June 30, 2026

From Hollywood to Moët Hennessy: Danielle Frank on Wine, Parenting, Career Pivots & Finding Joy

From Hollywood to Moët Hennessy: Danielle Frank on Wine, Parenting, Career Pivots & Finding Joy

Can wine teach us something about parenting—and about life? This week on The Running Wine Mom, Samantha sits down with author, former Hollywood publicist, and Moët Hennessy executive Danielle Frank to discuss career pivots, resilience, luxury...

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Can wine teach us something about parenting—and about life?

This week on The Running Wine Mom, Samantha sits down with author, former Hollywood publicist, and Moët Hennessy executive Danielle Frank to discuss career pivots, resilience, luxury branding, and why humor might be one of the greatest parenting tools of all.Although Danielle isn't a parent herself, her bestselling book, A Wine Lover's Guide to Parenting, offers a refreshingly funny and surprisingly insightful perspective on raising kind, resilient children. Drawing from years in the wine industry and her experience as the beloved "Aunt Danielle," she explores how wine terminology can become memorable lessons for parenting—and for life.The conversation also dives into Danielle's remarkable career journey from Miramax to Moët Hennessy, leaving behind a toxic work environment, embracing life's unexpected pivots, and learning that success isn't about perfection—it's about finding alignment.Whether you're a wine lover, a parent, or simply someone navigating change, this episode is filled with humor, wisdom, and practical life lessons you'll want to savor. In This Episode🍷 Danielle's favorite wine from a recent trip to Spain🎬 What Hollywood taught her about storytelling🍾 The surprising similarities between luxury brands and parenting❤️ Why leaving the "wrong" relationship changed her life📖 The inspiration behind A Wine Lover's Guide to Parenting💼 Transitioning from Miramax to a 22-year career in wine🥂 Working behind the scenes at Moët Hennessy✨ Why pivots often lead us where we're meant to be😂 The hilarious parenting lessons hidden inside wine terminology🍇 Why humor can help parents survive the hardest daysMemorable Quotes"Sometimes the most empowering decision is acknowledging that the job, relationship, or version of life you're clinging to is costing you peace.""When you're in the trenches of parenting, it's hard to see the humor—but sometimes that's exactly what you need.""Storytelling isn't about selling a product. It's about creating emotion.""We don't have one yellow brick road in life. There are lots of paths to Oz."Mentioned in This Episode

  • A Wine Lover’s Guide to Parenting
  • Moët Hennessy
  • Miramax
  • Bacardi
Connect with Danielle FrankConnect with Samantha🌐 Website: The Running Wine Mom📸 Instagram: @therunningwinemom_🎙️ New episodes every TuesdayIf You Loved This Episode...Please subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with another parent (or wine lover!) who could use a reminder that life doesn't have to be perfect to be meaningful.Cheers! 🍷
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So teachers kids and manners and to have some heart

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and soul. Without that, your kid may well turn into

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an a hole.

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I know, it's just so funny. Welcome back to the

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Running Wine Mom podcast. I'm your host, Samantha Sleinsky aka

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the Running Wine Mom. Today we have Danielle Frank, former

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Hollywood publicist turned wine and spirits storyteller, author of A

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Wine Lover's Guide to Parenting, and a strategist at Moay Hennessy.

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We will talk about how Hollywood shaped her approach to

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luxury brands, why wine is the perfect lens for parenting wisdom,

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the rituals every parent should steal, and the funny, tender

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stories behind the book. So, without further ado, let's welcome Danielle.

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Welcome, Thank you, thanks for having me on your fabulous podcast.

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Yes, when I got the email from you, I was like,

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excuse me, A Wine Lover's Guide to Parenting?

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Like is that me?

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Thing could be more perfect? So thank you for sharing it.

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I'm excited to talk about it.

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It's going to be a fun time. Yeah. Before we

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get into the book.

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To start each episode, we have our Wine, Wine and

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One of the Week segment. That is where we share

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our favorite bottle of wine, then about something that's been

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bothering us, and celebrate our recent victory. So grab a

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by 's take a deep breath and let's get started. So, Danielle,

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what is your drinking wine of the week.

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Well, I'm gonna and this is going to sound this

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is not my everyday life people, so don't think of this.

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But I literally just got back from a trip in

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Spain with my best friend to celebrate her fiftieth birthday.

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So I'm going to say that my wine of the

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week was this bottle that we got in Rioha. We

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stayed at this amazing frank Erie designed hotel called the

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Marquis de Riscal, and they have a winery and we

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had the most delicious wine there. It was just a

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whole experience of it all. So I'm going to say

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the Marquis de Riscal Reserva from Rioha twenty twenty one.

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It's just evoking memories of my trip that I just

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got back off of, and that leads me into my

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wine of the week is that I just came off

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holiday seas in Spain and now it's back to reality,

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back to work. So I am I'm going to whine

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a little bit about that.

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And it's perfectly fine too, because like post vaca depression,

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you just are like off for a couple of days.

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You're like, what I was just in this like beautiful

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place and now I'm just back to grinding on work.

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Yeah, vacation blues is a thing, but a win.

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And again this is gonna sound like I lead like

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the most glamorous life, but it's just so happens, and

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it's like this is like coming after one after another.

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But I just booked a trip to London because I

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just got invited to the Royal Ascot event. So that's

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a win because now I have another trip to look

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forward to get me out of my post vacation slump.

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And when is that going to be? That is in June? Okay,

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how exciting. Yeah, that seems super exciting.

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So I always like to ask my guests, what is

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one significant challenge you've successfully navigated shaping your journey to

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where you are today?

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one significant challenge. I mean my life has been sort

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of rooted in transformation, you know, uprooted my life from

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New York to la I did a major career pivot

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from the entertainment industry to wine industry. I had a

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life pivot breaking up with my fiance because I realized

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that the life I thought I was going to happen,

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including the path to motherhood, he was not interested in.

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ultimately he didn't want more kids. So my whole life

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is sort of rooted in transformation. And that's what I

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love being on these podcasts and talking about is shining

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a light on is embracing these pivots because I've learned

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it can really lead you onto a new path that

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maybe you were meant to be on all along.

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who are maybe like comfortab and doing well in their

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positions that they are to kind of go like which

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we'll talk about it, but going from you know, something

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in you went to two totally different kind of paths,

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of those paths is something that I think people don't

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realize that that can happen. So I'm excited to talk

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about that with you. But before we do, we talk

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a little fitness. What's your favorite way to stay active.

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I am. I always need to be active.

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do boxing. Okay, so I rotate between the three.

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the three or you just are you like all of them?

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berries I don't like.

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I'm getting old and I never liked running, so I

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do they do like predominantly lift classes, right, I do

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those instead of like the half run half lift. And

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as you get older, I'm turning fifty two in two weeks.

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joying the lift classes. Like certain days, I like back

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back in arms, so I don't like doing the legs.

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I love Plate's reforms so much. It's like the hardest

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but best thing. And what do you think? How do

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you think maintaining your fitness routine aligns with your mental health?

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it's really working out your body, really exercises my mind.

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of like working my body really works my brain.

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a drug, you know.

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I mean even just even on vacation for two weeks,

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I'm not gonna pactinates and I'm there to enjoy.

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It's like just moving your body. That's you know, moving

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your body really moves my brain.

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I love that. All right, well let's get into you.

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You have your book. I have it right here, A

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Wine Lover's Guide to Parenting.

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It reads like a bedtime story for the exhausted adults,

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which I thought was so fun. It's great, it's an awesome,

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clever concept, but underneath there is real perspective in it.

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What inspired you to write a parenting book as someone

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who you you weren't a mom when you wrote the book.

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Yeah, and I'm still while I'm a dog mom, so Burt,

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cover your ears.

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No, I'm not a mommy.

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You know, as I said, you know, the path to

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motherhood sadly didn't happen for me, but you know, the

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nurturing doesn't go away. And I was a bonus mom

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to my ex's kids for many, many years. I'm an

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aunt to my niece nephew, but I am aunt Danielle

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to many and many of.

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My friend's kids.

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I love it, so, you know, as as that unofficial ante,

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I sort of get the best seat in the house,

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right I get to witness the chaos, the triumphs, and

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the tantrums, but I get to do it with a

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glass of.

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Wine and no carpool duty.

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College, but you know, from the sidelines, you know, I

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can cheer, laugh, and it gives me sort of a

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lighter lens to see parenthood with a cumuric compassion. And

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sometimes I can see, you know, it gives me the

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lens to see it because sometimes when parents are so

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deep in it, it's hard to see just the humor

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in it all, you know, And I see it with

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fresh eyes, and you know, as I said, sometimes parents

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are a little too deep into it and I've listened

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to parents trade war stories like battle heartened soldiers on

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the field, and sometimes when you're in the trenches, it's

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not as easy to see that you can turn brape

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juice into wine, you know. And coupled with my years

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of working in the wine and spirits industry for over

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twenty two years, it was easy for me to take.

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A step back and see that just the fun pair

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of else to it all.

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trenches with an almost four year old and a five

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year old. Sometimes you do you have to like step

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back and you're like, is this really a big deal

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in the grand scheme of you know, let's just relax

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I'm much more relaxed with that. Absolutely.

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be a parent to a good behavior and human beings right,

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like all the lessons as you've seen, it's basic common

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you know, behaviors and decency right, teaching kids, manners, teaching

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kid you know, to letting them breathe, to be worldly,

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you know, to be open minded, like all these things

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are just basic human to behavior. So I'm not coming

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at it from a place of you know, I'm an expert,

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I've studied, I'm a plot.

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It's like coologies or anything like that.

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It's just from a place of, you know, even though

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the path to motherhood didn't happen to me, for me,

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I'm still invested in wanting to see the next generation

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and the generation after that still being raised well because

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as you know, we kind of need it right now.

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So true. Yeah.

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Now, in addition to being an author, you started in

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film publicity at Miramax, and you later pivoted into wine

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and spirits. Tell me about Tell everyone, tell the listeners

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about the pivot. What scared you, what thrilled you, and

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what from Hollywood changed your wine career forever.

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So, you know, I started, as you said, at Miramax,

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and I thought I'd be in the entertainment industry forever,

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something just I always wanted to do. Again, It's sort

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of that like life pivot thing. Like you when you're younger,

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you think you know what you want to do, and

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it was great. I mean I was in my twenties

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traveling the world, going to this film can Film Festival, Venice, Berlin,

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you know, running around Europe on you know, as a

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twenty something year old living in New York City and

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it was great.

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And then I decided to move to LA and there were.

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No studio jobs, so I worked for a personal PR firm,

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you know, representing the talent directly, and I just part

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of me just knew that wasn't my journey. But I

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was ready to leave New York. I was ready to

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leave Miramax. So it just got me out here.

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Remember, you know this, when I went into the company

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that I went to, it was also a very toxic environment.

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And I remember the first day I showed up and

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like three of the publicists were in their office like

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crying and and.

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Just personal pr is just I don't know, it's not

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for me.

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I just remember, like in all my years at Miramax,

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six years or so, like there was never you know,

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of course, there's days you're like, eh, I don't feel

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like going to work, I'm a little hungover whatever, which

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it was the weekend. There was never a day where

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I had that like pit in my stomach. And when

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I was working at this PR firm, there were in

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three months, there were days that I was like, I

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just this is the worst feeling.

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I don't want to go in the office. And that

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was sort of opening for me. What a horrible feeling

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this is to have, you know, we spend most of

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our time at work.

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What an awful feeling this is to like have that

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angst in your gut, in your stomach. And you know,

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some of that comes with naivety. I was like twenty

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nine years old, so I didn't have responsibilities.

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I didn't have a house, I didn't have anything.

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having another job, and I fell into this role in

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why is Spheares? I thought it'd be temporary, and here

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i am twenty two years later, even though I'm only

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twenty one, and I know it's wild, but yeah, you know.

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And then I realized that sometimes the most empowering decision

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is acknowledging that the job, the relationship. That's why I

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broke up my That's also why I felt empowered to

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break up with my fiance when I realized how unhappy

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This job, relationship or version of the life that you

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are clinging to is costing you peace. You know, that

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was really defining for me. And you know, when we

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pause long enough to listen to those pivots can become

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invitations and you know, not endings, and it can lead

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us to work into lives that, certainly for me, feels

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more aligned, honest, and fulfilling.

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people my age right now, including myself, are like at

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this like pivot stage where it's like you've maybe been

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in your job or position for fifteen plus years and

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then you're like, all right, I.

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But I feel like everyone that I talk to who's

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like made the leap is like, I'm so much happier

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on the other side of things, which is like pretty

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nice to hear.

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I love that.

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I mean, I've just always been a proponent of like

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we have one life to live, you know, it's like

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I want to do with it. I want to do

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everything and anything that I possibly can within legal limits. Right,

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you know, and because you know, I just want this

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to be the happiest life, you know. And of course

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it's easier than done right, Like, it's not so easy

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to quit a job and just get another job. But

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you also don't know until you try and put yourself

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out there and you know, no one's saying you have

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to quit, and you know, but start exploring the things

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that you want to do, start exploring the things that

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make you happy, because you know, yeah, we don't live

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an infinite life, so might as well.

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Do what you can. I love that.

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And you speaking of living great lives, have lived inside

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worlds most people only see on screens. Hollywood, luxury brands,

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lead events. What's something about that world that would genuinely

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surprise a lot of the moms listening right now? Who

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are you know, right past bedtime or living in not

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the luxury world.

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At the moment.

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Yeah, what might surprise people most is how normal it

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all is behind the scenes. You know, the glamour is real,

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but it's leading and you know, most of the times

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it's long hours, it's logistics, it's problem solving. So it's

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sort of the same emotional dynamics that moms are dealing

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with all the time, right, you know, ego and right

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pretty juggling.

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Priorities that exists at every level.

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And you know, just with you know, Hollywood and the

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windustry is all just dressed up in better lighting, that's all.

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Yeah. I love that.

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That's a great and that does make it normalize that,

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like your feelings at whatever you're doing right now in motherhood,

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people can be feeling those same feelings even though it's

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not the same experience in any walk of life, which

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is something I think we also forget as well.

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Yeah, it's like the world of Instagram too, right, It's

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like everybody posts like what you want and to see it,

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you know, That's why. I mean, I know people get

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enamored with like Hollywood, and of course it's like you

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see people on the big screen.

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But you know, I always say, like they're people just

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like every one of us.

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Like they you know, you know, they eat like we do.

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They you know, they go to the bathroom like we do.

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enamored with who we think what they are and who

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we want them to be or.

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A character that they played. But you know, some are nice,

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some aren't nice. Just like people on the street, you know,

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just like friends and all that.

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There are human beings and it doesn't make them better

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than any one of us, that's for sure.

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Yeah, I love that.

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Can you walk us through a red carpet memory that

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maybe shaped how you communicate with people and tell me

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whether that same approach would work when you're selling a

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bottle of champagne to a five star hotel.

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You know, I can't recall like a particular red carpet moment.

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I would just say, like generally, the overall industry, right,

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it's all about storytelling, that's everything. It's about bringing someone

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into the story, into the experience, romanticizing the moment. And

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that's what I've used, you know, in all aspects of

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my life, and that's what I carried over into the

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wine and spirits industry. It's it's the same thing I'm

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selling a brand, I'm selling a story. I'm selling the history,

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the heritage of you know, Madame Clico. How she was

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you know, technically the first female entrepreneur and taking over

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her husband's winery when he passed, which was unheard of,

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and how she you know, transformed the wine industry, creating

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the first or all these things. It's it's all about

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creating a story and then all about creating romanticism of

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like you know what the wine does for you, and

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you know, even for the consumer, it's she doesn't have

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to be jarring. It's it's just it's about evoking emotion.

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Where were you when you first enjoyed your glass of

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wine or the memory you have of having your first

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sip of Moet and Chandan or Don Perry Newon And yeah,

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it's all about storytelling, which I love, you know, translates

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into why I love writing as well.

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Yeah, I know.

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And as you're I'm like, you are really good at

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storytelling because I'm thinking of all of these things as

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your I'm like, my gosh, I love that. That's like,

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you know, woman based and I can remember my first

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lass of you know.

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I just I love all of that. That's really cool

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and I need to get better at doing that. I

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feel like myself. As a side note, but you know,

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your great, this good podcast. Thank you.

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I was thinking though, I was like, I just like

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talking to different people online, like putting it together a

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lot of times I feel like I stumble with my

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wording of what I actually do in this space and

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I'm like, so many people can storytell so much better

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than I can. I feel like when having a conversation

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and you know, that was just kind of the perfect example.

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I'm like, I wish I was good at that, but no,

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you're great at it, and you know what, that's that's

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the beauty. I love a podcast.

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I've been doing so many with that promoting this book,

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and that's my It's been my favorite medium because I

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mean as a listener, I love podcasts because it's all

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organic conversation, right right, it's two people talking. That's what

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I like to hear because perfect so nobody's a perfect story,

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that's for sure.

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I know. I'm like, it's just a structured conversation for podcasting.

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When people get nervous coming on, I'm like, it's it's

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all good. It's just me having the questions that have

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a certain topic. But I love to talk, so like,

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I'm good with asking all the questions. But back to

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you talking. Your book uses eleven playful lessons. How do

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you choose which wine terms to pair with which parenting truths?

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And pairing That.

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Surprised you when it clicked, which was something that I

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thought was so cool. The wine terms that were paired

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with the parenting shows. How did you pick those?

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So, well, it all started. I was watching my niece

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and nephew. This is about fourteen years ago, wrote this book.

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You can imagine it's hard to, you know, bring your

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baby to fruition. And I was watching my niece and

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nephew and they were young at the time maybe now

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they're in college, and they were great kids.

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But of course every kid is the propensity to wine.

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And I was like, uh uh, Auntyanielle dreswine.

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She doesn't listen to wine.

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And that's when the idea first came to me, so,

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you know, and right at the same time as well,

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a book came out by Adam Mansmach called Go the

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f to Sleep.

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I'm sure you're.

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Familiar with that, yes, yeah. It started open this window

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to this new genre of adult children's book and so

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I love that because I love to rhyme. And then

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so I just sort of had this The wheel started turning,

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and I had this idea of like, I wouldn't it

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be great, you know, especially somebody in the wine and

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spirits industry. I love making wine knowledge accessible and easy,

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you know, learning about why I shouldn't be jarring. It

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shouldn't be you know, daunting. I wanted to be fun

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and easy, and so I started to think about, you know,

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how it could apply to human behavior talking about parenting.

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Every time I use wine terminology gives the definition.

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So yeah, I started thinking about it sort of, it's

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sort of one hand in hand, right, started thinking about

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what behaviors do you want to talk about, right, like

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teaching kids manners, letting kids breathe. But then I started

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thinking about wine terms that I could use as well.

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Also started email wine terms that rhyme. Well, right, you

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don't see me using in the book at all, the

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word oneology, which is the study because there's not a

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lot of stuff that Ryan's are down. But yeah, so

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I just started thinking about that. But I think, like,

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you know, pairing that surprised me. I clicked and you know,

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is the plan where it's like i'll probably read this

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chapter later on, is is the one about you don't

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want your kids to ferment? So I really just started

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to think about, like the fermentation process is when you

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turn sugar into alcohol, Well, sugar something sweet.

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Alcohol is something you know, we think of as harsh

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in biting.

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So I just did sort of that play on words,

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and oh that can work with like, you don't want

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your kids turning from something sweet into ones that are

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harsh inbiting because they don't have manners, so right, you know,

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I started having fun with that and with like, you know,

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creative license on how we bridge those gaps.

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Yeah, and I love how you make it humorous and

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it can be a pressure valve. But when does joking

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about parenting and drinking kind of risk crivilizing the real struggles,

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like how did you keep the tone respectful while while

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staying funny?

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You know, I think humor works when it is or release,

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when it releases pressure, not when it's just visit. I

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think the line is whether the humor makes someone feel seen.

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And that's always been Michael.

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Right as you know, as I say the ante and

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the bonus mom, it's you know, I want those around

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me to be seen because I am invested in those

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kids' lives that I'm involved with. I'm invested in their

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well being as well. So this sort of was my

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homage to do them and then to everybody else that's

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to top parents.

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You know, I see you, I have tawd you.

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Parentsing is already heavy So the goal isn't a lot trivial,

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is it. It's to give people sort of a moment

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to exhale inside of it and just have a little

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levity with it.

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Yes, we all could use some humoral life, so I

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do that was it was like I was cracking off

464
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at the word. I was like, wow, I never thought

465
00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.960
of it this way or that way. And I'll have

466
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.279
you read a little bit of it in a bit.

467
00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:49.880
But so one thing that I love researching my guests

468
00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:52.480
that are coming on and something that I just like,

469
00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.359
I was like, oh my gosh, she worked at the Hennessy.

470
00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.440
It sounds like such a such a dream. What does

471
00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:02.720
the actual day to day look like for you?

472
00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.400
Yeah, no, it is. I still work there twelve years

473
00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.680
with them. It is dream.

474
00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.319
I feel so lucky, like I was with Bacardi USA

475
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.400
for ten years. I've been coming celebrating my twelve year

476
00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.519
anniversary next month with mahat Hennessy. So blessed to work

477
00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.160
for a fantastic company representing great brands. But yes, I've

478
00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.079
had people ask me, like, you know, when I was

479
00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:27.160
a Bacardi do you drink Bacardi or Greek use all day?

480
00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:30.920
Or you know, do you drink wine all day now, Champaign, No,

481
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.799
we don't. It's a job like it else. I wish

482
00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:36.359
I was getting paid just to sit around and drink something. Yeah,

483
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.000
but no I am. I oversee our resort sub channel.

484
00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.359
So I work with all the hotels at the corporate level,

485
00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:47.279
so for seasons, corporate Marriott, Corporate, Hyatt, Hilton, et cetera.

486
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:48.400
So yeah, it's a.

487
00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.359
Lot of you know these days, you know, on zoom calls,

488
00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.160
doing presentations, presenting in person.

489
00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:58.160
To RFP's business review forecasting.

490
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:00.440
Yeah, so a lot of a lot of the regular

491
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.640
office stuff that that is required for a day job.

492
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:09.000
Less drinking, more more, more, more, power points and zooming.

493
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.559
Well, but you still get the nice maybe bubbly every

494
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:15.680
once in a while, I'm.

495
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:17.759
Sure, yes, yes, which is awesome.

496
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:20.759
I know, it's such a it's when I had my kids,

497
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.240
you know, of course I got a bottle of Moet

498
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.599
like that was for both of them. You know, it's

499
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.400
such a celebratory brand. I feel like, you know, really

500
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:31.880
well known for that, which I just love that. So

501
00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:33.680
that's really cool that you've been with them for so

502
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.519
long and that it's nice to hear that like you're

503
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:39.240
you know, it's with good people that are working there,

504
00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:39.960
which is cool.

505
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:45.920
It's a great company. I'm very fortunate, really really happy there. Yeah.

506
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:50.240
So how does brand storytelling for Champagne or Conyac kind

507
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.200
of compared to telling a story of a family or

508
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:54.759
a child's messy afternoon.

509
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.000
Yeah, if you think about it, I mean, at the core,

510
00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.400
it's actually the same job, right, whether you're telling the

511
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.559
story the shape paying house or chaotic afternoon with the

512
00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.279
tall toddler, you're you know, as I said, storytelling is

513
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.640
about evoking emotions. So you're shaping emotion, you're shaping memory,

514
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.480
you're shaping meaning. I mean, I think the difference is,

515
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:17.079
you know, luxury brands, right, we edit for perfection.

516
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.359
For life, though it's more meaningful because it's.

517
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:25.680
Unedited, all those unedited moments, that's what it's all about.

518
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:28.319
But at the core, it's about, you know, shaping the

519
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:30.119
emotion and the story for sure.

520
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.160
And for the moms listening who maybe feel like wine

521
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.640
is their only break, what's your take on that culture?

522
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:39.880
Do you think it's healthy misunderstood? Do you think it's

523
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:40.680
somewhere in between?

524
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.960
I mean, I certainly think it's healthy. I think I

525
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:46.000
think somewhere in between. I think it's understandable. Right, moms

526
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.400
are carrying a huge mental and emotional load and they're

527
00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:52.920
looking for a moment to decompress. But obviously it can't

528
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.559
be the whole tool toolkit. And that just goes for anybody, right,

529
00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.000
whether you know stressed about anything, you real self care is.

530
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:05.799
About having multiple ways to reset through connection, through boundaries,

531
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:09.359
through alone time, through laughter, not just one go do

532
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.519
at the end of the day. But uh, but you

533
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:13.640
can't beat a nice glass of line, that's for sure.

534
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:17.039
No. And something about the wine world that's pretty cool

535
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.920
is that they it has so many rituals behind it.

536
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.759
Do you have a ritual that you secretly think every

537
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.799
parent should borrow and maybe one that you think that

538
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:26.720
they could leave behind.

539
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.920
Well, I think borrowing not just every parent can use.

540
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.960
I think even I apply this in my daily life

541
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.200
right when, like somebody sends a text I don't like,

542
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.559
or or email and I'm about to fire something off.

543
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.759
All about keeping the pause, the moment before you take

544
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.039
that first step, right where you actually stop, you may breath.

545
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:53.680
The wine parents rarely give themselves that pause, so I

546
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:56.119
think just giving yourself that pause is certainly a ritual

547
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:57.599
worth holding on to.

548
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.960
I think what I'd leave behind is all the rules.

549
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.079
Right, I mean why we say why too, like, oh,

550
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.240
it's supposed to be this class or the right way

551
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.119
or the quote unquote proper way.

552
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.400
To do it. You know, what do what makes you

553
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:11.960
feel good.

554
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:16.480
There's enough pressure without turning relaxation into another thing to

555
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:17.039
get right.

556
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:18.119
You know.

557
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.200
Even when I go to dinner with my friends, and

558
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.160
you know, because I work in the wine industry, they

559
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.920
hand me the wineless. I'm like, no, it's I'm not

560
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.799
a I mean, yes, I work in the windus tree.

561
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.240
But it's all subjective. What I like, you may not like.

562
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.880
There's not one wrong wine like I may like a heavy,

563
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.440
you know, cabernet, and you may want a lighter one

564
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.119
with your big It's all what works for you. We

565
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:41.880
all have different palettes. We all, like I said, it

566
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.559
evokes certain emotions and memories, and you know, we all

567
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:46.559
enjoy different things.

568
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:48.319
So throughout the rule.

569
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.319
Book and I I just recently, I've been up in

570
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:52.920
New York City a lot the last couple of months,

571
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:54.480
and one of the events that I went to was

572
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:57.720
this app for It's called Veno Perte and it's so

573
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:00.440
funny that you're talking about you know, the wine the

574
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.920
wine list, and everybody has different stuff And basically it's

575
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.559
this app you download and everybody you would put in

576
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.200
what you like. I would put in what I like,

577
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.640
and I can scan it and like it would analyze

578
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.799
which wine that I personally would like to get a

579
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.720
glass of wine over a bottle of and then like

580
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:18.920
you know, it would do a different one for you

581
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.920
if if you liked cab and I liked you know, uh,

582
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.640
pino noir. And it's really cool. I've been using it

583
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.039
a lot, especially to buy bottles. I was like, I

584
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:28.680
did not think I was gonna like this as much

585
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:29.400
as I did.

586
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:30.880
But that's fantastic.

587
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.240
Does it does it like if you put in like

588
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.559
something you like, does it make other recommendations of like

589
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:37.319
if you like this, you might like it.

590
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:37.799
Yeah.

591
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:40.960
So once you start using it, it starts to like

592
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.960
know who you like, know about you, and like you'll

593
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:45.319
put like, yes, I liked this.

594
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:46.440
Wine, no I didn't.

595
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.359
And you can even filter it to like pricing for

596
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.680
like under twenty dollars or like thirty to fifty dollars.

597
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:53.839
It's really cool.

598
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.599
Yeah, yeah, say what you will but I is an

599
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:01.079
incredible thing for things like this too, like understanding you

600
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:01.680
and helping.

601
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.160
Like it's remarkable.

602
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.240
There's there's some great applications with it and and that's

603
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.680
I mean, that's fantastic and yeah, and it makes it

604
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:09.319
approachable and.

605
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.839
It makes it fun and that's what it should be. Yeah,

606
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.920
and that's it, and that's what the creator of it was.

607
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:16.640
Like I didn't know anything about wine and I was

608
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.960
in like Italy, in this beautiful little place, and I

609
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.880
just had no idea if I was going to order

610
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.559
a good or bit like I wanted a good glass

611
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:24.200
of wine, but.

612
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.519
I didn't know which one to order.

613
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.680
I made in Europe, I swear you can't get a

614
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.759
bad glass of wine. It's like, I know, like five dollars.

615
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.119
It's like cheaper than getting a soda and it's like

616
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.920
all fantastic, Like anywhere in France or Italy. Oh my god,

617
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.000
I just want to move there.

618
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:43.240
I hear you, I know. And then meanwhile, I was

619
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.839
like Happy Hour fifteen dollars for a glass at New

620
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.279
York City the other day.

621
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:52.799
I'm like, okay, so if a child's tantrum were a

622
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.319
wine fault, what would it be? And what's the best

623
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.519
fix you found parenting or wine for getting past it?

624
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.160
The tantrum is is like a corked wine. It's not

625
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.920
that the whole thing is necessarily bad, it's just temporarily off,

626
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:08.319
a little overwhelming.

627
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.640
I think to fix in both cases as patients, you

628
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:12.880
don't try to overpower it.

629
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:14.279
You don't argue with it.

630
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:16.880
Although it was a little easier if a wine bottle

631
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.160
is quirked, at least that you can.

632
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.359
Throw it away. You don't want to throw as just patience.

633
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.079
And so I kind of want to go to your

634
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.720
career pivot one more time, but often that comes with

635
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.039
imposter feelings. Did you ever feel out of place in

636
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.160
the wine world after coming from pr and how.

637
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.279
Did you kind of navigate that? Yeah, I mean I

638
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.680
think you know, through those pivots.

639
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.359
And also, you know, as I said, first I made

640
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.240
the career pivot, then the relationship you start to you

641
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.039
start to build up your armor of like what you're

642
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.759
taking away from learning about these pivots, and then you know,

643
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.880
so I started to when I made the career pivot

644
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.680
and saw that I landed on this new journey, this

645
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.000
new path that maybe I was meant to be on. Other,

646
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:01.119
you know, all along, it certainly builds your confidence up right.

647
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.079
And so when I realized how unhappy I was in

648
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.960
my relationship and that, you know, my fiance didn't want

649
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:09.799
more kids and this never was going to be a

650
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.039
happy marriage. Because I was had the confidence from the

651
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.759
career pivot and saw how I landed back on my feet,

652
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.799
it gave me the confidence to walk away from that relationship.

653
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.680
And you know, so I've learned that embracing the change

654
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:24.519
isn't failure.

655
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.160
It's it's quite the opposite, you know.

656
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.319
It can you can discover a new journey, discover new

657
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.440
path that maybe permit to be on all along. And

658
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.240
when you dive headfirst into that new path, rather than

659
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.559
in the sadness of what happened, if you embrace it,

660
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.640
it's only going to help repel you forward. So I say,

661
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.799
there's no yellow brick one that leads you to OZ right,

662
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.000
There's lots of different paths along the way. So you know,

663
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.279
when you go one path and onto another, try and

664
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.920
embrace it because there's no going back and you have

665
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.039
to cross that bridge to get over it. So so

666
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.319
and the only way to do that is to look ahead.

667
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:03.640
Mm hmmm.

668
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.160
And what's your proudest micro win or big win from

669
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.160
your time at either Bacardi or Moet or maybe a campaign,

670
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.160
a relationship or bold idea that kind of paid off.

671
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:14.759
Yeah.

672
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.599
I think recently our new CEO came from Marriott, so

673
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.400
he's like very hotel centric and focused, and since that's

674
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.240
you know, my specialty leading that subchannel, I've been really

675
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.839
engaged with him, which has been such a great learning experience.

676
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.480
Is I created like a whole resort strategy, like a

677
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.319
five year plan, So that was really Yeah, it was

678
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.640
really I did that last year and we're embarking on

679
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:38.319
that and the different steps.

680
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:40.559
So it's exciting to be.

681
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:45.079
A part of creating a journey for part of the

682
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.000
path for you know, with the company that you're at. Cool.

683
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.680
So I'm gonna go through a quick little fun round

684
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.599
for you. I'll go through each one and you can

685
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.079
tell me the answer and tell us why you're going

686
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.960
to pick this wine for this reason. So first, let's

687
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.160
start with a rose for a rainy school drop off.

688
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:06.720
Well, okay, try.

689
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:11.039
I mean, I'm gonna be a little pious because I

690
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.160
work with great brands. Yeah, you know, I want to

691
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.720
talk about my fabulous brands, but also because honestly I

692
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:23.079
really believe in them. I'm so the rainy school drop off,

693
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.880
So I represent two fabulous Rose is the house of

694
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.799
Minudie and Chateau d Sclan.

695
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.440
Chateau dscan.

696
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.240
Has. Everybody knows Whispering Angel, but I'm going to say

697
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.480
Rose for rain school drop off would be Chateau descons

698
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.720
the beach it's and yeah, rainy school, the rainy day

699
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.279
school drop off. You you're gonna pretend like you're at

700
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.400
the beach. So I grab a bottle Beach Rose.

701
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:51.480
I like that one a lot.

702
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.400
So and that's the one that Whispering Angel makes right.

703
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.440
The beach, Yeah, I each baby younger sister, we call it. Yes, yes,

704
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.880
that's what I'm like. I know you said whispering but yeah,

705
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.200
oh yeah. I love Whispering Angel. I love so much.

706
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.319
And then the beach like in the summer, I mean

707
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:09.680
I feel like I get it because it is a

708
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:11.240
little later and it's great.

709
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.480
I mean the summer I get Whispering Angel too. Now

710
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:14.000
I want some.

711
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.880
How about a bold red for teenage negotiations?

712
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.759
Yeah, I mean I think any any red is you know,

713
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.480
especially in those teenage years, you a deep old Cabernet.

714
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:29.240
For sure.

715
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.599
I would say we represent Joseph Phelps. They have a

716
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:39.000
beautiful Josephelps Cabernet. But yeah, a nice, rich bold Cabernet

717
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.319
is ripe for that moment for sure.

718
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:46.240
Yeah, and how about a champagne for a surprise homework

719
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:47.240
free afternoon.

720
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.960
Well you said it before about Moett. I mean we

721
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.240
are known. Moett is the brand of celebration. It is certainly,

722
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:55.039
you know.

723
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.799
And Champagne, I say, doesn't need to be for celebration,

724
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.680
you know, but champagne is bubbles and sunshine in a bottle.

725
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.359
It could brighten your day even on a bad day.

726
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.319
But certainly Malatt.

727
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.440
And Chandan the house of celebration for a homework free day.

728
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:09.920
For sure.

729
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.599
Those are perfect. And now I need some bubbles as well.

730
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.719
I'll do I'll do them all. But so, can you

731
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.639
share with us your favorite chapter or passage from your book,

732
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.599
because I just feel as though, like I said, I

733
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.599
was laughing at this when not at you know, I

734
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.960
was just laughing through it reading it. It was just

735
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.760
so fun and I loved the way that it's set up,

736
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.079
and I think everybody needs to hear it.

737
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:36.719
Thank you so well.

738
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.400
Choosing your favorite chapter is like choosing your favorite child.

739
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:42.920
But I will read I love, I love the chapter.

740
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.440
You don't want your kids to ferment. As I mentioned before, fermenting.

741
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.599
Fermentation is when you turn sugar into alcohol. So you

742
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.000
sugar something sweet. Alcohol is harsh inbiting. You don't want

743
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.559
your kids turning from sweet to arch and biting because

744
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:57.599
they don't have matters.

745
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.320
Okay, So and for the reader for the list steners.

746
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.880
Every time I use wine terminology, it gives the definition

747
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:04.199
at the bottom.

748
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.000
So manners, manner's.

749
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.760
Manners are the key to it all. These lessons need

750
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.039
to start even when they're small. Teach them this from

751
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.320
day one, before they start to crawl. You don't want

752
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.159
your kid to be the sour grape in the bunch

753
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.400
and turn into a spoiled brat that kids want to

754
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.079
punch when they start talking. Make sure they know thank

755
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.119
you and please to always say bless you when they

756
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.400
hear someone sneeze. Please and thank you are an absolute must.

757
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.639
Without that, your child the total bust. There's nothing worse

758
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.280
than a child who has behavior that is crude because

759
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.800
it'll continue as they're older and become someone who's rude

760
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.480
people don't take kindly to it. Aren't nice to those

761
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.599
with attitude because it's very off putting and puts others

762
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:41.960
in a bad mood, oftentimes causing confrontation and leads to

763
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.519
a nasty feud. Wanting to put a little bit of

764
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.400
poison in your child's food is really how you want

765
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:48.440
your kids to be viewed.

766
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.000
Wouldn't you prefer that there's someone who's wooed.

767
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.599
Without manners, they'll ferment and turn into someone harsh and biting.

768
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.960
They may turn into a kid who's rude, obnoxious and

769
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.440
always fighting. So teachers kids some manners and have some

770
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.280
heart and soul. Without that, your kid may well turn

771
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:04.199
into an a hole.

772
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.000
I know, it's just so funny, like there's so many

773
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.679
good ones. I was trying to find the one I

774
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.360
thought it was, so you know, the Sarah Sarab What

775
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.639
will it be? What will it be? It's just like

776
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.800
I love the connections to each each one, the words,

777
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.000
and I just and I learned new words. I mean,

778
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.320
I love wine and I love learning about wine, and

779
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.639
I learned new for wine, which was sooice that I

780
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:37.679
did my job. So if your book were a wine

781
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.559
verital or a Champagne cuve. What would it be vintage

782
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.599
tasting notes and the label copy you'd write for.

783
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.239
I mean, I think it would definitely be a Champagne

784
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.960
cub because that doesn't come from one perfect year, but

785
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:56.320
from multiple vintages blended together, right, and so you know,

786
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.760
I mean this label says it all right. It's the

787
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.679
fine art of wine and wine management. That's the sub

788
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:08.760
petting all life is managing our drinking wine and managing

789
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:11.079
the the wine we hear from the kids.

790
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.840
Mm hmm, I know it's so yeah, I love it.

791
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.079
My daughter, I mean, she's five, but she she likes

792
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.280
to drink out of wine glasses, like her water in there.

793
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.280
And she the other day we have like electrolytes and

794
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.239
she put like red, the red electrolyts, and she's like,

795
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:27.880
oh look.

796
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:31.119
I'm like, mommy, it's so cute.

797
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.480
But you know what I mean, I know for me, my,

798
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.960
you know, that was part of the story and the

799
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:38.840
romanticism for me too is growing up.

800
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:40.679
My my parents were divorced.

801
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.840
I to my dad on the weekends and it was

802
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.880
like to go to a nice dinner and my stepmom

803
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.719
and I started to learn about how they were enjoying

804
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.480
like wine with the meal and so you know, it

805
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.239
never became anything that was taboo for me. Actually, like

806
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.800
when all my friends were out, like you know, starting

807
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.199
drinking early, it's you know, because you know, they give

808
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.360
me a little tasty you're in there, and right, it's

809
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.199
never anything taboo, and it just became something about wanting

810
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.920
to enjoy rather than to abuse or you know, think

811
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.239
it is something you know. I mean, that's why you

812
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.639
hear like Europeans, like you know, the French kids, like

813
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.039
they're drinking wine at.

814
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.320
Ten or eleven. I mean, I don't don't want our

815
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:17.440
kids drinking that young.

816
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.360
But again, when it's something that's just part of the

817
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.000
culture and it's not so taboo that it becomes something

818
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.199
of enjoyment that people don't generally want to abuse.

819
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:30.000
Yeah, my cousin lives in Rome and he has for

820
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.679
twenty five more than almost thirty years, I guess, and

821
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.599
his daughter when they came for Christmas the one year

822
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:37.840
she was like, you know, thirteen or fourteen, and of

823
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.800
course we're Italian and the Seven Fishes and the wine

824
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.320
is flowing and someone's like, oh, another bottle needs and

825
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.119
to be open, and she just literally goes unscrewed. You know,

826
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.239
opens it like she's a pro, and I was like,

827
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:51.800
oh my gosh, you opened that bottle better than me.

828
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.599
You know, it's just like a normal thing thing there,

829
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.880
and again it's the same. It's just it's not like

830
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.119
it is where you're like, you know, binge drinking it

831
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:01.599
over there.

832
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:03.719
It's just you're having it to enjoy it the way

833
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.599
it's supposed to be enjoyed. It's a nice way of life. Yes, well,

834
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.639
I this conversation was awesome.

835
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.679
I think this is going to bring it to the

836
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.039
end of another episode of The Running Wine Mom. And

837
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.280
as I mentioned in the beginning, I don't think there

838
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.800
was a more perfect book for myself and my listeners.

839
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.800
So thank you so much for creating this masterpiece for everyone.

840
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.239
Thanks so much, and thank you so much for having

841
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.239
me on. This has been so fun. I'm glad you

842
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.760
enjoyed the book. I hope your listeners enjoy it and

843
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.239
this has been super fun awesome.

844
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.480
As always, thank you so much for spending time with

845
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.239
us today on The Running Wine Mom. Don't forget to subscribe,

846
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.440
leave a review, and share this episode with someone who

847
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.679
needs to hear it. You can follow me on Instagram

848
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.079
at the Running Wine Mom, Underscore and Danielle, where can

849
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:48.119
the listeners find you?

850
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:49.760
And your book on?

851
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.480
My book is available on Amazon dot com, Barnesonoble dot com.

852
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.280
I have a website Daniellefrankauthor dot com and you can

853
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:00.360
find me on Instagram at Create a Great Story.

854
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.719
Affect and I will link all of that. So thank

855
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.039
you again, thank you so much for joining us today.

856
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.119
Remember you are strong, you are capable, and you are

857
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.159
all amazing. Until next time, keep running, keep sipping, keep

858
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:14.199
embracing the joy of motherhood. Cheers and I'll be back

859
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.960
next Tuesday.