Nov 5-Redheads, Guy Fawkes, Art Garfunkel, Herman's Hermits, A Flock of Seagulls, Bryan Adams, Monopoly

0:19 Hello everyone i am jeff and welcome to history and factoids about today my co-host today she is just an awesome writer mostly known probably for her fantasy but yeah if she writes it you know it's gonna be fun and interesting and all that kind of stuff leslie why don't you go ahead tell everybody about yourself Well, thank you. So much for having me. Like you mentioned, I am a fantasy writer who actually got her start writing historical fiction. I thought that was the career path I was. Going to take. And then one day I had. A really good friend of mine say, hey, you should try writing sci-fi or fantasy. And here we are. It's become... the love of my life, really. I've written four books in one series, The Legends of the Veil. And then I'm currently working on the prequel series to Legends of the Veil. And that series is entitled The Age of Gods.

1:12 Okay. And we will, like all the listeners know, we always put links so they'll be able to go buy the books and all that kind of stuff. And we've got some other stuff that you've got that's kind of exciting out there going on. So you're a very good writer. I'm guessing you probably started as a kid. Yes, I started. My mom says I started before I was six. My earliest memory of writing would have been when I was about six years old. So my whole life. Well, you weren't writing fantasy back then. Do you remember what you were writing? No. Actually, one of the first stories I wrote was something. I wrote it for. A competition, like a writing competition in the second grade.

1:55 And it was about a princess. And I think her name was Rose. And she had. a unicorn. Or some sort of magical creature that got kidnapped and so it was all about how she went with the prince of course there had to be a prince to find this magical missing beast um i got second place so i was doing something right but um yeah not the fantasy that i write now most definitely no. But hey it's still fantasy yeah it's still a magical creature So when you were growing up, what did you like to read? I cut my teeth on Charlotte's Web and The Chronicles of Narnia.

2:42 Those were, I must have read The. Chronicles of Narnia six or seven times before I was a teenager. Yeah. So definitely kind of like stayed in the fantasy realm. And then when I grew up, I was still reading a lot of fantasy. Tolkien is one of my personal heroes. There's a lot of Tolkien-esque things in my fantasy series. And then I'm a big fan of an author named Stephen R. Lawhead, who actually one of his books was just turned into a miniseries for. Daily Wire, The Daily Wire. They turned one of his books into a.

3:23 Miniseries, and it's been streaming at the top 10 on Prime for months. That's pretty exciting for me. She's giving you the thumbs up, so go check him out. There you go. You know, I'm an accomplished writer. I have a book series. You are? What do you write? Well, I have a series that comes out every single month. And the critics, that's awesome. The critics say that I am a master with wordplay and that my books keep people guessing the whole entire book. That's awesome. That takes talent to keep them guessing. Well, thanks for saying that. But the listeners are all laughing because they know it's a puzzle books. They're puzzle books.

4:09 You know, you literally are keeping them guessing. Exactly. But, see, the Puzzle Books, you know, we start the show off every time with the National Day of the Month, or National Day of the Month. And all those people know, I never am able to match up my co-host with the National Day. It never works out. I've had some epic fails, but, you know, it's just never worked. Listeners, today I did it. I matched my co-host with the National Day. You think it might get over. Well, I just lose all control. Because when I see one walking by, I start to sweat.

4:57 It is National Love Your Red Hair Day. And Leslie's a pretty redhead. So thanks for coming on a National Love Your Red Hair Day. There you go. I'm glad to oblige. It's what makes Leslie so special. Well, and all the other redheaded people. Only 2% of the people in the world have red hair. Now, the rarest genetic combination in the world is red hair and blue eyes. 0.17% of people have that. I'm not going to go. Got it made. No, I've got blue eyes, so I'm part of that category. Yes, you are the special ones. Ooh. And guess this, guys. Leslie, she will never go gray. Nope.

5:41 The redhead pigment. I know. The redhead pigment will just fade, and she will be blonde or white. Yes. Female actresses, they have a better chance of winning an Academy Award if they have red hair. There you go. Guys, no, not so much. You don't really have a shot at all. So, guys, we are celebrating you. So how are we going to celebrate National Love Your Red Hair Day? Well, you can co-host a podcast with one. There you go. Now, if you're dating someone, you know, treat it like Valentine's Day. But unlike Valentine's Day, this isn't a made-up holiday. So, you know, just go all out for them. Now, guys... Today is the perfect day. You got that really cute redhead that's in your, I don't know, in class or at work or a neighbor and you want to ask him out, but you just haven't had the guts. Go ask her out today. And if she shoots you down, just say, well, I'm just doing it to be nice because it's National Love Your Red Hair Day. I didn't want to go out with you anyway. You know, seven U.S.

6:36 presidents have had red hair. George Washington, even though you see him, he wore a wig. Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, Calvin Coolidge, John Kennedy. Maybe Trump, but I don't think nobody knows about that. And I don't think he knows either. No, no one knows. It's very confusing. So how would you want to celebrate National Love Your Red Hair Day if this was like your day? If you could celebrate the way. You do it. If this was my day, take the day off and do absolutely nothing productive. Well, there you go. I think that'll be fine. We're all good with that. So you already mentioned one author. What other authors do you write? We know you got Tolkien.

7:19 Who else do you like? If I'm not doing the fantasy genre, I am a huge fan of Charles Dickens. I actually wrote my thesis on how Charles Dickens used his writing to advocate against child labor in the Victorian era. So Dickens has a special place in my heart. And then I don't know if anyone has heard of this author, but Leon Urus wrote a book called Trinity. It's massive. It's like that thick. Love that book. It's one of my favorite books of all time.

8:01 And I believe now I'm second guessing myself because I'm talking to a whole bunch of people. I think he also wrote Exodus. Which was made into a very famous movie with Paul Newman. Yeah, I know Leon. Okay, good. Cause we mentioned the, well, we'll just do it now. Let's see what's going on. Intervenement on November 5th. Let's go back to the year 2005. The number one album was I Am Me by Ashley Simpson. The number one song was Gold Digger by Conway West and Jamie Foxx.

8:56 I had to do a lot of searching to find one that I could actually play and not have an explicit rating. Keith Urban had the number one country song, Better Life. Woo-hoo! Do you know Nicholas Sparks? Love Nicholas Sparks. Well, he makes me cry. So we have a love-hate relationship. Well, his book, At First Sight, was the number one selling book today in 2005. There you go. The top movie list.

9:41 Yeah, that made me cry. Well, I haven't read any of his stuff, but he's sad, huh? Yeah, somebody always has to die in his stories. So it's just like, why? Well, he didn't write Charlotte's Web. It's valid. It's valid. E.B. White wrecked me, too. The number one movie was Chicken Little, an outcast chicken. He has to come to the rescue of his fellow citizens when aliens invade their town. Voiced by Zach Braff, Joan Cusack, Gary Marshall, Don Knotts, Patrick, a whole bunch of people. You see that one? Love that movie. Like, I'm a sucker for Chicken Little. You're a screenwriter. Are they hard to write? Uh.

10:25 Yes and no. Chicken Little was very unique in the sense that Chicken Little didn't really have. I mean, it was a book. It was a story. But what Disney did with Chicken Little, with the aliens being the reason why the sky is falling, spoiler alert if you haven't. Seen it, was incredible. They took something that was very abstract and they made it into this fantastical version that only Disney could do. So, yeah. Love stuff like that. Love how you take something simple and make it complex. Well, you wrote your own screenplay. I did write my own screenplay. I feel like I cheated a little bit, though, because my screenplay is adapted from one of my books.

11:08 That's not cheating. It was a massive shortcut. Well, no, there's even an Academy Award for best written movie that comes from a book. This is true. This is true. That's my goal. That's the Academy Award that I want to win. Hashtag goals. So you've gotten awards and stuff for it. I have. Not an Academy Award. But I currently am sitting at 23 award. Wins for the screenplay. So, which is... Completely. It wasn't part of the life journey that I had. You know, like I wanted to write the books. I was doing an interview with somebody about the first book in the Legends of the Veils series. And the guy was just like, you know, kind of like abstractly, this would make a really good movie.

11:56 You should write the screenplay. And never wrote a screenplay in my life, but I taught myself and I just kind of put it out there in the universe. And here we are. So it's... Whatever! You don't have to say it, but in your mind, you kind of already have pictured the actors and actresses you'd like to be in it. Oh, 100%. And I'm very... I've had a lot of conversations with people about this. I'm a very big advocate of using. Not as well-known people in, if it ever were to become a movie and I ever were to have a say, you know, like who do you want to cast?

12:38 Which is not normal. For a screenwriter or an author to like have a say in who they. Want in the movie version of their book. But I want people who haven't gotten their big break to to have this be their big break so i'm a very big advocate of finding people whether it's an actor or actress director cinematographer um that haven't had their moment in the spotlight yet so that's that's. The goal for the movie that is yet to be. Well that's cool do you like indie authors too. I love indie authors. Yeah. So like if I'm talking, like I just, I did a Facebook page takeover on Friday for like an author group.

13:24 And like if somebody was like, hey, have you seen my book? Like it's in the mail from Amazon because I believe that we have to support each other. And so I may like it, I may not, but I'll buy your book. I'll give you that tick on your bar graph as far as how many books you've sold. It's funny. There's a Scottish author. His name's Harrison Hickman. And he has this really popular book out. Well, indie author. And I said, yeah, I'll read it. And I got it. And he was like, the reviews of it are just, you know, the critics just love it. So it comes in. That's awesome. And I look at it and it's like 730 pages. He's coming on next week.

14:05 No wonder the critics liked. It. Sorry, Harrison. I couldn't finish that, man. I only had like four days. Right? Yeah, I know. Okay. Should we see what happened in history on November the 5th? Let's do it. Okay. Over in England, they're celebrating hard today. And it's not because of the redheads. I guess there would be a lot of redheads over in England and Ireland and the whole area. Yeah. But no. Have you heard of Guy Fawkes? I have. It's one of my favorite pieces of history. Remember, remember the 5th of November. So she knows that I should, I should have just said, Hey, write your own, write your own gay Fox days show.

14:50 Be interesting, more interesting than this for all the rest of you. It was in 1605. See now after years of being persecuted, a group of Catholics, they decided to kill King James, but they also wanted to take out as many royalty and legislators and all that kind of stuff as they could. So their plan was when they opened up parliament, and everybody would be there, they were going to blow up 36 barrels of gunpowder that were stored in the basement of the House of Lords. So they had it all set up. Now, one of those conspirators, he got cold feet. Yeah, so he actually told. Well, the British authorities, they went around searching the building. Sure enough, they go to the basement, and there's Guy Fawkes sitting on 36 barrels of gunpowder. I mean, he tried to be all sly. He put, like, little sackcloths and, like, sticks and stuff in front of him. But they didn't fool him. They knew it was there. So they arrested him.

15:36 They tortured him for two days. It took them that long before he finally gave up all the conspirators. They were all gathered up. Yeah, they were all sentenced to death by dragging by horse. Then their genitals would be cut off and burned in front of them. Then they'd have their hearts and bowels removed. They'd be decapitated, and they would be dismembered and then fed to the birds. You know what? Guy did not like that. So when he had his chance, he made a run for it. He jumped out the window. Well, he was 50 feet up, so he broke his neck. But hey, that'd be a lot better way to die than the rest of those guys had to do anyway. Right. So let's go back to the night that it all went down, though. See, when it all went down, they let out word about the plot. And so all the peasants in the surrounding countryside, they were all celebrating that King James nearly escaped death. So they built bonfires. They ate, drank, and they partied and all that kind of stuff. They burnt an effigy guy and the other guys. They still do that 420 years later, except now they actually add fireworks to it.

16:33 Why not? Did I get it right? Yeah, you got. It right. Good job. 1781, John Hanson. He was from Maryland. He was elected president of the United States Congress. Now, not the Continental Congress. No, this was the first meeting of the United States Congress. So technically, Mr. Hanson is the first president of the United States. But the loophole is he was elected by the Congress people. He wasn't elected by the citizens, so that's why he doesn't get that. It doesn't count. 1911 a pilot named Culberth Rogers he arrived in Pasadena California he had left Sheepshead Bay New York he was the first pilot to fly all across the United States coast to coast took him 49 days.

17:17 Crazy 49 days. You're pretty creative and with your books and all that kind of stuff you have to think a lot about strategy do you like board games. Yes some ones that don't hurt my brain. What about Monopoly I love monopoly. It went on sale in 1935 today. That's awesome. 1935. Right. See, they had actually, um, bought in the game like years before a housewife actually came up with it and they bought the rights from her for like 20 bucks or something like that. But then they had to kind of finance it. Anyway, Parker brothers, they've finally, since they'd done that since 35, 275 million monopoly games have been stolen. Um, Do you know what Monopoly, what town it's taken from?

18:07 No clue. Atlantic City, New Jersey. If you look at all the avenues. Well, that makes sense. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Okay. I should have figured that one out. Well, now there's like a gazillion. Every town has their own Monopoly version, I think. Right. Right. The longest game of Monopoly lasted 70 straight days. You know what? I would have bumped that board after seven hours. I don't know. Right? I think in my life I finished one Monopoly game because everybody just gets so frustrated and angry and the money just goes flying and we just stop. Do you have a favorite? I always like the thimble.

18:47 The thimble and the Scotty Dog. I love the Scotty Dog. Okay. Today in 1955, Doc Brown, he was hanging a clock when he slipped and hit his head on the toilet. That's when he came up with the idea for the flux capacitor. As we all know, that's what makes time travel possible. Well, this high school kid named Martin McFly, he went back in 1984 to let Doc know that it worked. Awesome. Great movies. Oh, I got an egghead question for you here. Now, you're really creative and all that kind of stuff. In all the fantasy worlds you create in the Veil series and all that kind of stuff, If you could go into that world, which one would you go to or would you kind of go, no, those are a little too dangerous?

19:35 No, so I think if I ever got the chance to travel to the veil, I would go in time wise like on the like on the timeline i would go in in the third book um there's there's about a 20 year time jump and so it's like the sweet spot because you get to see all the characters from the first two books 20 years like along in their relationships but then you get the whole new like the second generation and of characters. So you get the best of both worlds. And, uh, the third book, which is called the Ash Walker. This is where, uh, we are introduced to fairies and dragons. Um, in, in the Ash Walker and in the world of the veil. So I think, I think that would be probably where I.

20:27 Like when I would want to jump into the veil. And then I think I would probably want to visit Dorcas, which is the, like the realm of. The vampire in the veil. So there you go. So this is all your mind and your fantasy world that you're just kind of like hanging out and think, well, let's say you're walking or your dog or something, and then it just comes to you. Is that how you end up writing? Yeah, that happens a lot. The initial idea to write the series came from reading my two kids who are now both almost teenagers. I've got a 14-year-old and a 12-year-old. This was during COVID.

21:10 We were reading a version of Beauty and the Beast that I read growing up. It's beautifully illustrated. And my imagination. Asked the question, what would have happened if Beast never changed back? Would Beauty still love him? And would she still stay with him? And that question is kind of answered in the first book. Is a monster lovable? And then it's just all been downhill from there. Yeah. I hope you asked her questions to yourself on that. Not the little kids. That's kind of deep. Yeah. That's too deep of a question for my kids. In fact, I think they were pretty bored. I was just trying to entertain them because we were all home and we couldn't go anywhere and they were homeschooling via zoom. And I was like, Hey guys, there's this great book, but neither of my kids are, are, are readers, which is weird.

22:03 I don't know what happened. So, um, they got bored. It's just the generation. They don't know how to, it's all video and all that kind of stuff. It's so sad. They just like get excited about a book and they're just like, you're crazy. I know. And it's, I think you had to read as a kid. Cause I mean, when you, when you are a reader and you like to read, I mean, you get older than life kind of steps in and you really can't read like you'd want to anyway. Yeah, exactly. But if you can get into a good book, man, it's just like a great way just to spend a few hours. It's a lot better than being. That was wonderful. Cause it's, That's why the movies always suck, because in everybody's mind, they picture this person. And then all of a sudden, it's like, wait, Tom Cruise, there's no way he could be Jack Reacher, man. He's not 6'5.

22:54 Right? Yes, exactly. Exactly. In fact, there's this huge thing. Going on now with the adaption of the fantasy series, Fourth Wing, where everybody has imagined how the main lead actor should look. And to be fair, a lot of the influence and the opinions have come from the fact that people have generated this character with AI. And so people do have like this visual reference. That's not real, but they have a reference and they cast the actor and everybody is losing their minds because he doesn't look anything like the AI renderings of how people think this character should look.

23:39 Yeah. Which is crazy to me. No, I can see that. Cause I'm, I mean, I was, I know it's way before your time, but it was, it, back when I was a little kid, they would have like these romance novels, whole series of them. You know, we need to go and all that. And Fabio, this guy, he was on all the covers of these. Fabio was everybody. Everybody always pictured Fabio as their lead guy. And then they made a movie. He doesn't look like that. Oh my gosh. Sorry, but we had to find somebody who could actually act. Right. Exactly. So as a writer, can you turn it off? Or are you always kind of looking at different things and kind of, oh, well, I could do this?

24:23 I try to. I'm a very big advocate in supporting mental health, which I think I've adapted that kind of passion for advocating for it as I've gotten older and as I've dealt with stressful situations and not. Self-caring um but it's hard like it because my mind like my mind is always going like 24 7 at like breakneck speed and so which is partly why i wrote the prequel series because i finished legends of the veil and i wasn't satisfied i'm like there's so much more in my mind in my imagination i have to get it out somehow like how am i gonna how am i gonna do that because i finished the series And that's why I went and I wrote the prequel, kind of like the origin story of The Veil. Because it's rolling around in my brain and I have to get it out somehow.

25:24 It's weird. Well, it works, but it does sound weird. You went from fairies to dragons to vampires. Oh, well, so I've always had. And probably some people would think an unhealthy interest in vampires, but not like Twilight, not like the Vampire Diaries. It was like a TV show that was on and everybody thought they were beautiful. I like the old stuff. I like the stories that inspired Bram Stoker to write Dracula. So I'm a very, like, that's kind. Of like my, I, I guilty pleasure. I sound like such a psychopath, like.

26:06 Is researching like the stories that led to Dracula. And then I love Dracula, but I'm not a big Twilight fan, which is weird. Cause I'm a fantasy writer, but. It was based on Vlad the Impaler, right? Yeah Vlad and there are also stories that about um there's a there's a story um called Camille and it's about a female vampire um that precedes Dracula and then there's a couple of other like short stories um. One is called, oh gosh.

26:47 Well, one is just called Vampire, but Vampire is spelled V-A-M-P-Y-R-E. And then there's another one, something about a tomb or something. I can't remember what it's called. And that also inspired Bram Stoker. So I just find that fascinating that everybody is just so obsessed with Dracula, but Dracula is not the first vampire. Right. So yeah, I think that's more of a health. I think that's actually more healthy because you know, the, the gritty dirty stuff, not these little pretty people running around. Yeah. Like, I like cool. Have a vampire, like be able to walk in the sunlight, but why do they have to sparkle?

27:35 All right. You want to see who was born on November the 5th? Let's do it. I think you're going to be a little too young for most of these people, but we'll see. Actress Natalie Schaefer. She was born in Red Bank, New Jersey in 1900. Heard of her? It was on, not Love Boat, Gilligan's Island. Yeah, she was Mrs. Howell. The only reason she took that job, she was a working actress, but she wasn't famous or anything like that.

28:17 And they said, we want to come do this pilot. And Natalie said, no, I'm not going to. It's in Hawaii. And she said, okay, I'll do it. Okay, I'm on it. And she said, this is the stupidest show I've ever seen in my entire life, but I get a free trip to Hawaii. And then she got there and they said, okay, we're going to pick it up. And she was like, oh, damn it. And then she had to go and move all the way from New York to California and everything. Now, I said she was born in 1900 in Red Bank, California, right? or in red bank new jersey well she told everybody her entire life that she was actually born in 1912 and so that's all they knew it wasn't until she died in 1991 and everybody went to her funeral and saw the bitch they found out that she was actually 91 years old they had no idea oh my gosh she had her she had married once for nine years back in the 1930s i think that guy knew I don't know.

29:09 That's a toss-up. I don't know. There's a yellow rose in Texas. I'm going there to see. No other fella knows her. Nobody, only me. She cried so when I left her. It like to. Broke my heart. And if we ever meet again, we never more shall part. He was known as the King of the Cowboys. That is Roy Rogers. King of the Cowboys was born in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1911. Now, he started out on radio doing cowboy and western shows and all that kind of stuff. He ended up being in over 100 movies. Most known, though, in the 1950s, he had the very popular TV show called the Roy Rogers Snow. And he played with his wife, Del Evans, and his horse, Trigger. Now, Del was actually his third wife. He had three children from his second wife.

29:59 Then him and Dale, they had five kids. Roy, he died from congestive heart failure in 1988, 86 years old. That was actually Jansen Brinson, Jackie Brinson singing that song. But Ike Turner wrote it, Rocket 88. He wrote it back in 1951. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they claim that is the number one rock and roll song ever out this all time. So if you're on Jeopardy and they say, what was the first rock and roll song? Rocket 88.

30:48 There you go. Ike Turner, he was born in Clarksdale, Mississippi in 1931. No, he very rarely sang. He mostly wrote the songs, played in the band, and just kind of managed all the artists and that kind of stuff. Of course, he's most known for his success when he was married to Tina Turner. You know, they're both in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame together. Have you heard the horror stories about Ike? Yeah, Ike, they did not have a good relationship either. Yeah, well, get this. Ike, he did not drink alcohol, he did not do drugs, and he would fire any of his... anybody in his band or worked for him if they did until he was 30 years old. Then Ike tried cocaine and he could not stop doing drugs, alcohol, or going to prison. He divorced six times. He had two children from his first wife, him and Tina. She was his third wife. They had one child together. They were married 16 years after he divorced from his sixth wife.

31:46 He had two more kids, you know, just kind of fun. Ike got out of prison, then died from a cocaine overdose in 2007 at 76 years old. What kind of music do you like? All things. I love classic 80s rock. Journey and Death Leopard are probably two of my favorite bands. I love alternative. My daughter was actually named after the band Anne Berlin. Okay. Which is like a smaller independent band. Not many people know who Amberlynn is, but it's like alternative. Rock, I guess. Okay. But then I also love like classic music. I love Tchaikovsky and Chopin and Handel and Mozart. I listen to a lot of classical music when I write. And then I love soundtracks. I have a lot of just movie soundtracks that are on my playlist for when I write.

32:43 Like. Jablonski, who did some of the pirate movies. I love John Williams. The soundtrack to the movie Interstellar is probably one of the top pieces that I'll listen to. I'm a smorgasbord. When I was a little kid, I think it might have been my first album I ever had. It was a soundtrack. But nothing like yours. It was the soundtrack to Grease. Oh, heck yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Gosh, I would dance around in my bedroom as a teenager to You're the One That I Want and Summer Lovin' and Beauty School Dropout.

33:28 Oh, yeah. Okay. We're both in agreement. We're really not into folk. No, no. That's about the only one I can handle. But half of Simon and Garfunkel aren't Garfunkel. He's 85. He was born in Forest Hills, New York. He met Paul Simon when they were going to high school together. They released their first album in 1964. Broke up in 1970. They did a bunch of reunion shows. Now Artie's released 10 solo albums. Married his second wife in 1988 and they had two sons. Now him and one of his sons, they're actually out touring.

34:20 That's so cool. But I was thinking, I don't know if I'd book him. Because you think about, you know, you have a club and you know that marquee outside. How many letters would you have to use to have Garfunkel and Garfunkel? Garfunkel and Garfunkel. They'd run out.

35:02 That's Peter Noon. He's kind of like John Stamos. He doesn't really age. That's true. Yeah. He's 79. He was born in Davieholm, England. He started singing with Herman Hermes when he was 15 years old. You know, the clubs out there in London and all that kind of stuff. Well, there was this cartoon. It was called Bullwinkle. And one of the little kids in there was Sherman. And everybody thought he looked like Sherman in Bullwinkle. Well, the Brits would all get drunk and call him Sherman. But then with the accent and the alcohol, he just ended up getting the nickname Herman. Herman. So then they said, well, we better call the rest of the band Hermits. That's how they became Herman and the Hermits. Still together. And they still play and perform and all this. And they don't know how. They honestly, Peter, he's talked about it. He can't figure it out either.

35:47 About 20 years ago, they'd been playing for like 40 years or whatever it is. And then all of a sudden they realized they didn't own their name. They don't know what happened to it. So now when you see them, they have to be Herman Hermits featuring Peter Noon. That's the only way they can perform. Oh, my gosh. Now, like I said, he still performs. If you're into 60s music, he has a radio show on Sirius XM Radio on their 60s station. That's cool. This is cool. Got married in 1968. They're still together, and they have a daughter. Nice. I got a fire in the head, no time in the road. Head to the top of the road. That's Mike's score.

36:39 He still sings and plays keyboard for the new wave. Bang. Flock of seagulls. So how long can you call something new? I mean, is it really new wave anymore? Kind of like new kids on the block. I don't think so. You know, the newish. Now, He really, they formed back in 1978. They were the first 80s and new wave band to really hit kind of back in the early 80s. You know, they were kind of one of the first ones. He made, I think the reason they hit is because he was so out there. He got really famous. He's the one who brought new wave because of his hairstyle. He had this like really blonde hair and it was flat in the middle and kind of hung down in his eyes.

37:19 Then on the sides, it stood up. It doesn't matter. Wasn't he. Was he the guy that was the hair... He was a hairdresser, wasn't he? Before he got, like, his break? I think so. Yeah, I think that makes sense. It's like, best with my own hair. So anyway, but it doesn't matter anymore because he's completely bald. Now, he's 69. He was born in Beverly, England. Now, he.... Like I said, they still perform and all that, but they pretty much stay over there in the UK and that whole area. Now, he had one child from his first wife, married his fourth wife in 2012. Now, you're probably wondering, how did they get that name Flock of Seagulls?

38:03 That's actually really boring. They combined a punk song with the book Jonathan Livingston's Seagull. Good enough, we never cared. Brian adams i'm sure you've heard of him yep 67 born in kingston canada sold over 100 million records he's actually knighted he is sir brian adams actually now he started off singing professionally when he was 15 he took over lead for the band the glam band called sweeney todd their lead singer nick gilder left and so he was on then he went solo in 1980 cuts like a knife i run you summer of 69 Have you ever really loved a woman? I think that might be one of the most boring songs of all time, even though it's his biggest hit. He must not believe in marriage because he's been with his girlfriend since 2009, and they have two daughters. Now, Brian, he is two years older, but he did go to high school with Michael J. Fox.

39:19 There you go. Probably be a pretty good talent. Well, no, I don't... No, that wouldn't be a good talent show. You just have... Michael, I guess he'd go up and pretend like he's alex keaton or something but there you go actress tatum o'neill she's 63 she's born in los angeles her famous dad was actor ryan o'neill now tatum she is the youngest person ever to win an academy award she won a best supporting actress in her very first movie it was called paper moon she was 10 years old She co-starred with her dad. He didn't win squat. Some of the movies you might know that follow, Bad News Bears, Little Darlings, International Velvet. She married tennis player John McEnroe for eight years. They had two sons and one daughter. She's kind of a...

40:03 We won't go there. You're an advocate for mental illness. You could probably diagnose her. Probably. Probably. Okay. One thing we want to let everybody know about just got released a couple of days ago, right? Called the hours between midnight. It's actually, um, when the stars fell. Oh, when the stars fell. But I like that title. I might use that for the next book. Oh, okay. I thought it was a collection of short stories. Uh-uh. I know what you're talking about. You're talking about, sorry, because no, let me clarify that for everybody who thinks we're both nuts. Okay. So the hours between midnight is a collection.

40:45 Of short stories. That I released on my website for the month of October. They're all like horror based. And then my actual, I don't have a copy in here. My actual physical book, which is book two in the age of God series, when the stars fell actually just came out on Tuesday. Okay, so we're... We're both right. Well, people are just laughing. They're going, oh my God, Jeff actually did some research and he was wrong. You are correct. Okay, so let's hit both those ups. So the short story, as you said, they're all whore? They're all whore-based. They're all kind of... I love... Another author I love is Edgar Allan Poe. So I thought for the month of October, I would write a series of short stories and just put them up on my website.

41:37 And if people wanted to read them, they could read them. So they're very different. There's one about. um possessed teeth uh there's one about a girl whose father it's basically like a frankenstein story but because he's brought her back to life with body parts from criminals she starts to behave like a criminal um. Yeah stuff like that. Well that's cool okay go ahead and tell everybody about the newest your second book in that series The. Second book, yeah. So, like I said before, Age of Gods is the prequel series. It's the origin story. To The Veil. It addresses how The Veil came into existence, who created it, how The Veil ends up where it's at in the beginning of Legends of The Veil. The first book, when the gods wept, Specifically addresses the creation, the establishment of four demigod siblings that essentially are set up to rule over the Vale. The second book, When the Stars Fell, deals with kind of the consequences of the choices these siblings.

42:51 Make in the first book. Is there going to be a third? There's going to be a third. I'm working on it right now. And there'll probably be a fourth. Okay. But then you like Star Wars and then you go back and do like a post prequel. Exactly. Exactly. We're going to do four, five and six. Then we're going to do one, two and three. And then we're going to do seven, eight, nine. There you go. Keep you busy. At least as long as the kids are home, right? Then you can go. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Like I said, make sure you check out her books. They're really good. And I'm kind of interested in that horror thing. That sounds good. Yeah.

43:32 I don't know. So anything else we want to tell everybody to go out and buy? Uh, no, just, just my books. And if you don't like fantasy, the, uh, the historical fiction piece that I wrote is available. That's called The Rock and the Wind. And then I've also written a children's book about adoption, which is like a fiction, a fiction piece about adoption, um, called Let the Magic Grow. And that's actually a really good gift for Christmas because it takes place at Christmas time. Cool. There you go. Now you have, she's... Say we're helping you with your Christmas gifts already and we're not eating just past Halloween. There you go.

44:14 Do you do book signings? I do do book signings, yeah. In fact, that's probably one of my favorite things to do. I like interacting with people who are actually reading my things or at least buying my books. You don't have to read it, but if you buy it, that'd be great. Do you get some weird questions? I mean, is there a character, let's say, that you wrote in the book And then the people read it and they totally missed what you were doing. And he's kind of like, what are you talking about? Well, this guy.... I think, well, okay. So I have, just because of the people that I know in my immediate circumference, a lot of them are very conservative-minded. And the fantasy world as it is in the book industry now, so like the Accord of Thorns and Roses is really big.

45:08 Fourth Ring is really big. Those books are. very spicy romance, um, explicit in some areas. I've, my fantasy is, is, is tamer than that. And because I know my audience and a lot of my audience is, is on the more conservative side. Not that there's not romance and hot brooding dudes running around. Um, But it's just not as graphic. And so a lot of people that I've interacted with are very much like they see the depictions, the renderings I do of my characters.

45:48 And they're still hot brooding men. They're just not as active, I guess. And so one of the questions I always get is, okay. So who are they going to hook up with? And what's going to happen? And da-da-da-da-da. And I'm like, well, you're going to have to read the book to find out. But that always, my poor mother, that always distresses my poor mother. One of the first things she said when the first book came out, Child of Dawn, she was appalled that I had satanic vampires as my main character. And that's just ridiculous. I can't believe that you would do that. You have such a conservative upbringing and this is just satanic. And then she read the book and she loved them. And she actually got mad at me because of the choices I made with the main vampire character.

46:39 She didn't like them. So she developed an opinion about my satanic vampire. It's really funny. So I think. You're going to pull your mom into that world. That's awesome. I know. It's great. I've been corrupting her. Yeah. And it's been surprising because people who I thought would just be, you know, I can't believe you'd write about vampires or magic or witchcraft or romance are actually like some of my biggest fans. It's just like, yes, I'm bringing you to the dark side. Might get a couple of weird looks at the PTA meeting, but okay.

47:21 Oh yeah. Well, I get those anyways. So whether they read your book or not. Yeah. It's just, it just goes with the territory. Okay. Leslie, you've been awesome, man. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. This has been a blast. Okay. And so we're going to end with the quote of the day. It comes from a mathematician named James Clark Maxwell. He died today in 1879. He's 48 years old. but his quote is more of a writer than it is from a mathematician. Maxwell says, anyone who thinks the sky is the limit has a limited imagination. Ah, that's a good one. All right. Thank you all for listening. And like I said, make sure you check out, we'll get links and everything. So you'll be able to get ahold of her stuff and don't forget the adoption for your Christmas stocking books and all that kind of stuff.

48:08 Yeah, there you go. Okay. We're going to end with our country and around radio artists of the day. I have an internet radio station. It's called Country Underground Radio. And it plays the top indie artists, country artists. Actually, they're better than the regular artists, almost. Valid. You're probably not wrong. Okay, this comes from Dani, D-A-N-I, in Houston. So I'm assuming she wants to hear Elena Frazier's song, Uptown Country. You guys have an awesome day, and we'll talk tomorrow. Going uptown and we finna get stuck Got money on my mind so we finna turn it up Cause baby you know we're going up We're going uptown country Uptown country Going up, we're going up, we're going uptown.

49:10 We goin' uptown, country, uptown, country. We goin' up, we goin' up. We goin' uptown. We goin' up, we goin' up. We goin' uptown. I came uptown for so much more. I ain't leavin' in town.

49:55 Going on.