Oct. 13, 2026

How to Find Your Style Again After Motherhood | Jamie Lewin

How to Find Your Style Again After Motherhood | Jamie Lewin
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Becoming a mom changes a lot—including, for many of us, the relationship we have with our clothes, our bodies, and even the person staring back at us in the mirror.In this episode of The Running Wine Mom, Samantha sits down with Jamie Lewin, an FIT-trained designer who has worked with major fashion brands including Ralph Lauren, Armani, J.Crew, and Gap and is now the founder of Vetted, a style guide designed to make getting dressed and shopping easier for real women.But this conversation goes much deeper than what’s “in” this season.Samantha and Jamie talk about why personal style is often one of the first things to disappear under the mental load of motherhood—and why caring about what you wear isn’t necessarily superficial. Jamie explains how clothing can affect confidence, the way we carry ourselves, and how we show up in our everyday lives.They also tackle the infamous mom uniform. If your closet is filled with black leggings, Jamie gets it. She explains why leggings became such an easy default for moms and shares simple alternatives—including track pants, pull-on pants, and satin pants—that can feel just as comfortable while making an outfit feel more intentional.Jamie also shares a realistic three-minute outfit formula for chaotic mornings, tips for organizing your closet to reduce decision fatigue, and practical ways to dress for the messy reality of motherhood—kids, spills, errands, playgrounds and all.
And then Samantha and Jamie take on some of the style myths women hear constantly:“I’ll buy nice clothes when I lose weight.”“I’m too old to wear that.”

Jamie challenges the idea that women should wait for a different body, size, or stage of life before dressing in a way that makes them feel good. Our bodies change through postpartum life, motherhood, aging, and everything in between. Instead of waiting for some future version of yourself, Jamie encourages women to dress the body and life they have right now.They also talk about navigating fashion in your 30s, 40s and beyond without feeling like you have to follow every TikTok microtrend—or suddenly start dressing according to an arbitrary set of “age appropriate” rules.Because finding your style after motherhood doesn’t have to mean becoming someone new.Sometimes it’s about finding your way back to yourself.In this episode:• Why women often lose their sense of personal style after becoming moms
• The connection between clothing, confidence, and identity
• Why caring about what you wear isn't as frivolous as we sometimes believe
• How the black-legging “mom uniform” became the default
• Easy, comfortable alternatives to leggings
• Jamie’s three-minute outfit formula for busy mornings
• How to organize your closet to reduce decision fatigue
• Dressing stylishly through the messy reality of raising kids
• How to tell the difference between personal style and a passing trend
• Why you don't need to participate in every TikTok fashion trend
• Dressing the body you have instead of waiting to lose weight
• Letting go of “I’m too old to wear that”
• How personal style can evolve naturally through your 30s, 40s and beyondAbout Jamie LewinJamie Lewin is an FIT-trained designer with experience working with brands including Ralph Lauren, Armani, J.Crew, Gap and other major names in fashion. After becoming a mother herself and experiencing the realities of balancing a demanding fashion career with raising young children, Jamie began building a career that allowed her more flexibility with her family.She is the founder of Vetted, a style guide created to make fashion, trends, outfit building, and shopping feel more approachable for women without adding another decision to an already overflowing mental load.Connect with Jamie:
Vetted — Jamie’s style guide, shopping recommendations, and fashion resources
Jamie’s social channels — Follow along for approachable styling inspiration and everyday fashion adviceConnect with The Running Wine Mom:
Instagram: @therunningwinemom_
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People say fashion is frivolous, but there is a mental

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component to it. You know, an emotional, mental, like psychological

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component to getting dressed and how we feel about ourselves.

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Welcome back to the Running Wine Mom podcast. I'm your host,

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Samantha Slinsky, aka the Running Wine Mom. Today's guest is

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the fairy godmother your closet has been waiting for. Jamie

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Lewin is an FIT-trained designer who worked with Ralph Lauren, Armani, J.Crew,

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and Gap, and now she runs Vetted, her own style

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guide for real women. She's also a mom, so she's

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not just preaching this stuff from the runway. She's living

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the school drop-off, lukewarm coffee, life right alongside of us.

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We're talking identity after motherhood, the mom uniform trap, and

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the style myths we all need to stop believing. So

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without further ado, let's welcome Jamie. Welcome, Jamie.

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Hi, thanks so much for having me.

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I am so excited to have you because fashion is

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something that I am scared of. Like, I feel like

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I'm so basic. And so I love talking to someone

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like yourself who is so knowledgeable. And I know you're

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going to teach me and my listeners so much. So

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thanks for coming on.

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Of course.

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And so you have, like I mentioned, an FIT degree.

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You worked with Ralph Lauren, Armani, J.Crew, Gap, and now

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you have your own style guide vetted. What pulled you

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out of designing for those big brands and into styling

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like actual moms?

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Yeah, I think like so many other women, after becoming

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a mom, you just need a different lifestyle. And that

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is what happened to me. So, yes, I went to FIT.

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I worked at all the brands that you just mentioned.

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And when I had my daughter, we were living in

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New York. I was there for about 18 years and

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got married, had my daughter and was the senior global

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design director at Gap. And so I was working 24-7.

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I was traveling all the time. got pregnant with my son,

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and we decided we didn't want to raise our kids

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in the city. And so we moved. And for a year,

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I was commuting to New York every single day. I

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had a two-year-old and a newborn and was up at

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530 every morning to get to work on time. I

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was running home every night and I was missing my

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kids on both ends. And I was exhausted. And after

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a year, I was like, I need to change something.

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This is not working. And so I still consult with

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some of the bigger brands like Gap, Calvin Klein, Michael Kors,

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a bunch of brands. And I work with founders of startups,

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but I'm able to make my own schedule. I'm able

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to work remotely. I go to New York when I

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need to for meetings. And, you know, during COVID, I

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was talking to a couple friends and colleagues about launching

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something new. Like I'd always been really interested in the

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editorial side of things. And we were talking about like

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a store and what we could do and we would

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get stuck on the logistical piece all the time. So

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it was about like warehousing and shipping and sustainability. And

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I was like, you know what, what if I just

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took that whole piece out of it? What if I

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just created a style guide that made it really easy

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to break down like trends or how to put a

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look together and how to shop for everything, you know, low, medium, high,

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but everything in one place. And so I started doing

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that a few years ago and it's, started to take

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off and become more and more like a full-time job,

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which is really what I want. So even though I'm

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still designing with brands, it's really helped me to be

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able to work remotely and be there for my kids

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in the morning to take them to school and soccer

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practice in the afternoons and all of those things that

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moms have to do.

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That's amazing.

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And so something, the next question I have is also

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like a personal question with, we talk so much about

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the mental load of motherhood because we all have it.

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And as you're saying that you're putting, you know, pieces

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together for parents that are easy, which is so amazing.

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It's kind of eliminating that decision fatigue, but why do

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you think so many women surrender their personal style first

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when they become moms? Like that, you know, I know

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they're putting their kids first, but why does their personal

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style kind of tank a lot?

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I mean, Honestly, I think it's like anything with taking

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care of ourselves, right? It's like going to the gym,

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eating healthy. It's like anything that we do for ourselves,

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you know, now we're just like eating scraps off our

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kids' plates and we're like skipping our workouts and we're

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like the last person that we take care of. You know,

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we have our partners, our kids and our homes and

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our jobs and all of these other things that sort

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of take precedent. And Not that I would say fashion

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is like health and wellness, but there is a component

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of that, I think, to, you know, getting dressed and

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how you feel about yourself.

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And I think that's like kind of the first thing

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to go when we have all of these other things

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on our plate that just feel more important at the time.

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Mm hmm.

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And along those lines, society kind of loves to tell

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women that caring about clothes, it's superficial, especially once you

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do have kids, kind of like you were just saying,

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taking care of everyone, but forget about ourselves.

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What do you say to those.

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Moms who feel guilty for spending 10 minutes in the

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morning trying to put together an outfit? Because I see

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this all the time on social media. You know, I

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need this advice for fashion. I haven't bought anything for

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myself or done anything for myself in five years.

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What would you say to that person? anything else in

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your life where you want to take care of yourself.

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You know, I always say like people say fashion is frivolous,

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but there is a mental component to it, you know,

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an emotional, mental, like psychological component to getting dressed and

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how we feel about ourselves and I think how we

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present ourselves to the world. And so if we are,

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you know, going to a job interview or a work

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meeting or sort of anything in our life and we're

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showing up and presenting ourselves, I think we want to

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feel our best. And I think that confidence sort of

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shines through when we do feel good about ourselves in

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what we're wearing. So I actually don't think it's as

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frivolous as, you know, some people might.

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Think it is.

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I totally agree.

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And so going on that mental health component, you know,

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you talked about clothes as a tool for confidence. When

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a woman puts an outfit together that truly feels like.

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Her, what's happening inside of her body internally? Yeah, you

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know what? I have a client that I work with

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and we started out doing a closet edit. And We

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actually had a personal trainer that we had both used.

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That's how I met her. And the trainer had said

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to me, like, this woman has like a high powered job.

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She has three kids. She is like, you know, so bright.

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And she has said to me, like, the one place

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I don't feel confident is getting dressed. And I feel

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like I've gained a little weight and I don't feel

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great about myself. And I go to these big conferences,

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like she's leading conferences and she's speaking and she's like,

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and I feel like I walk in the room and

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everyone looks great but me. Like, I just don't feel

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good about myself. And so... She hired me to come

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to her house. We spent four hours like going through

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her closet. And I think because she had gained weight,

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she was wearing oversized things to sort of cover herself

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up and looked bigger or like not put together. And

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I went through her closet and I just started putting

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things on her that were like, making outfits, right? Putting

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things like a fitted top with jeans, with a belt.

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She's like, a belt? Like I'm putting a belt on

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with a blazer or with a jacket. And I just

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remember turning herself, like turning her around to the mirror

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and her seeing herself like that for the first time

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and just lighting up. Like she was just like, oh

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my God, like I look so good in this. I

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feel so good in this. I had no idea. Like

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I knew I had good pieces, but like never would

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have put this together.

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Right.

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And Now we've been working together for, you know, a

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few months and now she's texting me like, I was

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just in New York for this meeting and here's what

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I put together. And everyone kept saying how great I

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looked and I felt so good. And I just know

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that she's like showing up to these things now with

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so much confidence and is so happy. And it makes

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me so happy. I just think there is like, yeah,

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this whole thing happening. It's not just this like external thing.

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Because when you walk into a room, especially with powerful

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people in there, you want to feel powerful, too. And

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when you're not feeling confident in yourself, I mean, I

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just don't think that you can feel powerful if you're

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not feeling you're not starting with yourself. So that's and

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clothes can do that for you.

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For sure, your whole behavior and the way you carry yourself,

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like it all changes.

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So let's talk about.

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The elephant in the room or rather the black yoga

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leggings or pants in the drawer. How did black leggings

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become every mom's default crutch and why is it so

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hard to break up with them?

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You know, I think that's so funny. I mean, we

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all have that drawer or shelf of black leggings right

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from over the years. I think... You know, at one point,

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I think they were a trend for sure. And it

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was stylish and it was fashionable. And at some point,

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it did become a uniform and a crutch. And, you know,

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I was thinking about this recently because I have a

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girlfriend who's like, I need to stop wearing leggings. Like,

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what am I switching into? What is cool? You know,

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what can I do? But, you know, like thinking about

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motherhood for sure, you know, like we're in our postpartum

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after having babies. Then, you know, every stage of life,

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our bodies change. Every week, our bodies change. And I

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think Leggings feel the same all the time. Like they

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always fit. They always feel fine. It's not like a

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pair of like rigid jeans that can really like break

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your heart some mornings, right? Where you're like, oh, I

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can't button these today.

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Great. Yeah.

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And I think they're just so easy to put together

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and easy for like an active lifestyle where you're like,

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I'm running errands and then I have a meeting and

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then I have pick up and drop off. And yeah,

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it just became like this, to your point, like a crutch.

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So I think that's why.

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Yeah. So can you, Can you give maybe three simple

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swaps for leggings that aren't going to take a lot

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of effort in the morning, but instantly kind of elevate

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your look?

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Yeah, I actually think like now's a great time to

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swap because there are some really fashionable, really easy things

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to swap into. like track pants, right? Track pants are

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such a big trend. Elastic waist, easy fabric, just pull

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them on. And honestly, you don't have to swap anything

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else from your legging outfit to wear with your track pants,

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but you'll just look like more modern and cooler and updated.

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on draw cord pants and shorts if you're in a,

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warm weather climate or over the summer that are so

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easy to just, again, pull on, throw on sandals or

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sneakers and look really chic. And then there's this like

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satin pant trend, too, that's also elastic, really easy, especially

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if you have like a happy hour or a night

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out that you can just throw on, again, a sweater, sandals,

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even during the day with a T-shirt and sneakers. But

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like you look like you were styled. Like you really

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look like you made an effort.

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you know, they're running out the door, they have the

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diaper bag, the lukewarm coffee. What's that like a three

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minute formula that they can use for looking pulled together

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when you are in that morning rush?

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Because it is so crazy.

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my God, what am I going to wear to drop off? Yeah.

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I think it's just, you know, pulling out your favorite

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like tank top or t-shirt and The track pant or

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the pull-on pant, the sneaker. And then if it's getting chilly,

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like what's the jacket that you have? Do you have

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a cool, I don't know, windbreaker or blazer or denim jacket?

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Like any little third topper that you can throw on

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over it. It's such an easy thing. And to be honest,

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if you even like take a few minutes and just

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like put some of those things together in your closet

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that you can just grab in the morning.

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Or like we were talking about before, just put those

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things in place of the leggings. And you have a

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really easy three minute, you know, kind of throw on

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outfit that looks like you really tried and made an effort.

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And so to go along those lines of like putting

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them kind of to the side, obviously we have so

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much decision fatigue as parents, so many decisions to make.

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How can women organize or streamline their closet so getting

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dressed actually reduces the mental load instead of adding to it?

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a closet that's disorganized, I can imagine just like the

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panic of looking for the one thing that you really

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want to wear that day. I have my closet organized

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by category. So I have a rail that's all tops,

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like button down shirts, lace, silk, you know, all those

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types of things. And then I have them categorized by color.

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So if I'm like, oh, I want that, you know,

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red top, I know where, like exactly what section it's

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in or white button down shirt, I know where it is.

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denim jackets, it's blazers, it's vests, you know, everything kind

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of is hung by category. I think the two things

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that are hard to find in the closet are jeans,

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because when they're folded up or hung, they all look

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the same. So I would say either label them or

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hang them by like color or style. So it's easy

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to find. And same with T-shirts. Like even in my drawer,

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I'm always like, where is that one T-shirt? And I'm

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pulling out and I'm like, nope, nope, nope. They all

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look the same. So same thing with that. Either like

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hang them or put them in categories of like the

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tank tops and the T-shirts and the long sleeve shirts.

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So like they're really easy to find.

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And so obviously style is something we want to we

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want to build and we want our, we want to

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look put together, but there's also that reality of if

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you're a mom, you have spills, you have dog hair,

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you're running errands, you have playground duty. How do we

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balance our style with all that messy reality?

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You know, a few things. One, obviously there's lint rollers.

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I have one in a cabinet by my door when

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I'm running out. I mean, keep one in the car.

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literally wrap a piece around your hand and just do that.

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Like that's An easy solve. We do that at work

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all the time also when there's things on clothes. So, yeah,

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I mean, listen, like kids are always grabbing at you

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with like messy hands and spilling things. I think wearing

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darker colors, wearing like busy prints. There's a reason why

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casino rugs are those busy, crazy patterns because they hide everything. So,

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you know, wear like a floral print or a crazy

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print and it will like cover everything. Yeah. But yeah,

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I mean, it's life. That's life of being a mom, right?

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Yeah. So there comes an age where following every TikTok

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or Instagram trend feels so exhausting. Like, how do you

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distinguish between a fleeting trend and personal style?

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Well, that's a good one. I mean, I don't think

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I could have handled TikTok trends even in my teens.

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It's like one day is like cottagecore and the next

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day is, I don't know, I don't know, cabincore. And

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you're like, I don't know, it's like whiplash every day.

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I think and on Instagram, I actually think a lot

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of people are talking about the same things, but it's

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like overload and, you know, an echo chamber and it

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just becomes, yeah, like how do you distinguish? Like there's

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so many micro trends that are just like in and out.

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I always say just dress for yourself. Like if it

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doesn't feel like you, if it is not your style,

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don't participate in it, right? If it's boho and you're like,

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but I'm minimalist, stay minimalist, stay classic. Like it's timeless.

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It's great. I don't think you have to be wearing

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a trend to be stylish and to be fashionable. And

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a little bit goes a long way. You know, like

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right now, Western is a trend. If you have a

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Western belt that you love, great, wear it. You know,

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like you don't need to be, especially as we get older,

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like we don't need to be everything to everyone. And

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I mean, to be honest, I think that's where the

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term fashion victim came from, right? It's like trying to

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be every single trend at once, even when it's not you.

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So I know. Yeah, I don't think we need to

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listen to TikTok.

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I definitely fall victim to that a lot. And so I, my,

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my next is going to be a selfish question because

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I'm going up to my college homecoming this weekend and

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we have things with, with college kids and we're going

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out at night and I'm like, what do I wear? Like,

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I don't want to look like I'm 40, but I

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also obviously don't want to look like I'm 20, but

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I want to look Cool. So what do you suggest?

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And the weather is going to be great. It's going

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to be like perfect fall weather. I think high of

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69 in the Poconos area. So what do you suggest

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for that? Like, how do I pull myself together?

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Yeah. I mean, this is going to sound like a

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really boring answer, but I think an amazing pair of jeans,

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like straight leg jeans, barrel jeans, whatever your favorite jeans are,

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a sleek pair of boots, a black top if you're

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like going out with a great belt, I think is perfect.

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timeless ageless I think 20 year olds will think you're

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cool I think 40 year olds will think you're cool

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and then if you have like a great jacket a

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plaid jacket you know like an anorak a windbreaker anything

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like that to kind of throw over it if it's

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chillier at night I think it's a great yeah college

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kind of going out outfit okay for someone in their 40s.

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Yeah, that is kind of what I had in my mind.

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So that really makes me feel a little bit more

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confident that a fashion queen can tell me that my

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mind was kind of.

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You already knew. You already knew.

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Going back. Okay, so I want to talk about some

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fashion myths. So let's talk about myth number one. And

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the first one is what so many moms say, I'll

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buy nice clothes when I lose weight. So we have

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postpartum bodies, we have aging bodies, changing shapes. So many

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women fight their current size. How do we start dressing

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and celebrate our body for what we have today rather

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than waiting for tomorrow?

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Yeah, I love this one. I mean, this is going

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to sound like an inspirational quote, but like tomorrow isn't

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a given. So let's be happy with ourselves today. To

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your point, like our bodies are always changing. So one

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day we might be happy and the next day we're not.

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And I think we just need to dress to feel

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like our best selves every single day. I don't know

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what we're waiting for in the future that might make

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us happier. You know, it's funny. I look at pictures

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from my 20s and even in my 20s, right? I

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was like nitpicking at things. And now I'm in my

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40s and I'm looking back at it like, what was

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I nitpicking? I looked great, you know? And now I'm

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thinking like, I'm going to be in my 60s looking

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at pictures in my 40s going like, what was I nitpicking?

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I looked great, you know?

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So I think also like as we get older, as.

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We become moms, like there's so many other things that

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become more important than like, Focusing on like something we

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don't love about ourselves, which nobody else sees probably except

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for us. Right. Yeah. So I would say like, don't

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wait for us. Don't wait to lose two pounds. Don't wait,

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you know, like dress for who you are and how

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you can feel like the best version of yourself today.

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I love that. All right.

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And myth number two is going to kind of go

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back to my question about going up to college, but

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I'm too old to wear that. How should a woman's

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perspective on style shift as she transitions from her 20s

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to her 30s to her 40s and beyond?

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You know, it's so funny. I was just thinking about

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this because I'm launching my first digital magazine, like a

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25 to 30 page magazine next week. And I was

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thinking about the magazines when we were growing up and

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they would always have those pages of like what to

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wear in your 20s, what to wear in your 30s,

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what to wear in your 40s. And it was so

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prescriptive that like when you're a certain age, you were

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supposed to dress a certain way. And I remember like

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my parents' generation, like you became a mom and all

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of a sudden like you had to cut your hair

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short into a bob and you were wearing like outfits

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and there were no more jeans and there were no

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more sneakers. And like it was so different. And now

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I just feel like We're just always evolving. And it's

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just like little things at a time that we're like,

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you know what? That's not me anymore. Like I have

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kids now and I don't need to wear crop tops

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when I go out. But maybe I want to like

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wear an off the shoulder top. You know, maybe there's

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like a different sexy that I want to wear now.

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And so I think it's like these small changes as

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we evolve. It's not these like I'm in my 30s now,

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so I can't dress like I did two years ago.

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You know, like I'm in a different era now. Yeah.

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So I think just like small evolutions.

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Let's get on to myth number three. I have nowhere

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to wear that. Why do we save our favorite pieces

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for special occasions? And why should we start wearing them

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to the grocery store or drop off?

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You know, I think this is the same thing as

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I'll buy nice clothes when I lose weight conversation. It's like,

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why are we saving things for the future? Like if

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you are investing in something and you love it, you

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should enjoy it. You should wear it. I'm not saying like,

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take your Birkin to the market, but you know, you

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do you. Like if you have one, great, enjoy it. No,

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I think like whatever we, yeah, if we love something

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and we feel great in it, we should be wearing

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it and enjoying it and not saving it. Like I

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feel like everyone has these pieces like wrapped in tissue

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in a box in their closet that's just sitting there waiting.

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And I'm not sure what we're waiting for. Yeah, I

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think if you're excited about something, wear it. Wherever you are.

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And myth number four, I'm so guilty of this. I

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need a whole new wardrobe. When a mom feels like

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she has nothing to wear, it's the problem. Usually the

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closet is like where she got nothing to wear. Why

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does maybe that mindset have to shift?

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I can tell you from the amount of like styling

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00:20:20.849 --> 00:20:23.049
clients that I have and closet edits that I've done.

454
00:20:24.309 --> 00:20:27.190
Almost everyone has the pieces in their closet. Like people

455
00:20:27.230 --> 00:20:29.190
think that I'm going to come in and just scrap

456
00:20:29.259 --> 00:20:31.160
their whole closet or they're like, I'm so embarrassed for

457
00:20:31.180 --> 00:20:33.890
you to see this closet. And I swear, like they

458
00:20:33.930 --> 00:20:36.109
have almost everything. You know, once in a while we're like,

459
00:20:36.470 --> 00:20:37.910
you need a belt or you need a cami or

460
00:20:37.950 --> 00:20:39.829
you need something that will just enable you to kind

461
00:20:39.869 --> 00:20:43.190
of wear everything in different ways and really utilize everything

462
00:20:43.210 --> 00:20:45.019
in your closet. But nine times out of 10, like

463
00:20:45.339 --> 00:20:47.680
you have everything you need. You just need to know

464
00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.279
how to mix it. And maybe that's part of the evolution, right?

465
00:20:51.299 --> 00:20:52.940
From like our 20s to our 30s, it's like we're

466
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wearing it in different ways or for different occasions. But

467
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I think I'm in 99% sure that you have almost

468
00:20:59.789 --> 00:21:02.900
everything you need in your closet right now. I know.

469
00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:05.549
It's so funny because I'll see other people and I'll

470
00:21:05.569 --> 00:21:08.690
be like, oh my God, that looks so great on them.

471
00:21:08.829 --> 00:21:13.309
And then I'll realize, well, I have a similar outfit,

472
00:21:13.349 --> 00:21:15.470
but why don't I look that good? And it's like,

473
00:21:15.569 --> 00:21:18.569
whatever the trend is, say it's a certain earrings or

474
00:21:18.630 --> 00:21:20.470
the double necklace. And I'm like, oh, they look so

475
00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:22.740
good because they have the double necklace. And I started

476
00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:24.779
to realize that I'll say it to myself multiple times.

477
00:21:24.819 --> 00:21:27.170
I'm like, why am I not going to buy that

478
00:21:27.230 --> 00:21:31.230
piece to put myself together? Like I can do that too.

479
00:21:31.380 --> 00:21:33.440
And then once I do that, I'm like, oh my God,

480
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:35.319
it was that simple as like, you know, you said

481
00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.779
getting a certain belt or like a certain accessory. And

482
00:21:38.819 --> 00:21:41.799
sometimes I feel like that's all people need to put

483
00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.799
what they have together in their wardrobe. Yeah.

484
00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:46.740
Or just taking three minutes and being like, you know what?

485
00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:48.980
I have so many necklaces. Let me just play to

486
00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:51.400
see like which two or three will look good together

487
00:21:51.500 --> 00:21:54.049
and put it together. Sometimes it's just like, someone put

488
00:21:54.069 --> 00:21:56.950
something together in a different way than maybe you wouldn't,

489
00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:59.539
you would have, or you hadn't thought of it. And

490
00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:00.960
then you go and play in your closet and you're like,

491
00:22:00.980 --> 00:22:01.880
oh wait, I can do that too.

492
00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:02.259
Yeah.

493
00:22:02.660 --> 00:22:03.599
We can be cool too.

494
00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.240
That's what I keep telling myself. And then let's talk

495
00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:09.880
about myth number five. Fashion just isn't important right now.

496
00:22:10.029 --> 00:22:12.289
So a lot of people will say that maybe it's deflection,

497
00:22:12.349 --> 00:22:15.009
maybe it's, you know, whatever they're going through, but How

498
00:22:15.049 --> 00:22:19.049
do you respond when someone dismisses personal style as secondary

499
00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:22.349
to everything else on a mom's plate?

500
00:22:22.509 --> 00:22:24.319
Yeah, you know, I think there's, as you were talking,

501
00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.220
there was like a distinction between fashion, like capital F

502
00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.259
and what's going on in fashion and personal style and

503
00:22:30.299 --> 00:22:32.720
how you're getting dressed and how you feel about yourself.

504
00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.369
I think if you're like, I just don't want to

505
00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:38.150
spend the money on new things right now, that's different

506
00:22:38.190 --> 00:22:40.670
than I don't want to take the time to put

507
00:22:40.710 --> 00:22:43.990
things on that I will feel my best in, right?

508
00:22:44.029 --> 00:22:45.630
Like look and feel my best. I feel like those

509
00:22:45.650 --> 00:22:48.690
are two different things. And taking that time for your

510
00:22:48.819 --> 00:22:51.619
own personal style, I think is important. Like we mentioned,

511
00:22:51.660 --> 00:22:53.839
like the psychology of it and how we feel throughout

512
00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.940
our day, you know, participating in fashion and having the

513
00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.619
time and having the budget and all of that is

514
00:22:58.660 --> 00:23:01.460
a totally separate thing. But sometimes it's even just like

515
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.019
one or two new things a season that you can

516
00:23:04.099 --> 00:23:06.160
mix in with everything else you have so that you

517
00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:10.299
feel really like current and on trend and, you know,

518
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.240
fun and like that you're excited about. And it doesn't

519
00:23:13.259 --> 00:23:16.200
have to be, to your point of the question before,

520
00:23:16.259 --> 00:23:19.549
like a complete wardrobe overhaul. Yeah.

521
00:23:19.829 --> 00:23:22.670
And so I'm a huge thrifter. I found so many

522
00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:25.809
amazing pieces thrifting. And I feel like so then I

523
00:23:25.849 --> 00:23:27.970
don't feel as bad when I'm spending money on like

524
00:23:28.150 --> 00:23:29.029
maybe a higher.

525
00:23:28.829 --> 00:23:29.950
End piece per season.

526
00:23:30.009 --> 00:23:33.130
Yeah. But for the people listening who love to thrift

527
00:23:33.259 --> 00:23:36.460
like myself, what are some things that maybe we should

528
00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:39.759
look for when we are thrifting that could really complete

529
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.660
certain pieces of our especially coming up for fall?

530
00:23:42.740 --> 00:23:45.660
Like what should we be looking for? Yes, I love thrifting.

531
00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:49.349
thrifting and vintage hunting like finding a hidden treasure is

532
00:23:50.069 --> 00:23:52.900
there's nothing like it now I was visiting a friend

533
00:23:52.940 --> 00:23:55.380
in San Francisco and we like we passed a goodwill

534
00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:57.599
and everything was on sale for like $ 2. 99 and I

535
00:23:58.339 --> 00:24:00.420
found a black sweatshirt and I swear it's my favorite

536
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.960
like I love that then like some pieces like some

537
00:24:02.980 --> 00:24:05.250
sweatshirts I've spent so much money on right there's something

538
00:24:05.289 --> 00:24:07.869
so funny about that but yeah I think obviously like

539
00:24:08.230 --> 00:24:10.029
the sweatshirts and the t-shirts and the jeans and things

540
00:24:10.049 --> 00:24:11.950
that like are your basics but if you can find

541
00:24:11.990 --> 00:24:15.539
like a great leather jacket They're like they were so

542
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.420
well made in the past. And they I mean, they

543
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.000
don't go out of style ever. So I also think

544
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.420
blazers are great. There's always so much so many in

545
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.089
the men's side that you could also look for, like

546
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.640
a great oversized blazer that you can also wear as

547
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:31.349
like a jacket. I didn't think about that. Yeah, I

548
00:24:31.390 --> 00:24:34.569
think those two things are like like gold because they're

549
00:24:34.589 --> 00:24:36.529
so expensive to buy now. And if you can find

550
00:24:36.569 --> 00:24:40.150
a great one thrifting, it's like the holy grail.

551
00:24:41.170 --> 00:24:43.930
Something that thrifting really has, I feel like, taught me

552
00:24:44.089 --> 00:24:46.430
is about material of things. And like, you know, so

553
00:24:46.450 --> 00:24:49.440
I'm looking at 100% linen, if it's something like that,

554
00:24:49.500 --> 00:24:52.599
or like, you know, 100% cotton or silk or whatever.

555
00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:54.960
And I've definitely been able to feel pieces more where

556
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:56.880
I think, oh, this is going to be a good piece.

557
00:24:56.980 --> 00:25:00.329
I can tell just by feeling it, which is so

558
00:25:00.390 --> 00:25:03.000
fun to do and learn. So we are on the

559
00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:05.859
Running Wine, Mom. So I have to ask, if your

560
00:25:06.019 --> 00:25:08.740
current personal style were a glass of wine, what would

561
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.400
it be? And what glass of wine would be your

562
00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:13.720
worst fashion phase?

563
00:25:14.660 --> 00:25:16.740
I mean, I want to say Riesling just because it's

564
00:25:16.789 --> 00:25:19.990
my favorite and I always want Riesling. Yeah. I would

565
00:25:20.049 --> 00:25:23.049
say a glass of wine right now would be a

566
00:25:23.369 --> 00:25:26.490
Burgundy because I think it gets better with age. And

567
00:25:26.509 --> 00:25:28.990
I feel like my style has gotten better over time.

568
00:25:29.470 --> 00:25:32.369
I think I've really honed in on... What looks best

569
00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:35.190
on me? You know, I would try so many things

570
00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:37.390
that like weren't me or didn't fit or whatever. And

571
00:25:37.430 --> 00:25:40.990
I'm done doing that. So I feel like, yeah, I

572
00:25:41.049 --> 00:25:43.160
feel like my style has evolved and gotten better over time.

573
00:25:43.180 --> 00:25:46.019
So I would say a burgundy. And worst fashion phase,

574
00:25:46.619 --> 00:25:49.000
I think orange wine. I feel like because it was

575
00:25:49.059 --> 00:25:51.240
such a fad and it was supposed to be great.

576
00:25:51.259 --> 00:25:51.339
Yeah.

577
00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:54.490
And I just think it's personally, I think it's terrible.

578
00:25:54.589 --> 00:25:57.190
So I would say that was probably my worst fashion phase.

579
00:25:57.740 --> 00:26:00.730
I just heard about orange wine recently and I was like,

580
00:26:00.849 --> 00:26:02.609
I didn't even know that was a thing, but I

581
00:26:02.710 --> 00:26:04.609
just don't feel like it could possibly be that good.

582
00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:06.769
You know, I think you can forget that you've ever

583
00:26:06.849 --> 00:26:08.170
even heard about it. I think it's fine.

584
00:26:08.210 --> 00:26:08.470
Oh, good.

585
00:26:08.490 --> 00:26:10.369
If it didn't exist, I think it would be fine.

586
00:26:10.650 --> 00:26:10.950
All right.

587
00:26:10.970 --> 00:26:13.970
Well, this was so informative, especially for myself, but I

588
00:26:14.029 --> 00:26:16.339
know everybody listening is going to just learn so much

589
00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:19.640
about this. It's just so great to talk to someone

590
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.240
who's as knowledgeable as you in the fashion world when...

591
00:26:22.990 --> 00:26:25.470
myself and I'm sure a lot of people listening are,

592
00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:28.089
it's a struggle because it's something every day that you

593
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.859
have to figure out just like packing kids' lunches, you know? Yeah.

594
00:26:32.940 --> 00:26:36.140
It's more mental load for yourself, right? Yeah.

595
00:26:36.299 --> 00:26:39.180
For the mom staring into her closet tomorrow morning and

596
00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:41.839
dreading it, what's the one thing that you want her

597
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:43.900
to know and what's one step that she can take

598
00:26:44.059 --> 00:26:47.490
to start on her new fashion journey? Yeah.

599
00:26:47.529 --> 00:26:51.210
I want you to know that I am a very

600
00:26:51.250 --> 00:26:53.650
confident that you have the pieces in your closet and

601
00:26:53.670 --> 00:26:55.859
you just need to put them together a different way

602
00:26:56.609 --> 00:26:59.430
If you're still wearing leggings, try to swap them out.

603
00:26:59.890 --> 00:27:02.690
Baby steps, make some small changes. Maybe you have track

604
00:27:02.730 --> 00:27:04.920
pants or pull-on pants or satin pants or, you know,

605
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.099
something else that's really easy that you can literally just

606
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.519
swap that one thing for. And Samantha, I don't know

607
00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:12.119
if your listeners would like this, but I would also

608
00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:15.839
be happy to put together like a little guide for them,

609
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.819
like a little formula, like PDF or something.

610
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:18.039
Yeah.

611
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.519
If that would be helpful. I would love that. Like

612
00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:21.720
here's three looks or five looks that you probably already

613
00:27:21.740 --> 00:27:24.160
have in your closet that would just like really easy

614
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:24.759
to put together.

615
00:27:24.779 --> 00:27:24.859
Yeah.

616
00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:27.160
That would be great.

617
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:27.799
Yeah. Okay.

618
00:27:27.819 --> 00:27:28.220
I'll do that.

619
00:27:29.220 --> 00:27:31.619
Yeah. I'm so excited for the PDF. I know the

620
00:27:31.660 --> 00:27:34.240
listeners will too. So everyone be on the lookout for

621
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.740
that after this episode ends. And I think that's a

622
00:27:36.779 --> 00:27:39.140
great place to end it. So Jamie, thank you so much.

623
00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.279
I feel like I got permission to wear the good

624
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.859
outfit to the grocery store and swap out those leggings.

625
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:46.059
So thank you for that.

626
00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:47.619
Thank you for having me. I hope I run into

627
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:48.440
you at the grocery store.

628
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.240
Yes, my new fashion. So as always, thank you so

629
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.819
much for spending time with us today on The Running

630
00:27:53.859 --> 00:27:56.069
Wine Mom. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and

631
00:27:56.109 --> 00:27:58.109
share this episode with a mom who needs to hear it.

632
00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:01.509
You can follow me on Instagram at TheRunningWineMom underscore. And Jamie,

633
00:28:01.569 --> 00:28:02.750
where can the listeners find you?

634
00:28:02.990 --> 00:28:05.440
You can find me at JamieNYC and you can find

635
00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:06.619
Vetted at VettedMag.

636
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.220
Perfect. And I will link all of that. So thank

637
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.410
you so much for joining us today. Remember, you are strong,

638
00:28:12.430 --> 00:28:14.650
you are capable, and you are all amazing. Until next time,

639
00:28:14.690 --> 00:28:17.460
keep running, keep sipping, keep up with that fashion, and

640
00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:19.400
keep embracing the joy of motherhood. Cheers.

641
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.970
And I'll be back next Tuesday. Thanks, Jamie. Thank you.