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Hi everyone, I am Jeff and welcome to History and Factor.
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It's about today now Today's show. It might save someone's
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life or it might make their fight a lot easier.
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September it's Prostate cancer Awareness Month, So to kick things off,
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I have a very special guest guest today. She's a
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podcaster prostate cancer advocate. She has her own website and
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all kinds of stuff. Liz, why don't you just introduce yourself.
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I'm Elizabeth Jordan and I'm the author of Empower Your Journey,
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a prostate cancer guidebook, and my husband Daniel co authored
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it with me. The book came about after Daniel was
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diagnosed with prostate cancer in twenty twenty three. We had
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no idea about the early symptoms anything like that, and
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he was in stage two B, which looking back at
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his white blood count cells, we traced it back to
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twenty twenty one, so if we caught it then it
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would have been a lot easier. But we coerced this
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book together, and Daniel gives his own personal account of
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being diagnosed with cancer and what it felt like, how
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the treatments went, and I give my personal view of
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what I went through with seeing him go through it
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he went through the five stages of grief, and so
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did people around him, like his family. It deals deeper
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into the psych psychiatric, emotional, mental aspects of it and
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not just the treatment plan and things like that. It
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talks about us telling other people that he did have
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cancer and how we chose to do that. Out of
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this book became a project. We had no idea that
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so many men would go to their cancer treatment alone,
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and we would ask him, you know, why are you
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here alone? Where is your wife or your girlfriend or
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your children? And these men were like, well, you know,
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they had a lunch with the girlfriends or this, that
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or the other, and radiation takes maybe six or eight minutes.
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And it really disturbed me why men do not get
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the recognition that they need for being strong through going
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through a cancer diagnosis. So that led to the project
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of the Celebration of Men Bell Ringing Ceremony, and it's
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going to be on September twentieth, and it's to celebrate
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men who are going through cancer, men who are survivors
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and sadly the ones that we've lost. So then that
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led into our website, which I'll give that address later,
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and it also led into our podcasts. Why so serious
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with Elizabeth and Daniel?
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Well, that was pretty insightful for you, because I mean
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you're right, not only are men it's not so good
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about actually going to the doctor when they should. But
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then there's really no support structure in most men's families
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from when they have to do actually go through it.
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Most of them don't have somebody like you.
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I mean, we made these littles with glowing the dark
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blue bead and we gave them out to the men.
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We didn't care what kind of cancer they had if
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they were there, you know, they had cancers going through
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treatment at the cancer center. And I have never had
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so many men hug me crying because we said, you know,
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little bead in the dark height, you know, not on
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And that was that was the thing we need. We
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need to change the way the world thinks about men
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and their strength that it takes to go through cancer.
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That is definitely for sure, and we're going to talk
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about that throughout the show. Well, we just got done
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with the three day weekend. Here it's September the second.
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You know we're going to celebrate today?
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Uh no, what are we? Oh? National ear Piercing Day.
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It's National pierce your ear's day.
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Hey, I was closed.
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Now now I actually haven't done it, but that's what
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I imagine what it would be like to get my ear sperienced.
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I'm assuming your ears are probably piers I do.
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I have two holes in each ear and I have
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my belly button beers.
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Okay, now they was not fun. Bet not. Now they've
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been piercing the ears back thousands of years, it's been
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didn't even start anywhere, It started randomly all over the world.
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The Egyptians, the Romans, Simba warriors in Africa, Native American
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Indians and North America Maya Aztec. Yeah, they all pierced
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theres that five thousand year olds frozen mummy OTSI yeah,
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even at Is. There's peers that they found in the
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French Alps and he's five thousand years old.
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So wow.
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Now, some people they pierced their ears, you know, for
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status or wealth. Some of them are honoring their cultures,
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some do it just for fashion. Some people pierced their
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ears just because they got drunk. So so, how old
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were you when you pierced two years I was sixteen, Okay,
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that seems about the right age. What do you think
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it's too young. I think little kids get in there
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as piers as we too early.
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I think babies are too early. You'll see like three
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month old babies with peris DearS. And I don't really
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agree with that because it's it's not something that's pleasant, right.
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All right, So out there if you month, since we
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got through the three day weekend, so you're it might
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be a little not wanting any food or any drink,
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so hey, go get your ears pierced, all right, exactly
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this I got entertainment on step there. In the second
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back to nineteen eighty four number one album was Purple
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Rain by Prince Tina Turner had the number one song
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with What's love got to do with it? You must
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try to nor, adding.
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Mean mother, what love start to do?
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What love? What a suck any motion? What love? Stop
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to do it?
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Now?
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The number one country songs by Old Dolly Parton. She
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had the number one hit Tennessee Homesick Blues.
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Again Well for a little any taste this Holy Chocolate Jell.
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The number one book was First among Equals by Jeffrey
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Archer Todd. Million was Typerope Kent eastwid He is a
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New Orleans cop and he is chasing a serial killer
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and then the tables get turned. Now the serial killer
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is chasing Clinton. Do you ever see that one?
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No, I don't think so.
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I don't think I have you. Since we were talking
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about entertaining, well this isn't really. Yeah, sure it is entertainment.
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Where can people get your book? Where can people get
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your book? We'll talk about it, we'll put it on
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the day's notes too, But they want to get that book.
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Where can they get it for them or their loved ones?
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Yeah?
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True, I know that.
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I know.
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You get your book on Amazon, right.
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Yeah, it's on Amazon Books a million. Oh, it is
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out there everywhere. It's in stores in England, all across
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the UK, poland just route everywhere.
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It's cool, alright.
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And it's called Empower Your Journey, a Prostate Cancer Guidebook
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by Elizabeth Jordan and Daniel Jordan.
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All right, exactly. It might not sound like a bit.
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It was a book actually done out of love, your
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love for him.
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Yes it is, yes it is, and people are listening.
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Daniel's doing really good.
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Yeah, he did really good through it. He had sad
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times where he wrote letters to everyone, including me, his parents,
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his best friend, saying if I don't make it through this.
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I want you to know these things. And he told
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me about it, and that that kind of scared me
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because I didn't want him in that mindset. I wanted
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them in the mindset of we're going to beat this right.
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And you know, his friend called and asked me and
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he said, you know, what is with him calling And
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it sounds like he's saying goodbye. I said, he's scared.
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And that's every guy who gets that diagnosis is.
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Yeah, exactly. It's horrifying to hear.
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All right, had happened in the world. On September the second,
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sixteen sixty six, the Great Fire of London began burning.
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Thomas Farner he was a baker. Now he supplied the
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bread to the Royal Navy and he personally baked for
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King Charles the Second, so his house and the bakery
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were attached to each other. They actually lived on Putting Lane.
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So oh wow. Now his ovens were always on, you know,
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because in the morning was a lot easier than trying
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to fire up those because then, of course they weren't
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like gas real then they were all wood burning. So
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he kept them running online. Well, on this day, two
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pm or two am in the morning, the oven shot
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out a spark. It caught the bakery and then burned
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his whole house down. Now the family they were able
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to skate out an upstairs window. Sadly, the maid, yeah
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she was living downstairs. She didn't make it out. Now
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the choir fire, it quickly spread to all the neighbors.
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Houses end up burning for four days. Eighty percent of
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London was burned to the ground. Of the eighty thousand
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people who lived there at that time, seventy thousand were homeless. Surprisingly,
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only six people died. That was including the maid. Now
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medieval London, if you know what that was like, it
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was a crap. It was horrible. I mean, it was
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just it was gross, disgusting, filthy. The river that runs
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through it it was nothing but ross sewage, and it
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was the streets were discovered in trash and animal poop
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and all that kind of stuff. But all everything there
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for that fire. It burned it all up, so it
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took clear of it. So sadly, the six people died,
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but other than that, the city was able to just
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start all over brand new. They redesigned the city who
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had fire breaks, and they had a sewer system installed
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and the river they caught fire with all that sewage,
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burned it up. That river hadn't been that clean over
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one hundred years.
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All right, let's stay over in Great Britain seventeen fifty two. Now,
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all of Great Britain, all of its colonies around the world,
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they went to the j from the Julian calendar to
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the Gregarian calendar. That's what we used today. So basically
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all over the UK, Britain, Wales, Ireland, here in the
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United States down to the Caribbean islands, they all went
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from today to September fourteenth, you know. That's how they
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lined up with the new calendar. Well rioting and now
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with this one though actually January first was now actually
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the beginning of the year before then March twenty fifth
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was actually New Year's then. Wow, I know. But now
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the people didn't like that though. People across the entire
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British Empire, here in the States, Caribbean, everywhere they righted.
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They actually believed that the British government had stolen eleven
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days from their life.
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Wow. Okay. In eighteen o seven, Napoleon from France was
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raising hell all over Europe. In Denmark, who was preparing
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to surrender to him. When the British Navy suddenly showed
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up in Copenhagen, the Danes were ecstatic. They couldn't believe
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that England had come to save them. The British warship
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started firing their cannon balls, firebombs, phosphorus bombs and everything
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that they had. The British Navy saint the entire day
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Danish Navy. England didn't want Napoleon to take over all
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of the ships, so they come and help them. In
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nineteen oh one, Theodore Roosevelt was giving a speech at
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the Minnesota State Fair when he gave one of the
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most famous quotes in American history. It was about foreign policy,
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and the quote was speak softly and carry a big stick,
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and you'll go far. They didn't answer, oh, excuse me.
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They didn't always name hurricanes after people's names. In nineteen
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thirty five, they called it the Labor Day Hurricane. It
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hit Florida Today as a Category five hurricane, it's still
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the strongest and most intense hurricane to hit the US.
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Luckily it wasn't a very populated area, but sadly, four
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hundred and thirty two people still perish that day.
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I know you're not on the coast, but you're still
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in Georgia. Do you have to deal with hurricanes very often?
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Not very often? Sometimes we get tornadoes off of it.
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We did. Our hurricane opal years ago did come up
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this far. It was ripping siding off people's houses and
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things like that, and it was really scary, but it
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wasn't as bad as some of the tornadoes that we've had.
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Oh, that's the worst part.
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On and yeah, that's the worst part. Right.
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Nineteen forty four, our future president, George HW. Bush, that
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was the deck. Now, he was a Navy pilot during
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World War Two. Today his plane got all shot up
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and caught fire as he's doing a bombing run over
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the Pacific Ocean. Now, of course, he parachuted out. He
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bobbed in the water for about four hours. Then a
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submarine called the Finnback rescued him. So George was fine,
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but he had to spend a whole month on the
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Finback before they could get him to his regular ship.
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Nineteen forty four or nineteen forty five, on board the
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battleship the Missouri, Japan officially surrendered, signed his papers. World
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War Two was officially over. That not far away over
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in Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh. He declared his Vietnam's independence