Nov 18-ADHD, Mickey Mouse, Kevin Nealon. Kim Wilde, Owen Wilson, Calvin & Hobbs, Teddy Bears

0:19 Welcome to history and factor is about today. I am Jeff. Now today's show is really interesting and it might help you are someone that you know a lot out. See, we're going to talk all about ADHD, so see if you have it or not, or if someone you know or love has it. So we brought in an ADHD guru, Steve. Why don't you introduce yourself. Hey, there, Jeff, great to be here. How my name is Steve August. I'm talking to you from Portland, Oregon. We're having a lovely autumn. And yeah, so my story is that I'm a lifelong entrepreneur and it turned out that I also had ADHD my whole life, but didn't really find out until I was fifty four years old. And there's a lot of a lot of attention on it right now, I mean partly because our current social media driven, algorithm driven society makes everybody feel a bit ADHD.

1:09 But it really is interesting. The more I learned about it and understood how it worked in the different ways that it works, the more I understood myself. As somebody I said the other day, it's like getting the It was like getting the blueprints to the house I lived in. My whole life. And for those of you who may not be familiar with what ADHD means, it's attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder. And what you should probably know about that is that it's not a very helpful name for what they term a disorder, and it's really just a way that a brain brains work a little differently. And now the classic of the classic vision or the visual of a ADHD person is like a young kid usually avoid bouncing off the walls and not being able to pay attention to anything or sit still. But really what it is is it's not so much an attention deficit.

2:05 It's act almost like a surplus. Is that our brains are paying attention to a lot of things, and we have a challenge of putting our focus where we want it to be when we want it to be. So it's not really a deficit. It's more of an executive function type of thing. So, and what happens is for a lot of folks is that we ADHD brains tend to be often really good at at ideating and creating and learning because it's very dopamine driven. So they've ascribed ADHD brains to having lower levels of two important transmitters dopamine and nore epinephrine, and it just changes a bit of how our brain kind of works. And so and what happens is like the part of our brains that are really good at like paying attention thing and ideating and learning and knowing, and we get a lot of dopamine out of novelty. And these types of things are couple with the part of our brain that is the executive function, part of the brain that helps us organize and prioritize and start and not get distracted. Like that part of our brain is less powerful. So as doctor Hallowell, who wrote the book ADHD two point oho goes describe it, it's like having a Ferrari brain with bicycle breaks. And so what happens is is for especially for a lot of adults, is that we get into the situation where we know a lot, and we have a lot of skills, and we have a lot of things that we have to offer, and yet we have a hard time actually

3:36 doing those things and making those things happen. And that creates, you know, a really can be very challenging mentally. And so what I do is help people, especially specifically entrepreneurs, people running businesses because ADHD brains tend to want to often start businesses or feel like they've got so much creativity and have a struggle working in a very rigid, routine environment that they often do start businesses. And so they're really good at parts of it in terms of being able to come up with ideas and and and be creative, but the execution side of things becomes a challenge, and so I've created systems and communities to help people do that. So I have a course called Your Weekly OS that helps people have a really amazing week in making progress with ADHD and making the things happen they want to have happen. And then I have a program called ADHD Entrepreneur Accelerator, which is a community specifically for ADHD entrepreneurs and it's a great group of people who are ADHD brands and can be exactly who they are and make and we work with each other and support each other and create an amazing progress and actually make all those brilliant ideas and things and schemes that we come up with happen. So that's uh, yeah, that's the that's my story, and I'm really happy to be here.

4:58 Cool. So adult DHD. Do you have it the entire time and you just don't get it till later or does it develop later on in life. No, generally, it's there the whole time, right, it's genetic. It's passed genetically. And a lot of adults get diagnosed because their kid has it and then they go in and watch they see the diagnostic or hear the diagnostic the kids going through and they're like, wait, I do that. I have that? And what's interesting is that, you know, I was never hyper as a kid, and so that was something that I learned is that hyperactivity isn't always part of the deal. And there's like like three types that they describe. There's the there is hyperactive ADHD, and there's in a tent of IDEOHD. These are people who are more like daydreamers and spinners in their in their mind and that was definitely me. And then there's people who are combined to have both both types. And what happens, uh, And what happened for me is like as we go through our adult life, if we haven't been diagnosed, but we are having it work actually paying an ADHD tax the whole time that things are taking us harder, taking us longer.

6:04 We have to work harder to make certain things happen to focus, and especially as we age, like early in our lives when we're in twenties and thirties and in our forties where we have energy to like to kind of like grind through. But as we age sometimes it just sort of drops. And especially for women who hit perimenopause and you know, post post child, having children and menopause and just hormonal changes like those things affect executive function. So it's really more of an executive function the type of thing. But it's not something that generally develops over time, something that's been in the whole time and you've just learned to compensate over it until a point where you're like, oh, I run out of gas and that burnout and I can't compensate anymore. So and that's when you know, getting a diagnosis and you know there's there are medications that can work, and some people use medications to good effect and some people don't and to good effect. And it really becomes this this way of thinking of understanding, like I look to think of it, is it just a different brain type. We need all types of brains to make the world go around, and an ADHD brain type has some really amazing strengths and it has some really interesting challenges. Just like anything else in life, we work with a you know, take advantage of the strengths and and mitigate the challenges to get where we want to go.

7:25 Well, that is really interesting. I've got a lot of questions now coming up. First, do you know what we're going to celebrate today? Hmm? I think it's a really good fall holiday. I bet, I think so. Oh we're going do you have a apple side? Yesterday is National Apple Ciderday. An apple cider fan. A lot of apples, but it's a very seasonal like kind of like like if you ask me in in July fourth like I don't want you. I don't own apple cider with my fireworks, but I do want to unify with with my Halloween candy.

8:13 There you go. Now, apple cider. It goes way back. It goes back to about three thousand BC. It was actually created better celts over in England. Now, the only apples they had back there in England they were crab apples. No, not the best, so it was pretty bitter. But then in fifty five BC, the Romans they invented England. Now they kind of liked that apple cider, but they said those crab apples had to go. So the Romans started bringing in their own apple trees. So the good thing was that apple cider was a lot better. The bad thing, Oh, if they're planting trees, they ain't leaving your country. Yeah, well it's a you know, another another thing. And you know, if you recall money Python's Life of Brian where there's that that that moment where they're saying, what have the Romans ever done for us? And I think we have to add apple cider there you do that list.

8:59 Now it's a lot better. Yeah, okay, now not the hard cider. Okay, but you're right on your apple sider. It's actually pretty healthy for you. Yeah imagine. So yeah, I think it's so flavorful. It just it just it just really makes you think about fall and and uh that season and the comfort of it. Love it. Yeah, it's just like you said, there's a comforting kind of brings comfort to you and everything. So I don't know if anybody out there has a little girl or a little girls at home, but day is also a National Princess Day too. Wow, Hey, instead of having tea, I guess you can serve apple ciders today. Yeah, that that you could. You could merge the holidays and uh, you know, just up the up your observation game so you can have your your your princess apple cider party.

9:43 All right, let's see it going on an entertainment on November the eighteenth. Let's back in nineteen eighty five. The number one album was the Miami Vice soundtracked Starship at the number one song with We Built This City. Gary Morris had the number one country song with I'll Never Stop Loving You. I'm not a Memphis on a fast moving dreams common now some trump didding Western the fast Lane, but I'll never stopping. The number one book was The Mammoth Hunters by Gen m I top movie list King Solomon's mind. That's where Richard Chamberlain he hooks up with Sharon Stone and they try and find her father in the wilds of nineteen hundreds Africa. Okay, now, Steve, you actually have a test that we can take, and I actually went on there. So if you're wondering, if you know, do I have ahd adhd or do I have symptoms or you know, like that he gives you a free test you can take to help help you out. So I scored a fifteen and a sixteen on your quiz, So that puts me just a little bit there. There are some truths and I kind of thought, well, okay, the big ones that hit me when you talk about

11:15 at the end of the day, you just can't look back and go, man, where did that day? Why didn't they get anything done? And where you're bridged with new ideas all day long. You know, you'll start working and say, oh man, this would be a cool project in this cool building. But then when you started talking about the three different types of ADDHD, then I think, well, that might raise my score up quite a bit. Ever since I've been a little kid, I've been a daydreamer and I'm fifty eight and I'm still a big time daydreamer. Yeah, it's it's really interesting. It sounds like you scored sort of middle of the scale, but on a stronger likelihood. And again that assessment does incorporate one of the self reported assessments that that doctors use. Of course, isn't an official undiagnosis, but it is an interesting directional thing. And yeah, there is Yeah, the daydreaming and certain aspects of it.

12:03 It's it's a spectrum, so some things might jump out more and some things might jump out less. So you mentioned a little bit of drug like, like you said, little boys, the hyperwes, they're the ones who are given the drugs and all that kind of stuff. Is that bad for him in the long run? You know, it really depends. You know. Uh, I'm not a doctor, so I can't, like, you know, offer medical advice. But I think there is a balance, right if there is medication and neurochemistry is so individualized like i've, you know, just being transparent like i've i've you know, the main first line of drugs that they give are stimulants like adderall and ridlin, and that what that does is it helps kind of kind of accelerates all parts of the brain.

12:46 It makes all parts of the brain actor so that you get enough executive function to go along with everything else. But it's a really it can be a real roller coaster ride, and it can work for a while and then stop working, and there can also be some some side effects. So it's really a very much a very individual thing, and there's always a balance with medications. In terms of you know, being able to live your life versus whatever side effects, because there's never any medications without side effects. Right. So so my takeaway, you know, what I would invite people to take away is is you know, it is really an individual choice. And because each each person's brain chemistry is different, so I would you know, suggest everybody consult with their their doctor, their kids a doctor to figure out what the best course for them is.

13:34 And everybody's level of ADHD is different too. I mean you'll have some with your hardcore and some m'st like you said, our borderline and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and some people like there's a lot of people in my group who don't do medications. There's and do it with you know, diet and exercise and and things like that, and that definitely helps. And definitely the taking care of your body helps take care of your brain. So sleep is you know, the better your sleep is, the better you're you're able to leverage your executive function. And there's other folks who you know, who are having a lot of success with medication, and so it's you know, to me, I think my philosophy on it is is, hey, you've got a brain that works a certain way, and just like we have, you know, we have different levels of eyesight, which is also kind of a nerve of the brain. The eyes. We get glasses when we're when we can't see exactly right right to help, and nobody thinks twice about getting glasses or lay six or contacts, And I think that's that's the thing we need. The attitude I like to take with with with with other brain stuff is like, hey, if we have stuff that can help, then let's use that and if it if it doesn't help, then don't use it. So but it is that that kind of attitude of like, Okay, we don't expect people to squint all the time and just tough it out for their eyesight, and I think we should, you know, give people the space to and support they need when there are other parts brain that work a little differently.

15:01 You know, that's a really good point because I mean when you said earlier that you said that calling it a disorder is kind of given it a diserve. I mean, you wouldn't call somebody who needed glasses they have an eye disorder. You would not, right, And you know, I think you know, for the medical field, they have to have a diagnostic so they have to almost almost have to call it a disorder. But in the sense of I think it's more helpful to think of it as a different brain type for the people who have it, because there's no cure for it per se. There's just different ways you can support it and work with it, like you would work with any kind of thing, like with eyesight or whatever. And it's one of those things too that a lot easier to work with once you understand that you have it.

15:41 Absolutely, it's been quite honestly, it's been very transformational from my life to actually understand how my brain is working, and then I can understand these behavioral patterns, because what a lot of people experience on ADHD is the sense that, you know, oh, if only I had more discipline, if only I had more willpower, if only I had you know, I must not be driven enough, or might not be ambitious enough, or it's just basically, it's so easy to turn it into I'm not this, I have this character flaw, whereas if it's just, hey, my brain works this way and I just need to work with it so that I can get the best out of it and understand that certain things are going to be challenging and certain things are going to be easy for me. And as long as I look at it as oh, that's just the way my brain works, and I just have to deal with it, I think of it like again, like we look at executive function. One of the things we say is we have to manage our executive function, which is, you know what we have a limited resource of. We have to manage that like we like a diabetic might manage insulin. Right. It's something we just have to be conscious of. And it's not character flaw and it's not, you know, an indictment of our abilities as a person.

16:49 It's just Okay, this is our brain works, and this our body is working, and we're just going to do the things everything we can to support it so that we can get where we want to go. And I think it helped with a lot of frustration because I mean, if you, yeah, you don't think anything's wrong with you, and you go, man, why does everybody else is doing this? I'm not now, man, then I'll send you oh okay, that's just me. Okay, no reason to be frustrated anymore. Yeah, yeah, I mean I see that with so many of the folks that go through my weekly OS course and the folks who are in my accelerator program, and that they do feel that sense of relief of like, oh, I can just I understand why these things are happening. I understand better when my brain works this way and I have some things, some tools I can then deploy to make it go to get where I want to go.

17:31 It doesn't mean sometimes we're not still frustrated, or the week's kind of messy, or we didn't get quite as much done as we wanted, because one of the things that comes with ADHD is is something called time blind. This is that we have a hard time estimating how long things are going to take. You know, the joke is, how do you know if you're in a relationship with somebody with ADHD. If you say, hey, we have to leave in five minutes and they say, okay, great, I'll go jump in the shower, you know you're probably dealing with somebody who hasn't got it quite the grasp of time that you would hope. But once we know that, we can work with it and say, okay, I know my sense of time is going to be a little of bit challenged. So we can use different kinds of external supports, whether it's timers or One of the things that I do a lot with books is host co working sessions sometimes called body doubling, where we get together and if we want to get something done, we just tell each other what we're going to be working on, and then we set a timer and we all sit together and work on it over the zoom and it just it's like magic. People can actually get stuff done.

18:26 You know, probably help your spouse on loves on a lot. They wouldn't be so frustrated too. Like you said, the shower thing, Okay, we can't tell him we're going to leave in five minutes. We got to tell him a half hour before him. Yeah, exactly. Because one of the things, another thing that happens that AHD brains have, and this is all part of the executive function, is this thing called working memory, and that's the ability to keep things that are out of sight in mind. So it's very the opposite is out of sight out of mind. And I always wondered why I go to these conferences when I was leading my startup, and I'd meet all these people and they would literally have name tags on them and I would look at their name and meet their names, and then I'd walk away and I'd be like, I have no idea you know what their name is like, It's not even that I could reach it. It was just gone. And that's like a deficit and working memory. So ADHD brains often will have a challenge of keeping things in mind, and that can be really frustrating for people who are around them and are in relationships with them or working with them. But when we all understand what might be going on there, then we can all kind of work together and kind of understand, Okay, it's just how somebody's brain work, and we have to work with that. They're part of the it's part of the package, and so we'll work together to figure out how to best navigate that.

19:37 Okay, and we'll talk about that in a little bit. First, let's see what happened on November the eighteenth throughout history. Now, according to legend, it was today in thirteen oh seven over in Switzerland that William Tell refused to honor as king. He wouldn't jump up and bow to his hat. So the king and he was pretty mad, so he ordered William Tell. For his punishment, he had to shoot a son off with his bow and arrow off of his son's head. Well, the apple off of his son head and it's split in half. Well that started a whole chain reaction of events and ended up with Till killing that killing that game. Then he wouldn't honor now through history. It's pretty good little folk story, but it's probably not true, so fummer. But they made the movie about it, right, it makes a good gotta be true if they made a movie about it.

20:19 That's true, and it's not even on the internet. Yeah, jeez. In nineteen twenty six in Rome, Saint Peter's Basilica it was consecrated. Now it's built on the same spot that they don't the original Saint Peter's church back in thirty twenty six. Now, they had to tear that down in fifteen oh five, so they started building again in fifteen oh six, finished it in sixteen twenty six. Now, when a church is consecrated, that means that's blessed and formally dedicated to a sacred space. Now Saint Peter's it is the largest Catholic church in the world. And this surprised me. Started, well, what's the largest church in the world, it's actually being built, you have any idea where it would possibly be. I think it's weird. But I always feel like the biggest thing that in the world that's being built right now is kind of being built over in China like that they just opened up. But I bet you I'm wrong on that this one.

21:03 No, I don't think anybody would get if they didn't know Nigeria who they're building an evangelical church that's like one hundred and fifty times or one hundred and fifty thousand feet bigger than Saint Peter's Basilica. Wow. Now, back in the day, every city in town they had their own zip code. Yeah, you just made it up whatever you want. And you said, Okay, we're going by mountain or well it's ten o'clock here, Well it's nine o'clock there. Well we don't care, we're going by ten o'clock whatever. When eighteen eighty three, the United States and Canada they were they had to do something, it was just a mess for railroads. You know, there's no standard time zone. How are you gonna be able to do that? So they decided that they were going to have four time zones, the Atlantic, the Central, the Mountain and Pacific and that's it, just those four time zones.

21:45 So they replaced over a hundred different time zones across the country. Well, the rest of the world out saw that thought, you know what that is really cool. Wellin months, the rest of the world they had standard time zones. Now, what it does starts at the prime Meridian. It goes through Greenwich, England. So when you hear which meantime, that's where it starting. And the reason it starts there is because the primary radio it's at zero on the longitude scale. So then you just work from there twenty four times around and you got it. Nineteen o two in Brooklyn, New York, Morris Mitchton. You named the stuff bears that he was selling, Teddy Bears. Yep, name him after President Theodore Roosevelt. Amazing it back in the back in the day. Cool. Okay, let's uh, let's let's fast forward to nineteen sixteen. A British general Douglas Haig finally called off the Battle of Somme in France. Now, this is a battle that had been raging since July first, so July first and November twelfth, and it was the classic trench warfare of World War One and maybe the worst of it. The front Light had only just five miles in that entire whole time, and it's one of the bloodiest battles in history, and it's between England, France and Germany. Over one million, one hundred and twenty thousand men were killed or wounded. This is like the height of a mechanized warfare, insanity and sending young men into the meat grinder. And finally Haig realized how stupid the fight was and then put a stop to it. And you know, my own editorial would

23:17 be like a little late, but thank god he did. Yeah. So let's fast forward to nineteen sixty one, and this also was an interesting moment in history, especially for our country. US President John Kennedy sent eighteen thousand military advisors to South Vietnam. So this was sort of the beginning of the beginning of the Vietnam experience and Vietnam War for the US and unfortunately it did not turn out well for anybody involved. So that was the start and went through what the I think Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon administrations so cool. On a happier note, the nineteen sixty three, the first Touchtowne Telephones went into service started in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and if a customer wanted a touch tone phone instead of a rotary dial phone, it cost an extra dollar fifty a month, which is probably a lot more in today's dollars. If you don't know, you could not buy your own phone for your home until nineteen eighty three.

24:24 You had to run a phone from your local telephone company. And I remember those days well. I remember rotary phone and that the sound of it, you know, dialing that, and I thought it was pretty cool when we did get a touch tone phone. So good job us for Humanity for creating the touchtne phone. All right, Moving along nineteen seventy eight, Boy, Jeff, you gave me some really im ones. The ones I know you got, the cool ones I've got, like, okay, the Jones to come. Massacre took place in Guyana. It's on the northeast coast of South America. And this was a huge deal at the time.

25:06 And you know that phrase drinking the kool aid has been the longest kind of survivor of that episode is that, you know. It was a religious cult named the People's Temple, which was led by Jim Jones, who was this very charismatic person out of I believe it was San Francisco. Almost all of them were for the United States. They fled to Guyana to flee the United States government that wanted to shut them down for being well nuts. Jones ordered all the members to commit suicide by drinking a great drink laced with sign it basically kool aid. Nine hundred and eighteen people, including Jones, died, and those who didn't drink were shot and killed. So this is a really crazy cult and this is where the phrase drinking the kool aid came from. So just one footnote on this.

25:52 If you've ever watched The Studio, the show on I believe it's Apple TV called The Studio, they did a little send up on this in a weird way. Is that Seth Rogan's character, who's a new studio head, has been given the ultimatum to do a kool Aid movie and then happens to bump into Martin Scorsese who wants to do a movie about Jonestown, and he thinks this is like the best thing, And then of course the studio and everybody is not happy that that would be the cool Aid movie they would make, so and now you. Know why that's a neat though, what's that? So that's kind of a neat concept. Yeah, it was pretty funny because basically he ended up killing Scorsese's movie, and it's literally Martin Scorsese in the in the show, and so they basically send up everybody.

26:38 So it was a pretty funny episode, seeing you know funny. Nineteen eighty five, the greatest comic strip of all time debuted Calvin and Hobbes, created by Bill Waterston Waterson, about a six year old boy, Calvin and his best friend and Steff Tiger Hobbes, who comes to life and if you want to win a bet, Calvin's last name was Jacobson and Alvin and Hobbes has been. It has stood the test of time because I introduced my kiddo to it about when they were younger, and we have like we still quote it and we've had moments where we were laughing so hard we were crying. So if you haven't read Calvin Hobbs, go read it. If you have read Calvin and Hobbs in the past, go back to it and relive some great memories.

27:22 Yeah, that was definitely my favorite. I mean I remember sitting in college and reading on the school newspaper during class. I've read Calvin and Hobbs instead listen to the professor. Oh yeah, way more entertaining, Way more entertaining. Okay, so we know what ADHD is now, and we think WHOA might have it, and we know that drugs might be but there is a way to deal with that. You need a good coach, like stay here. So how do you? How do you what is your process? I mean you don't have to go into great detail, but if I came to you and I said, yeah, I have it, and you know, now help me, I guess basically it just helped me live with it, right, Yeah, I. Mean, you know, my specialty is working with entrepreneurs, but some of the things I the techniques I teach work for all folks. And what I've found that because ADHD brains have a really tough challenge with time, that basically narrowing things down to a weekly cadence having a system to navigate your weeks is kind of the best container for progress. Because the thing about ADHD brains is they're only motivated into action by really two things, and that is intense interests and urgent consequences, and in between there's this kind of dopamine desert that we have to navigate, and that's where like steady progress happens. And so if we can actually do that, we can actually make progress when there isn't an urgent deadline, then our life is going to be a lot less stressful, a lot more free, and a lot more fulfilling. And so what I've developed is something called a weekly operating System or weekly OS that helps you figure out what's important for the week,

28:53 how to make progress, and then how to make your brain exactly where it is so that you end the week feeling like proud of your progress and able to be free and enjoy your life in the weekend. So that is the heart of what I teach. And it's a really fun program and it's about takes about three weeks. And yeah, you want to find out more. Steve august Coaching dot com is a place you can find out about it. Well, I'm assuming in a type a personality probably doesn't have ADAHD. That's probably pretty basic, right, I mean. No, I mean it really is independent of personality type. It's really uh, you know, there's there are a a style, ADHD brains, you know, a type personality, AHD brains, and everything in between. So it's it's really about click. It's really about the ability to make good on the things that you've created and you want to do, or the things that wait, how you want to show up in life.

29:53 And you know, a type personality sometimes have that drive that really pushes them, but they're still dealing with with all with the issues around focus and clarity and often overwhelmed because ADHD brains also have a way of making everything seem equally important and equally urgent all at the same time, and so even a type personalities can can have to navigate that. So do people with ADHD Are they kind of driven to be like entrepreneurs and creative people? Then they're often driven to be creative people. They're not always driven to be entrepreneurs. But what makes them often want to go into entrepreneurship is that is that doing the same thing over and over in a very structured environment can be very challenging for an ADHD brain because once something isn't interesting anymore, it's really hard for them to ANHD brain to be motivated to keep doing it, and so often an HD brain will will work in if they work in a job and really like it. It might be like a startup or a very dynamic job, or something that's moving from like crisis to crisis and you're always putting out fires, and ADHD brains will will sometimes often thrive in that. But often people will say, Okay, I have something I've created. I have all these amazing ideas, and I can't do them in my current structured job.

31:10 And a lot of the folks in our accelerator are people who are excited about something they want to create. They're working a current job and are making in the process of making the leap, and the thing that's been in their way is their ability to actually make consistent progress each week in order to make good on that idea that they have. And so a lot of us, a lot of folks in the the ADHD Entrepreneur Accelerator program are launching new businesses and creating new things. And it's a beautiful thing to see. Yeah, I can see that definitely, because you're sitting there and you're okay, yeah, this great idea. But then getting from the idea to actually actually doing it, that's kind of hard. Yeah, And that's that becomes the real sticking point, right, is not the coming up with the ideas, but just making good on the brilliance. And that takes kind of consistently showing up and being able to show up even when the interest fades a little bit and you have to get through the stuff that's a little harder and it can be also challenging if you're doing it on your own, that you create all your own deadlines. And so what we do in the ADHD Entrepreneur Accelerator is help people with that so they can make the progress, so they don't squander their their brilliant and they're able to like, for example, we have one person who always wanted it to a couple ideas around travel, and one of the things she wanted to do was a kind of travel journal that really helped people capture their their memories in a really interesting way. But she was never able to like, like make it happen. You know, she

32:40 had her day job and she was kind of struggling just to get things done in the day job. And then as she started to get able to consistently deliver the things in her day job, she at started making amazing progress with this journal idea she had and she finally has one in her hand and is getting ready to go out and sell it. So really exciting things happen. Oh that's really cool, all right, less. She was born on November the eighteenth. Joke joke, joked joke, show dish shibt day. He left this. Shiverday, we got simple car. She was like this shibirth day, and you know you don't give day. Do you remember the original vacation movie where chevy Chase takes his family in the Waly World? Do I ever classic remember they had to give a ride to aunt Edna. Yeah, but she was played by I'm a Gene Coca.

33:29 Now. She was born in Philadelphia in nineteen oh eight. Start acting in nineteen twenty five. She stayed pretty busy acting your entire life. She was nominated for a Tony and she was when she was eighty years old. She was actually nominated for her sixth Emmy. Yeah, it was for an episode of Moonlighting. All right. Yeah. Her first husband died after twenty years of marriage. Her second husband died after twenty seven years of marriage. I'm a Jene. She died from natural causes in two thousand and one. At ninety two years old. Wow, good eatings and a lot of laughs along the way. True. I mean, nobody could have played that part any better than she did. No, and she goes way back. I think she was part of Sid Caesar's cast, right, I think in the mad Man shows. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, asked not Alan Shepherd. He was born in Darry, New Hampshire in nineteen twenty three.

34:09 Now he was the second person in First America to go into space. Ten years later, in nineteen seventy one, he was a fifth person to walk on the Moon. Now he's the astronaut that hit the golf balls up there. Now, he got in a little bit of trouble for that. See, he had to sneak the six iron head on there and a couple of golf balls onto the space ships. Yeah, that was in no, no, no. But what he did when he got up there, he attached that six iron head to a dirt sample shovels of coop pandle And then when he went out and hit the golf balls. Now you think they would just fly like crazy, but he says, because of that big old bulky space suit and the hardest part of those big old gloves. His first shot only went twenty four yards and his next shot only went forty five yards. So I don't know. I think he just might have sucked at golf. Now, Alan he married nineteen forty five and they had three daughters.

34:52 He died from Leikemi in nineteen ninety eight, a seventy four years old. Hi there, hold there, you're as welcome there, all right, Well that's a little bit of a giveaway. Today is also Mickey Mouse Day. It's Mickey's ninety seventh birthday. In nineteen twenty eight, the first Mickey Mouse short film was released, the classic Steamboat Willie. Originally, Mickey was supposed to be Mortimer Mouse. Walt Disney's wife, however, insisted it be Mickey, which proved to be a very good call by her.

35:38 Mickey was the first cartoon character to get a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And the reason Mickey wears white gloves this is really interesting, is so that you can see his hands, because without them, they would just bleed into the rest of the body and you wouldn't see what his hands were doing. So Mickey's full name Michael Theodora Mouse and Mickey and Minnie. Interesting enough, were never married, but in a ironic twist of faith, the actress who voiced them, Wayne Allred Mickey and Russi Taylor Minnie and did marry in real life. Okay, moving along. Actress Linda Evans is eighty three born in Hartford, Connecticut, in nineteen forty two. Most known for TV. She first got known on The Big Valley and then she hit it huge on Dynasty. Her first time husband was director John Derek, and after six years of marriage, he left her for a seventeen year old and looked alike essentially bo Derek and Linda married a second husband for four years, and then she dated Yannie for ten years and low key. Definitely, she was my definite crush on Dynasty. Some people were more Joan Collins crushes, but I was definitely Linda Evans crush.

36:48 I would have gone Linda. Yeah, all right, we've got John Parr was born in works Stop, England. I hope I'm saying that right, nineteen fifty two, seventy three years old now, and grew up in Sherwood Forest in England. Yeah, it's a real town. Some of John's hits Naughty, Naughty, Magical, and Saint Elmo's Fire, which is I think he's probably what he's best known for and blame it on the radio. He has two sons.

37:34 One is a big soap opera start in England, so great. Good for his son to make it inhow biz. Yeah. Actor comedian Kevin Neil and he's seventy two. He is born in Saint Louis, Missouri, in nineteen fifty three. Started out as a stand up community. Well he still lives. Yeah, he's actually on tour right now. He was just in Denver here last Friday and Saturday Night. He's got shows all the ways scheduled up to April. If you want to check Kevin out on stage, He's on Saturday Night Live from nineteen eighty six to ninety five. Then that on TV. He was on Weeds for seven years now. He's been in pretty much every Adam Sandler movie. But I guess he did Daddy Daycare without Adam. Kerevin. He married his second wife in two thousand and five and they have a son. And she is sixty five year old Kim Wilde. Now she's still tours in Europe. She's really big over there now. She was born in Chris Wick, England in nineteen sixty Now in England, Kim, she was the most charted female singer of the nineteen eighties.

38:43 That surprised you, Yeah, it kind of does, because there's a lot of big female singers in the eighties. And that song I played Kids in America went to number two over there. In Britain, yeah, United States got to number twenty five. Yeah, I guess she was a big deal in the UK. She out said, you came, say you really want me our biggest dead wise you keep me hanging on. That went to number one over here, Kim. She was married for twenty five years and they divorced and she has a son and a daughter. She still looks pretty good actually, yeah, amazing. Actor Owen Wilson. He was born in Dallas, Texas in nineteen sixty eighties. Fifty seven. Younger brother is actor Luke Wilson. Now only he's made over seventy movies. Some of the big ones are Armageddon, the Zoolander movies, Behind Enemy Lines, Wedding Crashers, the Fucker movies. Now he has done a lot of writing. Yeah. He was actually nominated for an Oscar for the screenplay for the Royal tenembumps. So I can't vic see him as a writer, but he's done a lot of it.

39:40 Yeah, apparently has a huge reputation as somebody who can really really write. I think in the Wedding Crashers, just that line that you know, he said, there's a study that we only use a small percentage of our brains, but really, I think we only use a small percentage of our hearts. And apparently that was one he came up with. Got some doubt then, didn't he? Yeah, he does. If you're wondered about his nose, he twice. He broke it once in high school in a fight, and then he broke it once in college playing flag football. But he said that that's how he meant. So he's not going to change it. It's made a lot of money. Why would he? Yeah, Now he has two sons and one daughter, all from three ex girlfriends. Really cab, you. See why Lussy.

40:22 And Sion Black Cabin. Don't go liet lag. Yeah, all right, that's Duncan Chic bring me a flashback from the nineties with that song. He's fifty six born in Montclair, New Jersey, nineteen sixty nine. When he was going to Brown University Ivy League boy. He played a guitar, played guitar in a band who singer was Lisa Lope. They went their separate ways after college, both finding some great success. Some Duncan hits like barely Breathing, we just heard Reason for Living and wish We'll thinking on a high. He can a lot of music for movies in Broadway now and he's won two Tony's and Duncan and his girlfriend have a daughter.

41:07 Okay, now that so, what do you think the most important thing is for people who even suspect that they you know, m bas D eighty eighth D. What do you think the first step should be? Yeah? I think if you suspect it, then I would take the step of like seeing if you can get a diagnosis, you could start. There are some organizations online that have some you know, online assessments, but yeah, talk to your doctor because you know, whether you decide to treat it or with medications or or not. Understanding how your brain really works is so helpful for understanding you know your own behavior patterns and for making your way through life and to do it with to do it.

41:52 The better we understand ourselves, the better, we can make our lives. It is my philosophy. So my invitation to anybody who feels is says, yeah, you know, what you're talking about kind of resembles what I experience. I would take that step and get curious and take a step towards diagnosis. How do I know? You can't ask this? I'm just kind of thrown it out there. How proficient Do you think though, that your regular doctor would be into helping you with ADHD or do you think they just have to push you off? Well, so there's there's different levels of assessment so they can at least administer the it's an assessment. It's usually a questionnaire. The there's like two questionnaires. There's like a six question questionnaire and then there's an eighteen question one and they can they can probably at least get you started with that or point you to where you can get started with that, and then if that shows like yeah, you might be done with ADHD here, then there's there's bigger assessments that you can do if you decide to do it, but they can at least get you started.

42:54 And if you want to take the assessment on your website, you at the quiz people can actually come take that. Yeah. Yeah, that'll give you some direction. As well, and you get an answer like immediately. We not even have to wait a week or anything for sure, Okay. And so make sure it's going to be in today's show notes and they'll get you into your website and it shows you a lot of interesting things about coaching and stuff too. Yeah, check it out. We've got that. We've got a weekly dashboard template that you can use. And yeah, and you can also check out my podcast ADHD Entrepreneur Accelerator. You can find it on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, all the places. Okay, and that link will be on there too, So you have no excuse not to hit up Steve and learn all about your ADHD. All right here quote today comes on the twenty first President of the United States, Chester A. Arthur. He died to day in eighteen eighty six at fifty seven years old. Many men have died so that the fabric of a free institution remains unshaken.

43:50 And do you get that. Yeah, that's a good one. All right, Thank you, Thank you Steve for benninger Man. It's been a really good time talking to you. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. Jeff, I love taking this trip down through a history link. All right, and all you follow us. It makes it easier to follow and see the show to the description. That's where you have the links already catching on the Steve stuff and our stuff too, our country underground radio artist today. It comes from Leah out in Phoenix. So she wants to hear but forward songs. I'll never know if I don't ask you. Guys, have an awesome day and we'll talk tomorrow. Girl, where'd you get bad accent? Are you from Tennessee? And did you come here by yourself? Are you with somebody?

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