Homeopathy for Families: Marcus Fernandez on Natural Healing, Fevers, Anxiety & Parenting

0:04 I would draw the truice some mother's intuition about that child than any delta. This episode is brought to you by Vivrel, the luxury membership club that lets you borrow designer handbags and jewelry without the full designer price tag. Whether you have a wedding, vacation, date night, or just want to feel a little more put together, Vivrel lets you switch up your look with access to incredible luxury pieces. Use code The Running Wine Mom to get started. Welcome back to the Running Wine Mom podcast. I'm your host, Samantha Selinsky, aka the Running Wine Mom, and today we're getting into a topic that I know a lot of moms are curious about, even if they don't always talk about it out loud. We're talking about homeopathy. My guest today is Marcus Fernandez. He's the founder of the Center for Homeopathic Education, and he created Homeopathy at Home to teach families how to use the method confidently in everyday life. He's worked with parents all over the world who want to better understand how the body heals and how to support that process, especially when it comes to their kids. In this episode, we're unpacking what it actually is, why it sparks such strong reactions, how stress plays into healing, and what this could look like on the inside.

1:17 Of a real household. So, whether you're skeptical, interested, or just trying to learn something new, this conversation is about understanding the perspective and asking better questions. So, without further ado, let's welcome Marcus. Welcome Marcus. Thanks Samanthan lovely to be here. Yeah, so before we get in into all the clean stuff, we start each episode with our wine wine in one of the week segment, this is where we share our favorite bottle of wine, then about something that's been bothering us, and celebrate our recent victory. So grab a glass, take a deep breath, and let's get started. So Marcus, what is your wine or drink of the week. Well, I haven't actually stopped drinking about twenty well twenty six years ago. Wow, congrats. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean not because I had a problem.

1:59 I just I just decided I thought I was drinking quite a lot. I thought maybe that I'll just stop for a month and then that just continue on to the next month. But you know, I do like the alcohol free wine. It's not quite the same, but to me, me now after twenty six years, it feels exactly the same when I drink it. Yeah, so yeah, it's uh, that would be my choice if I had a choice. Cool. And so what's your complaint wine of the week? You mean, what I do I want to whine about? You in? Yeah, what do you want to like complain about? Now? There's a lot of things I complain about the weather. The weather here in the UK. Oh my god, it's just like rained every single day since since the New year, and I think it's been our wettest and lack of sunlight February just come out of and January for like nineteen oh five. So I want to whine about the weather. However, it's been very sunny. It's been very sunny today, it's been very sunny. So you know, I am British. We talk about the weather a.

2:54 Lot well over in Pennsylvania. On this side it is not much better. It's been terrible. We we just got over a few large snowstorms and it's just been raining and yeah, just been terrible. So what's your win of the week? Something positive this week? Something positive the week? That's good one. I'm good positive of the week. Think I think it was, I think it's my it's my daughter, my daughter. She's ten and she's going to a new school in well Secondary School in September. She's called Maggie. If she's listening out there, she's a bit. She was really nervous about starting new school because she's not going to know anybody because all the other kids they're going to different places and she's going to a school where she's not going to know anybody.

3:38 And we encourage you to join a drama group where she didn't know anybody at all, so she had to make friends and go in there completely. And she just finished this last weekend, the performance that did four shows of Aladdin the musical, and she was so uncloud nigh and I said to her, yeah, I said to a lot you see, she said, you know you can do this. You can go to somewhere that you don't know anybody and make friends. And she said, you know what, Dad, You're absolutely right. So that was a good win. That was a good good win. Wait, and such a confidence builder for kids, you know, to see that they've done that and they're involved and. That's just so cool. But she was nervous. She was nervous before then she had anxiety and before the performance she was nervous. So I gave her homopathic remedy called arge knit, which is good for It's called arge knit, which is a remedy for anticipation and especially an anticipation of an event coming up, like performance or you can even use it go into the dentist or if you're a bit nervous. And that really really because he had a funny tummy and it settled everything down.

4:42 Wow, I need to what about before you fly? Does that help you with your nerves? Yeah? Knits as well, yeah knits. Yeah. So that's a really good remedy O knit because it's it's anticipating what can happen. You know that when you're worried about what can happen. And I've given that remedy so many times to people you have fear of flying, and it's really really helped many condemnists. I'm such a nervous fire. All right, Well, so let's kind of get into that. Tell us about what you do, what first pulled you to this direction and you grew up in more of a conventional medical mindset? Is that what I read? And like, how did that kind of switch over to everything. Yeah, So I mean, yeah, my background is I was brought up you know, when you got sick, you went to the doctors. You know, my parents normally, and my mum would tell me because not often mums are the ones that, you know, take care of all the healthcare, and yeah, we go to the doctors. I get to say, we go to the doctors or have a you know, or vaccines or whatever we had, and that it's just what you did. And you you never questioned the doctor either.

5:44 That was the thing. You know. My parents never would question the doctor. The doctor always knew right. So I was up in a very very conventional way, and this whole area of healing and well being was wasn't really on my you know, my radar, and I was. I was in a band, you know, I was fourteen. I I actually it was Bruce Springsteen, a New Jersey boy not far away from where you are in New Jersey. Yeah. Yeah, what I got very very inspired by Bruce Springsteen when I was a kid, and so that that's that got me to play the you know, learn to play the guitar. I taught myself and then all I want to do is get in a band. I wanted to be a rock and roller. And so from the age of fourteen I was, I was in a band. And when I was just before I was twenty, well around being twenty years of age, we've been you know, we gig all the time, and you know, never had any money. Was a poor musician. Really. We only got money when we got did gigs and when we got paid. And at the time we had this tour plan We're going to tour Germany with the band. But I had no money, you know, and I needed some money just to get there.

6:52 Once I was there, I was fine because we get paid after the gigs, after the you know what we did anyway, So the only I thought, right, I'm gonna have to get a job, right, which is quite aiding to me at the time. I'm forget a normal job. And so the own I went to different jobs. And it was the early nineties and it was the recession in the UK. You couldn't get a job. And the only job I could get was working in a nursing home with the elderly who had dementia. It was specifically for people with dementia. Now, honestly, Samantha, I can't say how far away. That was from my well my mind was at the time. But it was the only job I could get. So I started working there because I was only going to be there for a few weeks and now looking after the elderly, doing all the different stuff you had to do, working with the nurses there.

7:34 And one day I was having a cup of coffee in the staff room on my break and I was trying to run on the nurses there and was talking away and then she said, I'm doing this course. I'm going to be doing this course in September on this thing called homeopathy. I never heard of it. I mean, it was like an alien word to me. What the hell was homeopathy? To say, it's a mouthful, And she explained what it was and I said, okay, that sounds really great. You said, did you know what should I think you'd make a great homeopath. I said what I said, I think you make a really good homeopath. I went, no, no, no, no, you don't understand. Her. Money here for a few weeks and we're going to be a rock star. The are the usual. Yeah, she said, no, I think you should come with me to this open day. There's an open day event. You should come there's going to be lecturers talking there, teachers speaking about the course and homeopathy, and no, no, no play. Honestly, no, I'm really not interested, thanks very much.

8:29 I made my excuses and I left. I left the room, went back to work. But Samantha, every time I saw her after that, whether it was in the corridor, in the car park, in the staff room, she'd say to me, Marks, I really feel you should come with me to this, to this open day. And I, you know, I thought she was older than me. You know, I think she's probably about thirty five or I don't know, forty, but when you're nineteen or twenty, that sounds quite old. I thought, Yeah. I thought, maybe she's lonely. Maybe she just wants somebody to go with her, like a two hour trip a car ride. So in the end, just to shut her up, I said, right, I'll come with you. So there was going to be in a week's time anyway, the day before this open day was going to go, I woke up in the morning and I had terrible tons of lighters.

9:15 And I used to get a lot of ton s lighters. You know. I was a singer in the band as well, who played guitar. But we were always in smoky clubs. I used to smoke, I was drinking. You know, rock and roll lifestyle hedonistic anyway, So what I'd normally do is phone the doctors up making appointment and they give me antibiotics. Now it would get rid of it, but it would always come back, you know, it was never really getting to the source of it. So I phoned the doctors up, couldn't get an appointment, and I thought, what I'm going to do now? And then I thought, I know, I'm going to try this homeopathy stuff this woman's been banging on about. So I got a little but I got the bus into town, went to the local health food store. I thought, right, I'm going to try this stuff. And I asked a lady there it was do you sell homeopathies?

9:56 He said yeah, in the back, and I went to the back and there was all these bottles of homeopathic remedies, all in really weird names like Coulsa, Tilla, Bella Donna. I thought, God, that sounds like a poison. It was a poison. Oh, Senecum knocks Vomica, and I thought, wow, what a great name for a metal band. Knocks vomitan would be a great name for a band. And then and then I looked at this little leaflet and I looked at this leafer and it it saw this remedy called gel Semium, and I thought that sounds like my symptoms. It was like felt heavy, achy throat, headache, like a band, like a sensation on the head. So I bought it and I went home and I opened the jar. It were at a bottle with the remedies. There's a lot of white pills. And I looked at it and said, if this works, I'm going to go to this open day.

10:41 But if it doesn't work, I'm not going to waste my time and I'm not gonna go. So I took one of the pills. Maybe it very clearly, and I fell asleep and I woke up about in the chair. I woke up a couple of hours later and I was absolutely soaking wet from sweat. Wow, absolutely so and my hair. I thought, wow, that was pretty powerful. I didn't realize i'd fallen asleep. So I took another one and the same thing happened. And this happened all day. Because now it's the daytime, it's not nighttime. Daytime, and I went to the pub that evening with my friends and I'm sat there, you know, with my drink, and I'm sweating and they said, you okay, you look like you look like death. I said, yeah, I said, I'm sweating a lot. But actually I feel okay myself. I felt okay, like it was a good thing. I woke up the next morning, Samantha no ton Solis. Wow, and I've never had to slitis since that's thirty How old are I life? That's thirty year, thirty four years ago? Wow, never had it?

11:43 Wow again? Never again, never again, never again. So that got me thinking now, So I thought, okay, I'll go to this open day. But I had no intention of signing up or you know, anything to do with it. So I get to that. I get there with her in the car and she's very excited and the guy sorts to speak. One of the teachers. In fact, he's the principal and founder of this college, the first homeopathic college really in the UK that he found it back in the early seventies, about mid seventies. So I'm listening to him talk and he's talking about his experience, you know, thirty odd years experience of homeopathy and about remedies and about his clients and patients and all the different cases. And I'm listening to it and I remember going really quiet inside. It was like there was this stillness just came over me, and it was really quiet, like a quietness I've never experienced that before, that that sort of stillness. It's like my mind has stopped, you know. And it was like it was like I felt I knew what he was talking about, you know, I felt I knew it. It was like I was hearing truth for the first time.

12:51 I can't really describe it any more than but some part of me are very deep part of me really resonated it. It knew it to be true. My first thought was, if this is true what he's saying, how come the whole world doesn't know about it? Because you were talking about you know, one hundred million people use it in India for the healthcare alone. There's on the homopathic hospitals. There used to be in the UK there used to a four or five, and how much it's used around the world. And then I thought, how come the whole world doesn't know about this? You know, I thought I knew it all at twenty you know, of course, of course. And then my second thought was, I'm going to make sure the whole world does know about this love that, yeah, and that, And I signed up for this course. I knew nothing. I didn't have the money, but I knew knew I had to do this. And often, you know, I always say, you don't get into homeopathy.

13:49 It pulls you in with the times, right, And you know, I'm so grateful that it did because it shaped the rest of my life. And I'm so grateful it's in my life, in the life of my family and my kids. You know. We truly was a start of a journey, and an incredible journey, you know. And I can't believe how long ago that was. But I didn't make it to be a rock star. But hey, you know, maybe I'm a rock star. And I love it. Yes you did, I've trained. Yeah yeah in the story. Yeah. So I'm not sure in the UK if this is how they reference it, But in the US, you know, moms who are using natural remedies they're called like crunchy moms or and I feel like there's a lot a lot of people that think they have to be one way or the other way something like myself. I kind of fall in the middle where I'm like, yeah, I trust the doctor, but also I'm really open to, you know, giving my kids what is best for their body, but I don't really know enough about it. So what would you say to a mom who like has I'll say, because I have a three year old, like my three year old wakes up and they're they have the flu or they're sick, rather than grabbing like the cold medicine out there, the flu medicine after the cabinet, what would you tell them?

15:07 Well, sort of the first bit about what you're saying about crunchy mums. Sorry I say, we say mums in England. You says, you know, I ran a mother and baby cling for many many years. I always say, you know, it doesn't have to be one of the other. So it's about it's about a scale. You know, if I'm in a car accident, the first place I want to be as a hospital, you know, right, Yeah, medicine fantastic. I'll probably be taking the remedyonica. I'm conscious and that did happen to me. But if I've got a chronic disease or you know, I'm going to look at other ways to get my body to heat itself before I go down that surgery or pharmaceutical things. So to me, it's a scale, but I think that really we have to have a shift in off perception about what is health and what is you know, sickness. So for me it's sort of it's sort of three things here really for parents and being a parent and know exactly what it's what it's like. I think the first thing is that your body is designed to heal, you know, and our job is to support the healing response, not to suppress symptoms. And I think what happens is we we go to a place of fear very quickly because really a lack of knowledge. Now remember years and years ago, you know, your grandmother will be very much involved in the family health or there and their mother, so there was a whole sort of sort of wisdom around the family and the grandmother and knew what to do. Why could you've been there before? The great grandmotherly is and

16:38 know why because she'd been there before. And I think what's happened is we've just given our power away and there's a lot of things we can do before we need to go down the pharmaceutical approach in my mind, and I think that I usally use this analogy surmount. It's like a car dashboard. If the oil like flashes, it means there's something wrong in the engine. But if you just take a ball bout or suppress the symptoms, there's still a problem in the engine. The car is going to break down two or three miles down the road. So what we need to do is getting to the engine and sort of like really sort the problem out. And they're light, we'll go off by itself. So we've got to, like you said, we've got to stimulate the body to help it heed itself. And that's what remedies do.

17:18 The second point is parents are more capable than they think. Okay, I think with a few remedies, yeah you are. And I think particularly mothers, I'm going to split this out of there, mothers. I would rather trust a mother's intuition about their child than any doctor. M M yeah, yeah, any doctor in Harley Street. What we have here, which is like you know, the main medical street in London. You know your child, you know, and with a few remedies and some basic knowledge, you know, families can handle the most everyday illnesses, acutes things at home, be a cough, cold fever. Of course, if it's sort of you'll know intuitively when you need to get help, right, you know. But a lot of things can be dealt with, like I said, with some of these old, old well remedies, but also old sort of what we call wives tell you know, the old grandmother recipes that things you can do.

18:10 And the third thing is, I think slow down the panic. You know, so often fear and urgency often leads or necessary medication. So I think again, when we have more knowledge, it sort of empowers us and we we slow down. You know, It's like, okay, hang on, let's just calm this down, let's just sort this out. So I don't forgot whether that makes sense. It's like often when we calm down that panic, we make better decisions for our kids. I think, what do you think the biggest misconceptions around the homeopathic life are because a lot of people say, oh, you know, that's just like that's not real medicine, even though it is real medicine. But what do you find that people are saying a lot and how do you kind of get them to see that this actually works?

18:55 Well? I always say, the proofs and the pudding. You don't need to believe in it. You just got to try it. But I always try to. I think part of my job as well as a practitioner, which I'm still a practitioner and still sill patience, is the fact that it's really educating people what is homeopathy? So you know what is it? Well, homeopathy is based on the principle of like cures like. So what that means. Give an example, if you're chopping in it up, your eyes water and your nose runs, well, we use onion in a very doullted homeopathic form for people with hay fever or colds with the same symptoms of our eyes are running in the nose of running. Whatever can cause something in a large amount, in a small amount, it can cure it. So another good example, actually, mu's bring it into wine. You know. Yeah, people have a hangover after drinking too much wine. What do people say, have hair of the dog, which is a little bit of the stuff that caused it in a large amount. Yeah, And that's really the basis of homeopathy. Another example would be coffee.

19:54 Say you have a couple of espressos or a lot of drink loss of coffee, your whole nervous system gets wound up and it's like you mine's running at a thirty you know, three hundred miles an hour. You're running around your whole stretch. You can't sleep. Well. We use coffee or kaffea as a homeopathic remedy for people that have those symptoms but havn't drank coffee that is really stressed out, okay, or they can't sleep. So whatever can cause something in a large amount, in a small amount, you can cure it. So that's the basis of homeopathy. And back to your question is what do I say to people that's that say, oh, homeopli is a lot of rubbish, you know, it's all placebo. Or I always say to people, well what's your experience of it?

20:36 Well I read that, Oh you read something. Try it, just try it. You know, it's actually for people, and it's about wine. It's about wine. There's a remedy called nux of vomica, which is why I mentioned before we sound like a good name for a band. It's the number one hangover remedy. Oh wow, number one? Hands on that? Yes? Well that yeah, yes, some of that, but the little tip for that though, some that you take one one before you start drinking, take one whilest you're drinking, and then take one if you can remember an you're conscious at the end at the end of the night, and that will really really helps preventing hangovers. So, you know, as we said, you work with a lot of families. What patterns do you see in modern parenting that are really affecting kids' health physically, emotionally all around.

21:23 Yeah, what do I think? Well, I mean, lo, life's changed so much, you know. I mean I said I started pressing homeopy in the sort of like mid nineties, and things have changed so much. I mean, look, mid nineties the internet was just coming on. You know, it was like that there was a lot of There was no smartphones, you know, there was no social media. I think I think it's I really think it's about I just think it's about being present with our kids, you know. I think it's been present present with our kids. And listen, I know life's really tough, and I don't think to make anybody feel guilty, but I remember I remember Jimmy, my little boy was about probably about two, I don't know, and I was working on my laptop and he came in and he was trying to, you know, shut the laptop, and I was going a bit annoyed because I was trying to work, and I suddenly dawned on me, actually wants my attention, right, you know, that's why he should in it. He wants my I know it sounds obvious, but when it really lands, you go, wow, Okay, what am I doing? But I think I don't know modern parenting.

22:24 I just think it's I just think, look, we need to need to be more present. I think we just need to be more present with our kids. And there's they say, you know, kids, and my kids now are fifteen and ten. It just goes so quick and you suddenly turn around and go, wow, what the hell happened? Yeah, it goes fair. Yeah, and they say that, but it's like until you actually experience it, you don't realize it. So I just think we're more present, you know. And I think when you're more present, then you you can really you know, parents have got it anywhere, and particularly mothers, they've got a really strong connection obviously to children, to the child. But it's like anything you know, just making sure, I don't know, sort of like, what's the word. I don't want to tell parents what to do, but it's the stuff that they know, you know, it's it's the sleep, it's the diet. It's for mother kids and the kids, you know, all the family eating well, sleeping well, you know, moving, exercise, all those things, being out in nature, connecting with the world, not always on a screen, you know, not always on a screen. And I think a lot of the stuff around social media and screens, I think, you know, this whole thing about anxiety and young people. I think, you know, we need to be building our child's resilience.

23:34 True, and. To me, the more we use natural remedies. What the natural remedies do is stimulate the body to heat itself. It's like a workout for the body, like going to the gym. When you're just taking pharmaceutical it suppresses the system, you know, it's not it's in the system to work. Yeah, just ignoring, you know, pushing down the problem rather than actually fixing it. So you're you're the founder of the Center of Homeopathic Education. Can you talk about that? Like what would someone expect sure from there? Yeah? Sure, sure, yeah, yeah. So I found that back in well got twenty eight years ago. Wow, and yeah, a long time. I can't believe, but you know, it's been an amazing time. And we've got We're based in London.

24:20 We have a class room based course and where we train people to become practitioners, but also we do beginner's courses, nation courses and practitioner training as well as postgraduate training. But now obviously with our online courses, we have students all over the world, included in America and North America. And the reason why I said upset she was that I could only I could only reach so many people in my own practice right now, and I wanted, as I said, remember what I said when I first discovered homeopthy, I wanted the whole world to know about it. And so I wrote this this statement which I've really lived by all these years, which is my real vision, is to be enhance the health and well being of humankind through the education and application of homeopathy. And that's been my north start. And now we've got Hobbs all around the world, not in England, but also Australia, in Bulgaria, in Turkey, in Hungary, We've got places all over the world.

25:17 Now Hobbs Training practitioners. We've also got a clinic in Gambia and Africa where we have treated twenty five thousand people for free over the past fifteen years, and now we're training people in Gambia. This is our charitable thing that we do to become practitioners, so they're not reliant just on us going there and treating them. So yeah, it's a huge mission. Book to educate people, to me is the highest calling and because we can affect so many people, and over that period of twenty eight years, you can imagine we've trained thousands of practitioners now all over the world. And also we have a free I said this to you listeners, we have a free home prescriber course. We used to sell this course, but then during lockdown, I saw how many families were really disempowered around their health and well being. Because that was a huge obviously shocked because all of a sudden, it's like there was no answer to the problem year before the vaccination, like stay in your house, wear a mask. That was it.

26:18 And that shocked a lot of people. They always thought that if the worst came to the worst, medicine would save them. And guess what, it didn't. So people then thinking I need to Yeah, I need to look after on. So we gave this course away for free. It's still free and we've had fifty thousand people, just over fifty as we're doing this course around the world. It's free. It's online, five hour course, and it teaches you how to use homeopathy, even if you've had no experience at all, how to use it. And I would say, everbody, go to the website seech you homeopathy dot com and you'll see the home prescriber course and it's free. Okay, but if you do, if you do register it, watch it. Do watch it because you know, we always how many times you sign up for things and we never we never watch them.

27:04 So if every household could keep just three remedies on hand, what would they be and why? Okay? So I would say number one. I would let's call it ABC. Okay. They is for Honka. Everybody needs to have Honoca in their house, they need to have it in the car, they need to have in the bag because Honoka is the number one remedy for trauma. So it's number one remedy especially for kids, bumps and bruises. My son has it in his bag when he goes and plays soccer. It's just the number one remedy for trauma, especially when people they hurt themselves, fall over and they go, oh, I'm okay, I'm all right. But it's just the first remedy you give if your child's or kids fall over or have any famber of accident, give them Monica. So number one trauma remedy. Second remedy I would say, would be I would say probably Bella Donna because I'm thinking of being upset ABC Donna. Bella Donna is for fevers.

28:02 It's for you know, the kids. It comes on suddenly, the fever, you know, and they sort of like really burning hot. It can be so hot. This is like the heats radiating from the skin. They can be Yeah, often the pupils can be dilated and they may crave lemons or lemonade or lemonee or something to do with lemons. So it's a really good number one remedy for fevers, really hot dry fevers. And what will happen is that with the remedies they help the body so it doesn't suppress it like taking what we call it chalpole in the UK. Don't what you call it in the us, but it suppresses it well, it does. It helps stimulate us and it will often break the fever. So the fever will break and then they sweat. And then the third one I would say will be clendular. That's sea.

28:47 So Clendula is made for marriedgold. It's the number one remedy for cuts and grazes. You can buy it as a remedy to take or as a cream, and I'd say definitely get clendular cream. It's fantastic for cuts and grazes. Again with the kids are falling over, really really great remedy for that. So they're the three that's thrown a cream in there as well. Now a lot of people you know that are listening, they might just you know, put it into their Amazon. Is that where they should Should they be going to a specific place or can you just get it off the internet? Well, I'd always say go to a reputable place obviously, but most I would actually say big, I'm a big fan of local health food stores.

29:28 I agree too. I think yeah, I would go to Lei local health food store. They'll have those three remedies. Absolutely they will. Well, obviously, if you can't, you can go online. But I go to local health food store. You know they'll have it. I totally agree with that. I just I feel like sometimes, like you know, you hear a word and you are a remedy and you're like, let me just look it up real quick, and sometimes for the busy moms that unfortunately is the easiest. But I just didn't want anyone to get you know, if you see it. All like yeah, no, no, you're right. I mean certain it's easy, isn't it. Amazon's ease, You click a thing and you get it. Yeah. So yeah, you can get it on Amazon and places got a lot of You've got a lot of get there so many rep you're back. You can get them online. I mean you can go to Honeypathic Pharmacies and who also will send it to you, but you'll get it online them. And there's they have to The remedies aren't like com under food. They come into medicine, so they have to be in order to be sold strictly. There's a lot of restrictions around and quality assurance around the remedies.

30:24 Yet, so I'm going to have you fill in the blank. If parents understood what about healing, everything would change. If parents understood that symptoms are often part of the healing process rather than the enemy. Everything would change, Hm. The body's trying to tell you something. Every time you have a symptom. The body's way of communicating there's an issue here is trying to show you if you get, if you suppress it, you're frustrating that, you know. So this has come really, this has really come from are gonna don't really get into this, but this has really come from the pharmacatsal lenders that you know, you need that about that and what does he do? It stops things, It controls it, you know. But that's only a very Western way of looking at healing. It's not an Eastern way of looking at healing.

31:10 Right, So true? All right, Well, you have given us so much information. For one last question. If a mom listening right now is overwhelmed, second guessing herself, wanting to do better for her kid's health, but not really sure where to start, what would you want her to hear before we end today? I would say, well, number one, I said this right at the beginning. You know your child better than anyone. Okay, don't underestimate your instincts as a parent. And as he said before, with a little knowledge and the right tools, you can support your child's self in ways that are incredibly empowering. Often when people really start using homeopathy with their kids, and often they get into homeopathy through their children, then they often never go back because they see the power and what the thing is. It is not the remedies.

32:00 The remedies are key to a lock there. It's like a key to it. It's like a key in ignition. It's like it turns the engine, the engine starts to go. You don't need to keep turning the key. The engine's already going. It's the same with the remedy. The power is not in the the powers not in there in the remedy. It's like the powers not in the key, powers in the body. And the more that you use remedies, you'll see the amazing power of the body. For me, the biggest thing when I saw the power of the body was when my wife was in childbirth. Yeah, oh my gosh, so true. I was utterly, utterly good job men caught of kids give birth. But it was the power of the body.

32:45 That's when you see it work. And actually a lot of people use on me up like I did with my wife when she was giving birth. It's an incredible to see that power. It's raw power, so true, and I think we forget that, We really forget that. And yeah, I just think, please look into it. You know, this is why come on these podcasts. I do it because I want, as I said at the beginning, to help people know, tell the whole world what home me upay is because it is an incredible thing. That's awesome medicine the people. So I love that and I think that's a great place to end it on those words of wisdom. So thank you Marcus for this. This is so helpful. I know everyone listening is going to take a lot from this, you know. Again, it reminded me of how much power there is and understanding our options, our body, whether it's whether homeopathy is something that you explore or not. You know, I hope this episode encourages everyone to ask the questions and stay curious about your family's health.

33:44 So that's super important. Absolutely. Yeah, And as always, thank you so much to the listeners for spending time with us today on The Running Wine Mom. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it. You can follow me on Instagram, at the Running wind Mom, Underscore and Marcus. Where can listeners find you? Yeah, well you can find my book called Homeopathy at Homie. Came out last year, published by hay House Penguin Random House, number one best seller Samanth on Amazon. Its a really yeah, it's a really good guide to It's an eighty Z guide for things you get at home eighties e. Everything from you know, athletes for to bites and stings with bumps and bruises, diarrhea all the way to warts. It's an eighties head or the top remedies that I've chosen, like top five remedies for this four remedies for fevers, top three remedies for teething. And I'd say to all of you, please get something like this book because it will really help. And it's not a book to be kept on your shelf. I want it to be used, I want it to be doggied, I want you to spoil your wine on it. I want it to be used, all right, not on a shelf. So I would say that.

34:48 But also, yeah, if you go to our website see chy homyopathy dot com, you'll find out more about our courses and our free courses I mentioned now we can give you for your resources as well for today's episode. Awesome, and I'll I'm going to link all those in your book as well. That seems like a great place for people to actually, you know, start as well, if you just to have something going on and you can just look it up like it in Encyclopedia. So thank you again for today. This was great. Thank you for having me. Yeah, thank you so much for joining us today. Remember you were strong, you were capable, and you were all amazing. Until next time, keep running, keep sipping, and keep embracing the joy of parenthood. Cheers and I'll be back next Tuesday.