershop movies,

665
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:09.160
Malibu's Most Wanted Scary Movie, three and four, Transformers. Him

666
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.519
and his wife. They divorced after twenty four years. They

667
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.680
had a son and that daughter. So do you like

668
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.960
like the Transformers and X Men and that kind of stuff.

669
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.279
The first Transformers movie, yes, I liked a lot. That

670
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.599
was just a thrill ride. X Men, Yeah, I do.

671
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.279
I'm actually kind of blessed now to know several people

672
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.759
who were involved in the creation of those movies, so

673
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.680
I get a lot of behind the scenes stuff that's

674
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.680
kind of fun to know. Hugh Jackman is the nicest

675
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.000
guy on the planet. You can learn that from me.

676
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.480
It's fun, you know, being in the industry, even tangentially,

677
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.519
is like you get to know people. You meet the

678
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.960
wardrobe person from Justice League or something like that, and

679
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.480
it's like they just know stuff that other people don't.

680
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.799
So I do watch those kind of movies. I do

681
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:51.200
like them.

682
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.480
So when they make your book in the movie, do

683
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:56.240
you have pictured who you kind of want, what kind

684
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.279
of actors. Your dream actor would be to play the parts.

685
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.119
I was asked to do that, and I put it together,

686
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.039
and I will not curse it by naming anyone on

687
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.799
the radio. I did have some people that I wanted,

688
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.599
but we're pulling pushing it pretty hard. And everyone I

689
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.039
talked to about this, they're like, they don't think we

690
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.279
need multiple name actors. Maybe we find one that they

691
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.400
found Peter Dinkley for a Game of Thrones, you know,

692
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.519
find one name that people know that they've seen at

693
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.640
least more than once, and then build around that. Because

694
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.400
the story is so in depth, you don't have people

695
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.759
to pay attention to that, right.

696
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.960
That's true. And actually a lot of the big name

697
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.240
actors you think about when you have a really good show,

698
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.519
you have a bunch of actors and that nobody heard about,

699
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:43.880
and then all of a sudden, you look back, man,

700
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.319
they had all these big names back then.

701
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.799
Yeah. Yeah, you look at Game of Thrones. It's actually

702
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:49.880
a really good example. It's like all these really famous

703
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.799
people were in it. Nobody knew who these people were.

704
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.480
Jason Momoa was a nobody. Nobody knew who any of

705
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:56.119
these people were when they were in Game of Throne.

706
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.480
It's after they were in Game of Thrones, they became famous.

707
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.200
And if I can make a whole bunch of actors

708
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.640
and actresses famous for being in the Brittle Riders, God

709
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.799
bless him. Ride that pony. Take it, take it as

710
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.079
far as you can take it, you know, make that money,

711
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:08.000
go for it.

712
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:08.799
I like that.

713
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:09.240
I did.

714
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.759
She's done some sci fi actress Natasha Hinstra. She was

715
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.880
born in Springdale, Canada in nineteen seventy four fifty one.

716
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:17.759
Today she had Big in her very first movie, and

717
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:18.799
she's starting Species.

718
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:19.240
Now.

719
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.039
I'm not gonna go to Species too, but we'll go

720
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.359
in the whole nine yards, the whole ten yards Ghost

721
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.680
on Mars. She was married for a year. After that

722
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.920
she divorced, and she had two sons from another boyfriend,

723
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.000
and she married another guy for seven years. What do

724
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:30.920
you think of Species?

725
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.200
I like Species? Actually, those are those movies. I walked

726
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.160
in with absolutely zero expectations, and I walked out saying, Gosh,

727
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.400
I get it. I gotta see it again. I enjoyed it.

728
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:40.599
I really did enjoy it.

729
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.799
Okay, if I've known you're in such a big rock guy,

730
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:50.279
I would have played a longer clip for this guy.

731
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:54.880
Me combingdensus and stumbling out of bus. Follow you through

732
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:59.839
the dark, you kidding off your meds, tattoo and some

733
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:00.279
I'm a.

734
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.680
Main Maybe you know.

735
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:04.519
I'm a sirker for you.

736
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.519
The middle of Jonahs brother is Joe Jonas. He's thirty six.

737
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.320
He was born in Casta, Grand Arizona, in nineteen eighty nine.

738
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.480
Now him and his brothers Kevin and Nick. They released

739
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.719
the first album in two thousand and six. Some of

740
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.519
the biggest hits are burning Up, Sos Sucker. Now Joe

741
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.039
and Nick they split the lead singing duties. They're out

742
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.000
on tour right now until the middle of November. I

743
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.239
think they're gonna be in Chicago in October if you're

744
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:28.320
interested in there. Joey married.

745
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.079
I'm busy that day. I'm sorry, Joe.

746
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.800
He married actress Sophie Turner for five years and they

747
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.280
had two daughters. Thirty five year old actress Jennifer Lawrence.

748
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.079
She was born in Indian Hills, Kentucky, in nineteen ninety.

749
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.559
She's played Mystic in the Xpin movies. She was Catnus

750
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:48.840
in the Hunger Games movies. Nominated for Oscars for Winter's Bone,

751
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:52.480
American Hustle and Joy won Oscar for Silver Linings playbook.

752
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.239
She got married in twenty nineteen and they have two kids.

753
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.119
Oh God, I dropped the question I was gonna ask

754
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.840
for you. Oh. We kind of talked about your website

755
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.800
a little bit earlier. You talked about AI. I know

756
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:06.840
there's a lady like Leslie that you kept credits umber

757
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.280
all your artwork. Man, it's pretty incredible. Is a lot

758
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:09.760
of that AI?

759
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.039
No. No, And by the way, Leslie is a guy.

760
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.360
Oh okay, sorry, sorry, Leslie.

761
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.159
He's married, he has a couple of kids. His daughter

762
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.679
is a fan of my work. So now Leslie is

763
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.719
very much a man. Leslie Taguer, he's out of hungry.

764
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:26.920
He's the artist for all the Legends Parallel stuff. All

765
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:30.519
my comic book stuff is done by human artists. About

766
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.320
eighty percent of the promo for my novels is done

767
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:37.400
by AI. Because quite honestly, I tried working with some

768
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.199
human artists and what I kept getting back was not

769
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:42.239
what I was looking for. I didn't have the kind

770
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.280
of control I wanted, and they kept trying to make

771
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.840
it look like actors and actresses and costumes. I'm like, no,

772
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.000
these are creatures. Developed from my brain that are spewed

773
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.039
forth under the earth and they kill every man, woman

774
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:53.960
and child on the planet. I don't want them to

775
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.159
be cute, you know. Cute is the last thing I

776
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.360
want them to be. So I've been using AI for them.

777
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:01.280
I'm just no looking at it.

778
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:01.440
Man.

779
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.519
Then, whether you like or not, they put a I

780
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.519
can put out some pretty incredible pictures out there.

781
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.480
Yeah, it's a it puts out what you know. In

782
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.079
the seventies, when computers started first coming up, they had

783
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.719
the phrase gigo g i g o garbage and garbage

784
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.639
out and that's what AI is. People who look at

785
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.800
it as a salvation, those people are stupid. It's a tool.

786
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.920
It's a tool that you can use, and right now

787
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:25.719
it's a tool that kind of steals from people. But

788
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.960
they're putting some limits on that and hopefully they can

789
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.880
get get everything back to where it needs to be

790
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.880
because as of like for not for what I do,

791
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.599
it's not stealing from anybody because nobody's doing what I do.

792
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.960
If it's if it's taking anything in from Greek mythology,

793
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.000
which those people have been dead for a while, they're

794
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:45.599
not looking for a royalty check. But but yeah, I mean,

795
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:47.880
AI is a tool and it needs to be treated

796
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:49.880
as such, it needs to be regulated as such, it

797
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:51.400
needs to be built and worked as such.

798
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.159
Well, that's on the AI is kind of one of

799
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:55.360
those things that they've been talking about in science fiction

800
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.360
from way back every where the machines come up and

801
00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:59.159
ruined mankind.

802
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:02.840
Basically, Yeah, the what was the checklist Vokian film robot

803
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.679
robot you know from what I forget the guy's name

804
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.960
is it anyway, But that was like nineteen twenty nine,

805
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.199
you know, when they first used the term robot mechanical

806
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.480
being a cybernetic being and to take the place of mankind.

807
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.400
And there have been hundreds of examples of people doing that.

808
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.800
I did that in the Bridle Writers as kind of

809
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.559
a trope that there was AI and then we killed it,

810
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.199
and so to get around AI because people didn't want

811
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.840
AI anymore, this guy, doctor Edward, he wrote, invented creatures

812
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:34.519
that would do all the work we wanted and be

813
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.800
our sex slaves and be our military and be whatever

814
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.360
we needed them to be. And everyone said, oh, that's okay,

815
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.360
we'll use them then, And that went as well as

816
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:42.440
you would expect, and.

817
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.480
Here we are now, Ye actually you actually do you

818
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.920
it's quite a bit of humor, and it's not like

819
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.320
overt but you got a lot of writer humor in

820
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:52.000
your writings too.

821
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.519
Yeah, people talk about the humor a couple of times.

822
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.159
I have to admit I was talking with somebody that

823
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.480
they thought something was just a hysterical joke, and I

824
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:01.960
almost had to have him explain it to me because

825
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:03.400
I didn't realize there was their joke when I wrote.

826
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.639
It was just way my headwork. But yeah, I try it.

827
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.320
You know, I'm on I'm touching on some really dark themes.

828
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.480
And if you can't step back and get a smile

829
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.119
with it and lap along with what I'm talking about,

830
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:18.559
this is gonna you know, then you're just gonna put

831
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.280
a razor to your wrisk and call it a day.

832
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.199
So I want, you know, I want people to think

833
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.199
about what I'm talking about. I want people to consider

834
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.840
the ramifications to what I'm talking about. I just don't

835
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:28.400
want them to be suicidal when I'm.

836
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.360
Done, exactly that it could put you in a dark

837
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.800
place for the rest of the day. Actually know that,

838
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:35.960
all right, So we definitely want you all to go

839
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.960
get The Brittle Writer's Trilogy and we're you can just

840
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.559
go to Amazon or pretty much in Walmart, any place

841
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.039
to sell the books will happen. But we'll put a

842
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.639
link to his website too. And so what else do

843
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.840
you want people to follow you on your your blog?

844
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.320
Yeah, well, if they go to Bill mcscifi dot com,

845
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.760
they can follow my blog. They can follow everything. But

846
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.480
here's a bonus for your listeners. If you go to

847
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the Bill mc sci fi do blog dot com and

848
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.360
you click on novels where all my novels are at

849
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.000
clever of me. That way, for the brittle riders, you

850
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.960
can download book one for free and nobody will yelly

851
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you and you're not stealing anything. Have at it, read it,

852
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leave a review if you can. But it's yours, good

853
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.920
love and love and care for and enjoying for the

854
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rest of your life. So yeah, go to billmcscifi dot

855
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856
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And you'll be hooked. You'll definitely want to get the

857
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.599
second and the third, that's for sure. Are you have

858
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.239
anything else you want to chat about today?

859
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.280
No? I no, I'm good. There's been a lot of fun.

860
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.039
All right, thank you for being here. Yeah, it has been.

861
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.519
It's been really fun. Okay. Quote of the day, it's

862
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:31.920
gonna come from Will Rogers.

863
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.480
You read much Will when I was growing up. Yeah,

864
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.559
Will Rogers was a part of the family religion.

865
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.320
And he was great. He was totally awesome. Well, he

866
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.360
died to day in a plane crash in nineteen thirty five,

867
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.199
at fifty five years old. Bill said, there are three

868
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.960
kinds of men. The one who learns from reading, the

869
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.599
one who learns from observation, and the rest just have

870
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.760
to pee on the electric fence for themselves to Thank

871
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:55.960
you all for listening today, and thank you, thank you

872
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.320
for being here Bill, and make sure y'all follow us

873
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.599
on however you're listening to Son, make sure you don't

874
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.960
miss us our country and a ground radio artist of

875
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.719
the day. It comes from Shane out in South ben Indiana.

876
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.039
He wants to hear buck Ford and it's on cold beer.

877
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.199
You guys, have an awesome day and we'll talk tomorrow.

878
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:18.880
It all started with a cold beer in the smoky atmosphere,

879
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.280
A few words whispered in enery and then me get

880
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:24.719
on now of here.

881
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:26.440
It was down some.

882
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:31.800
Back road in the back seat of close we been.

883
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:35.559
To heat the wrong most. It all started with the

884
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:36.719
cold beer.

885
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:44.960
I remember that night, the plainest day. I dropped the

886
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:48.280
top on my Chevrolet and I picked her up.

887
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.239
I'm sweet on her. She was cleary of me, and

888
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:57.360
I was all armed.

889
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.239
She was uncleased, did not much.

890
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.880
I all, how am I gone brave.

891
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:08.800
The eyes.

892
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.599
With the girl that's so curty and so nice.

893
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.920
It all started with a cold, fear and smoky atmosphere

894
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.719
of your word, whispered enter.

895
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.880
He can't begin on now here.

896
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:33.000
The dints down some back, rode in the backseat, up close,

897
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:38.320
begin together. Almost year it all started being the cold

898
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:39.119
here