July 1, 2026

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Whether or not your into fantasy sports or sports in generalor, my co-host today, Larry Schechter, has a great book out -The History of Fantasy Sports: And the Stories of the People Who Made It Happen. This is not a text book, it is interesting and facinating stories about the history of fantasy sports. Which also means sports stories. It is a definate must read for the summer - get it - The History of Fantasy Sports: And the Stories of the People Who Made It Happen on Amazon
We also talked:
National Disco day. Entertainment from 2007. President Garfield shot, 1st US coin with a woman on it, 1st Walmart opened, Amelia Earhart disappeared. Todays birthdays - Ken Curtis, Dave Thomas, Polly Holliday, Larry David, Julia Montgomery, Michelle Branch, Ashley Tisdale, Linsay Lohan, Margot Robbie. Ernest Hemingway died.

Intro - God did good - Dianna Corcoran https://www.diannacorcoran.com/
Disco infernal - the Trammps
Never can say goodbye - Gloria Gaynor
Umbrella - Rihanna Jay-Z
Lucky Man - Montgomery Gentry
Birthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/
Riders in the sky - Sons of Pioneers
All you wanted - Michelle Branch
Rumors - Lindsay Lohan
Exit - Thank you for cheatin on me - Dianna Corcoran https://www.diannacorcoran.com/

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Hey, Hello, I am Jeff and welcome to History and

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Factoids about today. Today is July the second. Now, you

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guys know, I love sports and I love history. On

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my coast, he combined the two. Yeah, he has a

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great book out there on the history of fanneries, the

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History of Fantasy Sports. And Larry, why don't you tell

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everybody a little bit about yourself?

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Okay? Well, I.

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Am retired now. I play golf and I play fantasy sports.

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I'm well known as a fantasy sports player. I'm in

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two of the big experts leagues, Labor and how Wars.

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And twenty thirteen, I wrote a book called Winning Fantasy Baseball.

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It was an Amazon bestseller.

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And I've recently come out with a book, as you

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just mentioned, in the History of Fantasy Sports, and the

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subtitle is the Stories of the People who made It happen.

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Yeah, And it's not a textbook out there. It's an

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entertaining book. It's got stories and it's not boring at all.

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Right, that's you know when I got the idea. I

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got the idea for it because, like I said, I

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played fantasy sports for years and I've always wondered, like,

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how did this all happen. You know, it went from

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ideas people had for games years ago to now, let's say,

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worldwide phenomenon with millions and millions of people playing. There's

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more than fifty million people in the US play fantasy sports.

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That's age eighteen and up. That doesn't include all the

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people under ahteen who play. There are two hundred million

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people who play fantasy cricket in India and it's a

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multi billion dollar industry. You know, everybody who's familiar.

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With it now.

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So I've always wondered, like, how did we go from

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these ideas where we are now? Nobody had ever written

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a book about this or told the story.

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So that's why I got the idea.

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And when I began, my idea was, and we'll find

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out who did what when tell the story of how

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this all happened. As I started researching, I started to

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learn all these interesting, fascinating stories of what people had done.

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And so I realized very early on, I can just

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tell the story of what happened and I get the

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job done, but it would also come off as a

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very buoying research paper. But by telling the stories of

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the people, it would make it interesting and an easy

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read and that's what's happening. The reviews are great, people

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say it's easy to read, it's fascinating. Even people who

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never played fantasy sports find it interesting because it's not

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really about fantasy sports so much or how to play.

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It's about the stories of the people and what they

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did well.

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When did it start well, It.

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Depends on how you define the start there were you

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know for me. For me, the definition of fantasy sports

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that you know, the modern day phenomenon, like I just

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described that is games that are based on events that

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have not occurred. So like, if you're doing fantasy football

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this year, you're going to draft the team soon and

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then it's going to all depend on what happens as

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the season unfolds this fall. There have been games in

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the past, like people make word of, like Opera, Strata

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Matic or other games that are based on professional athletes

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but what they did in the past, Like you can

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get a Stratamatic game that's based on what everybody did

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last year or five years ago. So the distinction for

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me with modern fantasy sports is it's based on events

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that haven't occurred yet. But the games like happened Strata

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Maatic and some board games you know, in my opinion,

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were precursors to fantasy sports. And the first chapter of

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the book is about all these precursors. You can even

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go back to the eighteen hundreds. In the eighteen hundreds,

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they came out with games where like you would be

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a board and you'd slide a penny with your finger

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and it would go into a spring activated bat and

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hit the penny into holes on the board for like

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a single double home run. So you know, if you

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wanted to find that as fantasy sports, you know, that

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would be kind of like the first ever fantasy sports game.

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And then it evolved from there.

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That's come a long way, mostly billion dollars two hundred

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million in India. All right, we do a national day.

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Do you know what today's national day is?

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No, I don't.

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Today is National Disco Day. So were you a disco

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guy back in the day?

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My like disco music, Like, I've never been a dancer.

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You know what I was thinking about this, I think

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Americans are too lazy for disco now because if you

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remember back then, you really had to fix yourself up

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if you were going to the disco tech.

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different than disco.

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Now, that's the reason we're celebrating as far as I

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know right well, the reason we're celebrating today. In nineteen

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seventy four, Glory Gaynor, she released the very first disco

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song was never can say goodbye.

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Day.

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I'm not going to put you on the spot or anything.

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history of our For fantasy baseball, do you know, is

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there a single Colorado Rocky that anybody would pick down

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this fantasy football team or baseball team?

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about hitting, there's you know a lot of Rockies are

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good hitters, and you know in that stadium it's an

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advantage to hitters. As far as pictures, you know, people

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like to say, oh, don't take any Colorado Rocket pictures

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because you know the park is so good for hitters.

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But there are skill some exceptions, or some pitchers that

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are useful for fantasy even though they're pitching in Colorado,

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and some of them you might want to put on

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the bench when they're pitching in Colorado and put them

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in your lineup when they're on the road.

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Yeah, I didn't think about that. I mean half the

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games are on the road, so I mean you can

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sit them when they're own.

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well the athletics, it's kind of like the same thing

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that athletics are playing in a triple A park. So

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the hitting murs is you know, crazy girls probably as

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good as Colorado.

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Right, all right, let's see what happened in entertainment on

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July seventh or July second. Let's go back to two

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thousand and seven. Numb one album was Big Dad Daddy

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by Toby Keith. Rihanna and Jay Z had the numb

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one song with umbrella.

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I'm in the Swish Shine to get.

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The I Told you Hobby forever alas friends of the Thumbs,

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to get out of the raining and all down wills

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to have each other you can playing my Umbrella.

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Montgomery Gentry had the number one country song with Lucky Man,

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but I'm I'm a lucky man. God's giving me a

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bruder Fad Got a House and pe Lands running good.

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Taking like the Sai.

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The number one book was Lean Mean thirteen by Jene Ivanovitch.

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The top move was Transformers Now in the War Between

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the Good Autobots and the evil Decepticons. They come to Earth.

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A teenager holds a clue to the Ultimate Power starts

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Shia Labuff, Megan Fox, Josh new hammel Tyrese Gibson. So

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how many how many leagues do you usually play a

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year in, like baseball or football?

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Usually four or five?

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Are you Are your teams really a part or do

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you are you able to usually kind of keep them?

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So you have kind of the same core players.

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Usually it's a lot of similar players, you know, maybe

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half somewhat similar and have somewhat different but you know,

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the form some of the formats are different. Like you know,

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a couple of the baseball leagues I'm in you only

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have American League players and the other leagues you have

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players in both leagues, So obviously those are gonna be quite.

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Different, right, So what got you into fantasy sports In

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the beginning?

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I was driving around Boston one day and I heard

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an ad on the radio for something that sounded interesting,

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and it turned out to be a fantasy baseball league.

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This is this is about nineteen ninety two roughly, So

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I called and I you know, I was interested. I

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joined the baseball league. We did a draft by conference call.

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And that's how I got into it originally. Now, if

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you asked a thousand people how did you get into

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fantasy sports, you probably not. Can hear anybody else ever,

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say because I heard an ad.

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You know, people people get into it mostly mostly it's

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word of mouth. They hear from a you know, from

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a friend or you know, maybe this son D and

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all the somewhere in nine. In nineteen eighty, Dan Oakrint

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started the first like a you know, real modern fantasy

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baseball league, and in nineteen eighty four Bantam Books wanted

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them to publish a book about it. In nineteen eighty four,

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Oakprint published a book about his fantasy baseball league, and

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thousands of people bought that book and started playing fantasy

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baseball because of that book. One of the people who

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bought that book and started playing fantasy baseball was Matthew Berry,

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who is now, you know, like the most well known

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fantasy analyst you know, on TV or you know, anywhere.

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And he was fourteen years old when he bought that

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book and started playing fourteen.

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Yep, the finding career moment, there wasn't it If you

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had the number one choice in the baseball draft, who

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would you pick?

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Well show Heyo Tani is pretty much the consensus number

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one kept these days, although it's kind of odd because

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you know, he's he's a hitter and he's a pitcher.

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So some some leagues you can use him as a

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hitter or a picture. Some leagues they have they let

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you draft two separate shows. Hey Toni's one is a

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picture one as a hitter.

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Oh, that'd be interesting sometimes, I guess of his inn league,

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but you might get him to be kind of complicated.

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My book one of one of the one of the

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quick stories. In my book, there's a there's a you know,

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the book is full of stories of entrepreneurs that started

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different things in the in fantasy sports. I mean, you know,

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originally there was nothing, and people saw the need for

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magazines and started magazines that saw the need for staff services.

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When when computers came out, they realized that you could

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be staffs on a computer.

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And so it's full of these stories of entrepreneurs.

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And there's one one entrepreneurs he's in the book where

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it started a knee service and the guy's dad is

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a huge is now a huge show. Hey o County fan.

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He's ninety two years old. This guy's dad is ninety

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two years old, still plays santasy baseball. He's obsessed with

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sho Heyo County. He stays he's on the East Coast,

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but he stays up late to watch the West Coast

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games for Seal County play.

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He's worth, He's worth one of the pardon I said,

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he's worth staying up for.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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One of the stories you know, sincere since you're neire

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Denbrah mentioned there's a some brothers, the Grogan brothers, in

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about eighty five, I think it was roughly, they started

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playing fantasy football and they realized, you know, there's like

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nowhere to get information for this, and they decided, let's

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start a magazine. So they put together this kind of

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not not real pfessionally done, but somewhat of a magazine.

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They put it together with fantasy football information, and they

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went to Johnny's newsstand in Denver, and they convinced Johnny

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to take ten poplies of this news letter slash magazine.

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And Johnny said, all right, well, I'll call you in

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a couple of weeks and tell you how it did.

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By the time the Grogramers got home, Johnny called and

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said where he sold out? Plea need more poplies.

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the second, let's about seventeen seventy six, the Continent of Congress.

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They voted to adopt the resolution for the Declaration of Independence. See,

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the vote was unanimous except for New York. New York

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had stayed from the vote. They actually didn't vote for

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the Declaration of Independence until it was all over on

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July ninth. But it didn't matter. The Declaration of Independence

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move forward. It was edited by Congress and it'll be

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adopted on July the fourth, seventeen seventy eight, Massachusetts. That's

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a sheeebas spooner. Yeah, she was hung. She was her

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and her she had her boyfriend and two other guys

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kill her husband and throw him down a well. Well

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after that, she was the first woman ever in the

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courts to go through capital punishment in US history. See,

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I mean we're not talking like Salem Witz strous. This

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is the first time a court said no, go ahead

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and kill her. Eighteen forty three in Charleston, South Carolina,

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an alligator fell from the sky. Now, this is how

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the local newspaper described it. A SAVERA thunderstorm rolled through town,

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blinding lightning, hurricane winds, torential rain. No one was injured,

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but an alligator fell from the sky. It landed on

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the corner of Wentworth than Hanson streets. No one saw

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the alligator fall from the sky, but the fact is

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incontestable that it couldn't have gotten there any other way.

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about him, So that showed plainly enough that it must

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have gone through a remarkable experience. Now he's doing fine

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as an alligator can do after flying through the air

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during such a horrendic storm. So, okay, that's you know,

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before the internet, so we know it's true. And you,

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when you wrote the book on the history of sports,

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you had to do a lot of research and where

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do you start from because there really wasn't anything for

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you to go off of.

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Well, when I when I started, I thought it was

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something I could knocked off in a few months, and

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I was completely wrong. It ended up taking eighteen months

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of full time work researching and writing. I interviewed dozens

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and dozens of people. You know, some of my interviews

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would be like three hours long on zoom. I would

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record a zoom call so I could, you know, write

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down the information later. So yeah, it was it was

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just a crazy amount of work. And when I would

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talk to people or research, I would learn different things.

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It would send me down different rabbit holes. Sure, and

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when I when I was doing the book is the

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book has got different chapels. It starts for the peak

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curses fantasy sports since got the invention and spread of

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fantasy football, the invention and spread of fantasy baseball, then

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the newspapers, magazines, and TV radio, and then all kinds

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of different topics leading to the modern day. Modern day

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But for example, when I when I started the topic

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of you know, how to fancy football start and spread?

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There's a guy named Andy Mussolinis who was credited really

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was spreading fantasy football. We Jeff Winkinbot is the guy

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who's invented fantasy football basically. But Andy Mussolimis is a

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guy who's spread it, and I would read article after

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article about Andy Muslimis getting all the information, and now

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you know, it's like I've read twenty articles. I'm reading

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the same information over and over again pretty much. Then

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all of a sudden, I get to, like the twenty

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fifth article or whatever, when I'm wondering why am I

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even looking at more articles, and all of a sudden

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mentioned something they had never been mentioned before. Annie Muslinas

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was a war hero. He was seventeen years old when

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Pearl Harbor happened. He enlisted in the army and they

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sent him behind enemy lines in I think in Greece

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because he spoke Greek and he was involved in sabotaging

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in German operations. They gave him a cyanide pill so

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if he ever got caught, he could kill himself. And

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when he when he enlisted, the recruiter said, ninety seven

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percent of you they were not going to make it

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back alive.

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He recruited anyway, so he was he was a World

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War hero. He got with the Medal of Honor. He

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was later.

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Then those stories are it's awesome that he loved hearing

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that and how somebody like that thing goes back and

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then it's like the basically the father of fantasy football.

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Yeah, well what happened Bill, Bill Lincolnback. This goes back

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to the Bill Lincoln Back was a part a ten

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percent owner of the Oakland Raiders and in the late

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nineteen fifties he had a primitive fantasy game for golf

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and for baseball, and he was telling one of the

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sports writers out there about it, and the guy said,

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why don't we do this for football, And that's how

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the first fantasy football league ended up happening. So they

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started a fantasy football league, and this is now in

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the early sixties, and Mussolinos was one of the guys

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in the first fantasy football league and he owned a

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bar in Oakland, and after a couple of years being

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in the league, he decided it would be a good

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idea for business and for fun to make fantasy football available.

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To his patrons.

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So he did and at his bar they started a

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fantasy football league and a bunch of people played and

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loved it, and the next year they expanded the second league,

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and then a third league, and then around the four

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far show there was a women's only league because women

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wanted to play and the men did not want the

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women in their league. So there was now a women's

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only league and people would come to the you know,

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and it spread from there. It spread word of mouth,

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and people would come to the bar from out of town.

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They'd see this thing. They'd asked, you know, what is this?

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And you know, before too long, bars from around the

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country were calling and he Mussolina's Park to ask, you know,

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what is this thing?

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How do you play it? What are the rules?

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And that's how it really started to spread.

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Well, that is really cool. Now this is not cool.

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This guy named Charles Getell. Now he claimed that he

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supported James Garfield when he ran for president of the

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United States. Well, after Garfield was worn in as a president,

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Charles he decided he wanted a job in Garfield's cabinet

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or is an ambassador, you know, for in foreign country

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or any high level local government vision. Well, he didn't

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get any job. See, Garfield had never heard of the guy.

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So today, in eighteen eighty one, at a train station

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in wash in DC, Gatau walked up and shot Garfield. Yeah,

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it was mad and fed up that he didn't get

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a job Garfield. He ended up dying seventy nine days

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later from the bullet one. Now Gatau he was hung

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for it. Now when he said that he campaigned for Garfield,

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it'd be the equivalent if you just went out and

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donated five dollars to a candidate and put a sign

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in the yard. So it's not like he was a

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hard core reporter or anything like that. Nineteen oh one,

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Butch Cassady and the Sundance Kid and there gained the

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Wild Bunch robbed the train near Wagner, Montana. Got away

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with over forty one thousand dollars. It'd be about one

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and a half million today. That was their last train robbery. Yeah,

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see that heat was on after that. I mean they

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were already being chased, but now they couldn't do anything.

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the Wild Bunch just went their separate ways Soday. In

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nineteen thirty seven, Amelia harre Art and Fred Noonan disappeared

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when they were trying to fly aground the world. Yeah,

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they were over the Pacific Ocean now noon and they

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declared him dead one year later. Amelia, they waited two

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years before they declared her dead. Nineteen sixty two, Sam

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Welton opened up the first Walmart in Rogers, Arkansas. Now

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the building's still there, but it's a gift shop.

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It's not really that big. You wouldn't think of it

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as a Walmart. Nineteen seventy nine, for the first time

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in the United States, they put a woman on a coin.

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That's when they made that Susan B. Anthony dollar. Yeah,

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it didn't go over too well in one it was

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too small, so it kind of looked like a quarter

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and Susan B. Anthony's the way that came out. Sem

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looked more like Benjamin Franklin, so you couldn't even tell

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it was a woman. In twenty twenty two, they figured

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out the earliest they know when people were actually doing opium.

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They found it, like I guess it'd be an opium

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dim they found when they dated back to fourteen hundred BC.

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It was over in Israel. So now they have fantasy.

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Like you said, there's two hundred million people who do

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cricket over in India. There's fantasy about everything though, correct. Yeah,

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how do you do like.

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Fantasy football?

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You know, baseball, basketball, hockey, You've got fantasy I did arrive, curling,

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gas fishing, you know everything.

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In fact, I'll give you.

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Find it here, you know, waight forwarding, Formula one, alpine skiing, Nascar.

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I compile the list for the book as I was

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writing the book, researching. Every time I heard of a

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new fantasy sport, I would I would jot it down

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in the book. I showed, like the whole list. There's

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more than fifty different types of fantasy sports that people play.

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There's even there's even fantasy Congress. This is where contestants

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picked legislatures in the US House or Senate and to

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get points if someone sponsors a bill, passes a bill,

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speaks on the floor, and other activities. And here's a

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good one. You get bonus points if your remember votes

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against the majority of his own party.

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Well, not many.

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People.

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It's not a real pot, it's not a real popular

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you know, with millions of people playing, but it is

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what it is true and the biggest, the biggest group

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of people that played this are students in high school

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civics Civics classes.

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I believe that couldn't be following it a lot more too.

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Yeah, I mean it's a good way, you know, it's

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a good way to have fun and learn about, you know,

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how Congress works and everything.

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You know, that's actually a really good way to see

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how Congress works, to be honest, I think it really

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kind of exposes everything. Especially you know that not many

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people get bonus points sadly nowadays against your party.

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Well, yeah, I mean there's you know, there are a

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couple of people that would be good for that, Like

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Fetterman would be a good tip for that. Yeah, the

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guy it's like a nasty or somebody that keeps shorting

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and he's the Republican to keep shorting from.

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Yeah, I think Fetterman would probably be the number one

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draft pick on that one.

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Yeah, but you also got a sponsor bills and stuff

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like that, so I don't I'm not sure how often

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he does that.

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That's true, but I don't know.

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So that if I was a high school civient stadent,

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I'd probably be.

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Up on all this stuff exactly.

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So, Like, I mean, it gives you, It.

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Gives you motivation, and it gives you motivation to learn,

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Like if you if you're in a contest like this,

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it gives me motivation to learn. Fact, it's like you know,

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it reminds me going back to that very first fancy

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football league that I mentioned. Winkenbach was a part owner

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of the Raiders, and a lot of the people in

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the first fancy football leagues were journalists who covered the Raiders,

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And the guy in charge of that department said that

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his his journalists, you know, were getting better because they

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would start doing more research about the Raiders in the

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NFL because they wanted to help the fantasy football teams.

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Yeah, that makes absolute sense. So anything like baseball, I mean,

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if you joined the league and you were just kind

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of a just I'll follow it, you want to know,

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so you're going to educate yourself and everything. And that'd

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be the same with football or congress or baths.

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Fishing, Yeah, and back you know, back then it was

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really hard to get information. I mean now it's you know,

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a piece of cake to go on the area, I think,

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get all kinds of information. But back then there's very

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little information about you know, football teams or baseball teams,

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whoever sport you were doing. So you know, some people

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would go to the news stand every Sunday and buy

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up every out of town on sports page and read

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it looking for any kind of useful fantasy information.

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So how often do you win that you're the expert?

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Well, I mean, I'm good at fantasy sports. I went

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to Paramount. You know, I'm now an expert on fantasy

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sports history, which has nothing to do with playing or

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winning winning competitions.

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00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.440
Now, the olders I was asking, is that we did

469
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:01.960
last year? We did it it just a family one

470
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.039
fantasy football. It was from all our my cousins all

471
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.960
around the country and all that kind of stuff. One country.

472
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.839
My one cousin who has no idea anything about football.

473
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.039
I think her husband told her who to pick. She

474
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.279
ended up winning the whole thing, and she didn't know

475
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:17.440
anything about football.

476
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.799
Yeah, sometimes it was better to be lucky.

477
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.799
Than good, exactly. All right, Let's see who was born

478
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:30.640
on July this second? An old cowboy one riding one

479
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:32.119
dark and windy.

480
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:35.720
Upon a ridge.

481
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:41.640
He rested us. He went along his way, one loll

482
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.400
and on some mighty herd of red eye calls he

483
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.480
saw blowing through the ragged stuff.

484
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:53.000
That was Kim Curtis singing for the Sons of the Pioneers.

485
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.519
Kenny's a lot better known as an actor. He played

486
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:57.559
on TV. He played Festus on gun Smoke for three

487
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.279
hundred and four episodes. Kenny was born in the Mark,

488
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.359
Colorado in nineteen sixteen. Started out singing for the Tommy

489
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.200
Dorsey Band. Now he replaced Frank Sinatra when Frank Win

490
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.160
solo Ken. He was in over fifty movies, pretty much

491
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.079
all in westerns. He married his third wife in nineteen

492
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.920
sixty six help raise her two kids. He died from

493
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.079
a heart attack in his sleep in nineteen ninety one

494
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.680
and seventy four years old. Now as Ashes, they were

495
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.720
scheduled over the Colorado Flatlands. Yeah, Lamar where he grew up.

496
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.640
That's in the southeastern Colorado, so it's all prairie. Restaurant

497
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.359
stud Dave Thomas. He was born in Atlantic City in

498
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.440
New Jersey in nineteen thirty two. He was adopted when

499
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.319
he was about six weeks old by the Thomases. Davey

500
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:37.599
started out working side by side with Colonel Sanders at

501
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.160
Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yeah, Davey's the one who came up

502
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.279
with there are multi colored boxes and awnings and all

503
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:46.119
that kind of stuff that identified the KFC restaurants back then. Well,

504
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.680
Colonel Sanders sold out, so Dave opened up his own restaurant. Yep,

505
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.599
Wendy's Hamburgers opened the first Windy's in Columbus, Ohio in

506
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.680
nineteen sixty nine. Now, not only did he come up

507
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:58.000
with the square burger, he also created the first drive through.

508
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:01.279
Then he was in over eight hundred Winnies commercials Now, Dave,

509
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:02.920
he dropped out of high school when he was fifteen

510
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.000
years old. Yeah, he always said it was the stupidest

511
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.000
thing he ever did. So in nineteen ninety three, super

512
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.839
rich and sixty one years old, Dave went and got

513
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.319
his ged. He married and had four daughters and one son.

514
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.279
He died in two thousand and two from cancer the

515
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:17.960
Intestine and sixty nine years old.

516
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.480
Tell me now, now there's one more time.

517
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.079
That was actress Polly Holiday from the sitcom Alice. She

518
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.599
played flu Yeah, I kiss my grits was a pretty

519
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.880
big catch phrase back in the seventies. Polly She was

520
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.000
born in Jasper, Alabama, in nineteen thirty seven. She died

521
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.319
just last September at eighty eight years old. Bigger movie

522
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.680
was Grimlins. She actually won a bunch of awards for it.

523
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.960
She has also and all the President's Men, Missus Doubtfire,

524
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.240
the Parent Trap. She acted from nineteen sixty three until

525
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.359
she was hired in twenty ten. Yeah, she just had enough.

526
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.960
So do you still have? Are you still Red Sox

527
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.279
fan then, even though you're in Florida now?

528
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.799
Yeah, I'm a uh, mostly of Boston sports. Then I

529
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.799
went to college at Boston University and lived and lived

530
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.079
there for several years after that.

531
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.759
So you got that Socks and the Patriots and the Celtics.

532
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:14.680
Yeah, exactly.

533
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:17.640
I was a seasons ticket holder for the Red Sox

534
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.319
the last three years before I moved away.

535
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.200
Probably maybe a little tough to move, huh, except for

536
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:23.599
the winner.

537
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.839
Well, I actually at the time, I actually moved back

538
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.920
to I'm from Schenectady, New York. And then after I

539
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.799
went to Boston University, I stayed in Boston for about

540
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.920
fifteen years or so, and I actually moved back to

541
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.240
the Schenectady.

542
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.640
Area for a while. Okay, and I moved to Florida

543
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.279
about ken years ago. Yeah.

544
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.160
Finway Park, that's definitely on my head. Yeah it was,

545
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.359
It's on my bucket list. I said, Finway Park's definitely

546
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:51.920
on my bucket list. I kind of went, I really

547
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:52.400
want to see that.

548
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:54.920
Yeah, you got to say it.

549
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.400
Comedian actor, writer, TV producer Larry David. He said he

550
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.319
was born in Sheep Said Bay, New York, in nineteen

551
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.839
forty seven. That's that neighborhood in Brooklyn. Larry started out

552
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.799
as a stand up comedian. Then he teamed up by

553
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.519
another stand up comedian, Jerry Seinfeld. They co created the

554
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.039
TV show Seinfeld Now. After Seinfeld thended, Larry started his

555
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.960
own TV show, Curb Your Enthusiasm, ran from two thousand

556
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.000
to twenty twenty four. Larry had two daughters from his

557
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:23.799
first wife, married his second wife in twenty twenty. Actress

558
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.880
Julia Montgomery sixty six. She was born in Kansas City, Missouri,

559
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.640
in nineteen sixty grew up in New Jersey. She started

560
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.160
out on the soap opera One Life to Live, but

561
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.359
then she had big playing Betty Childs in the movie

562
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.759
Revenge of the Nerds. Yeah, she was out hot blind

563
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:39.279
who gave all the nerds how a shot when they

564
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.559
saw that she hooked up with Lewis. She was also

565
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:43.960
in Revenge of the Nerds three and four. She married

566
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.400
nineteen sixty six and they have two children now. She

567
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.319
went to the junior high and high school with Jason Alexander. Yeah,

568
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.079
from Seinfeld. Now they did act together in place throughout

569
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.559
all school Now Revenge of the Nerds they were It

570
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.200
took place at Adams College, was actually filmed at the

571
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:22.680
University of as Owner. She is Michelle Branch and she

572
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.039
has forty three today. She's born a Sodon, Arizona. In

573
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.960
nineteen eighty three, she want to Grammy with Santana for

574
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.880
the song Game of Love. Some of her solo hits

575
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.680
are All You Ever Wanted? Are You Happy Now? Everywhere?

576
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.119
Two thousand and five, she teamed up with Jessica Harp

577
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.480
and they formed the Comedy or the Country duo. The

578
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.680
records had pretty good success, but now Michelle she likes

579
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.200
being solo in dooing pop. She had a daughter from

580
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.640
her first husband, married his second husband in twenty nineteen

581
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.920
and they have a son and a daughter. Actress Ashley

582
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.759
Dizdeal's forty one. She's born in Monmouth County, New Jersey.

583
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.400
In nineteen eighty five. She first got known on the

584
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.599
TV show Sweet Life with Zach and Cody. Then she

585
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.640
had big in the high school musical movies So You

586
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.759
Also Started and Scary Movie Five. Actually. She married in

587
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.480
twenty fourteen and they have two daughters. You said you

588
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.480
love playing golf, Florida is the right place to do it.

589
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:11.599
How do they do fantasy golf?

590
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.400
Yeah, Florida is the right place to do it. Except

591
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.079
the day like today, it s feels like one hundred

592
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.839
and five. That's true, but it's going to be like

593
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:28.039
that until September. Fantasy golf is great, you know, the

594
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:35.000
and especially like the daily fantasy sports like Draft Kings

595
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:39.240
and Fabula, which everybody's heard of. They're one of the

596
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.720
one of the reasons fantasy golf is popular because a

597
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.759
lot of people like to play with their fantasy golf contests.

598
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.559
So is Macerory probably the number one twice right now?

599
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:51.960
Well, it depends.

600
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.920
And in sports like football and baseball, you typically have

601
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.240
a draft where you're going to take the number one pick.

602
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.279
Like I said, you know, Shoo Time is probably the

603
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.240
number one pick for baseball, and for football you got

604
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.400
someone like Jamior Gibbams, Vision Robinson and Jamar Chase, you know,

605
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.119
might be someone like that's the number one pick. But

606
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:16.759
there's also a format for fantasy sports called a salary cap,

607
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.519
where everybody is a sign of salary and you take

608
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.559
a roster and you have and fit under the salary cap.

609
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.880
So in a format like that, someone like Rory Machilroy

610
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:33.240
or shy Akani or somebody, they're they're great players obviously,

611
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.400
but they have a very high salary, so they're not

612
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.839
necessarily the best peck. It depends how the salary compares

613
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:42.200
to other people. And in fantasy golf, you know, if

614
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.200
you have a if you have a format where it's

615
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:48.839
like a draft, you know, Scotty Scheffler, Roy Maunclroy, probably

616
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:53.000
you top two picks. But a lot of golf, especially

617
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:56.519
like the draftkangs with FanDuel, the salary cap so if

618
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.319
you want someone like Scottie Scheffler, Roy mai Roy, the

619
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.839
salary extremely high, so they're not necessarily the best step.

620
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.839
So do you think the daily you know, DraftKings and

621
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.359
then do you think they're great for sports or do

622
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.559
you think they kind of like take the loyalty out

623
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.199
of it where people are just more concerned about the

624
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:12.599
individual than the actual sport.

625
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:18.039
Well, that question is actually not just about Draft Kings

626
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.960
and FanDuel. That question is a question that people have

627
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.199
had about fantasy sports. I was since fantasy sports started,

628
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.679
just goes way back. Like I mentioned, Dan Oakrant started

629
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:33.280
the first real fantasy baseball.

630
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:34.239
League in nineteen eighty.

631
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.239
And the thing is a lot of people had kind

632
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.440
of primitive versions of fantasy baseball and other fantasy sports

633
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.440
going back before nineteen eighty.

634
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.760
But what was different about Oakraan. First of all, Oakran came.

635
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.320
Up with a game it was kind of like chess

636
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.199
compared to checkers, So his fancy baseball game was really

637
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.559
really advanced. But the other thing that made the big

638
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:02.519
difference is Opraan was a writer. And the people that

639
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.599
he got into his first league, they were all writers

640
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.920
editors for me in the New York City area for

641
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:11.440
magazines and book publishers and everything. So because because these

642
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.320
guys were all on media, they got publicity for their

643
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.280
league and then they got a book deal, and that's

644
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.400
why it became really well known. And when by by

645
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:26.480
like eighty one, there were fantasy baseball leagues and lots

646
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:31.760
of press boxes around Major League Baseball and at that time,

647
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.760
you know, during the during the eighties, it was kind

648
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.760
of a divide a lot of like Major League baseball

649
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.079
writers and people that you know involved in baseball, a

650
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.320
lot of them looked at fantasy baseball. Is hey, this

651
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.719
is really interesting and a fun thing to do. And

652
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.239
then you know, in other section of people were like,

653
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:51.360
this is terrible for the game. It's going to ruin

654
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.559
the game because, as you just said, people are going

655
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.920
to root for their players rather than than their teams. So,

656
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.239
you know, it was like, it's kind of like now

657
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.519
you've got Democrats and Republicans. She thinks completely differently. It

658
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.480
was like you know a lot of the baseball people

659
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.159
back then, which she thinks completely differently. You know, one

660
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.280
side like, oh, this is great and fun and let's

661
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:12.519
do it, and then other people this is ruining the game.

662
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:18.000
Yeah, that's true. All right, let's go with actress Lindsay Lohan.

663
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:21.320
Clutching media.

664
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.199
You're probably gonna right in the city, the little State Spring.

665
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:29.159
Can you please respect proud the city? Yeah? You just

666
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.400
things I wanna do, wanna be.

667
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.239
I don't understand money. Don't you want to bring means out?

668
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:46.079
The only Lindsay's forty today. She was born in the Bronx,

669
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.360
New York in nineteen eighty six. She got her first

670
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.159
modeling contract when she was three years old. She was

671
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.239
on the soap opera Another World at ten. Then she

672
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.880
hit big in the movie the Parent Draft, Freaky Friday,

673
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.360
Mean Girls, herd be fully loaded Freaky Friday too. That

674
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.719
was last year. Now, her life looked like a total

675
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:04.519
train wreck. So in twenty fourteen she just moved to Dubai.

676
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.159
She was over there. She met a guy. They got

677
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.199
married in twenty twenty two and they have a son.

678
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.119
And it sounds like they're all doing good. Sounds like

679
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:15.079
she's strained everything out. Actress Margot Robbie. She was born

680
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.079
in golf gold Coach, Australia in nineteen ninety's thirty six

681
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.679
today now. After doing Australian TV, she came to the

682
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.760
United States in twenty eleven The Wolf of Wall Street.

683
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:27.320
Once upon a time in Hollywood, she did some suicide

684
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.239
Squad movies and of course Barbie or some of her

685
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.840
biggest movies. She's nominy for Oscars for Itania and Bombshell.

686
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.360
She got married in twenty sixteen and they have a son.

687
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.599
The World Cup going on. Is there fantasy leagues for that?

688
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.199
There's fantasy soccer. Fantasy soccer is very big in Europe

689
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:46.960
and South America.

690
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.760
They probably the dailies are probably doing fantasy a lot

691
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.280
for it though. For the Cup.

692
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:58.239
Yeah, anything that has statistics that you can keep track of.

693
00:37:58.400 --> 00:37:59.840
You can do fantasy or sports for.

694
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.239
Yeah, and I have no idea how I don't know

695
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.320
soccer well I can't even comment. But it isn't you know,

696
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.280
because you think about like basketball or football or anything.

697
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.639
You know, Hey, they scored a touchdown and then well, no,

698
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.440
it scores a goal. It's kind of hard. It seems

699
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.239
like you do fantasy.

700
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.239
Well, like you know, in hockey you can you get

701
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.039
you know, a category points if you score a goal

702
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.199
or if you get an assist, and goaltenders get points

703
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.480
for saving shots or loose points or giving up given

704
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:33.039
up shots.

705
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:39.280
Well, that book just sounds absolutely fascinating. Not only education,

706
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.679
but I love those stories. And there you had to,

707
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.119
like you said, eighteen months. It took them. You got

708
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a lot of stories out on.

709
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Yeah.

710
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I mean, it's like one after another.

711
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You got.

712
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Uh. There was a women's group called women as Fantasy Sports.

713
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There's a guy, a guy who was on his honeymoon

714
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at a hotel in New York City in the World

715
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Trade Center. He's in a hotel in the World Trade

716
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Center on his honeymoon at nine to eleven, and his

717
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story of how he and his wife got out of

718
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the hotel and survived on eleven is really amazing. And

719
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it's in the book not just because it's a stasscinating story.

720
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It's in the book because that event, as it turns out,

721
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directly led to how he got involved in fantasy sports

722
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and now was very big in the fantasy sports industry.

723
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Yeah, those are the kind of stories you just love

724
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to read about it. I mean, it's pretty fascinating. And

725
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they can get the book everywhere, correct, Barnes and Noble, Amazon.

726
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.599
Yeah, it's available everywhere online.

727
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Some bookstores have it, but they don't have it. They

728
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have it online.

729
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Amazon is a good place to get it because if

730
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you go to Amazon, look at the history of Fantasy Sports,

731
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Hilarry Scheckter, you'll see all the reviews. The reviews are great.

732
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Is there'd be more details about what's in the book.

733
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And in today's show notes, we'll actually have a link

734
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to his Amazon page, so you can just click on

735
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it and go over and get your book. Bilari, thank

736
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you for being here today. It was really interesting.

737
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All right, thanks for having me. All right.

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A quote of the day, this is a pretty good one,

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comes from Ernest Hemmingway. He committed suicide Today in nineteen

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sixty one and sixty one years old, Ernest says, always

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do sober what you said you would do when you

742
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were drunk. I think that's pretty good about to keep

743
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your mouth shut, wouldn't you. Our country underground radio artists

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to Day comes from Missyatt and Rhode Island. She wants

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to hear a Diana Corkoran song, thank you for cheating

746
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on me. You guys have an awesome day and we'll

747
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talk tomorrow.

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tourney and to do a broken town Wi stallion my

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crying annual nying, and you'll constantin y and yeah le

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DIXI and all the sho ail.

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Actually do me. I do crazy things and I don't

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against care. I'm seen behind the outrun freeze.

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Thank you frichee on me.