June 16, 2026

Kids Skincare Explained: A Dermatologist’s Guide to Sunscreen, Sephora Trends & Healthy Habits

Kids Skincare Explained: A Dermatologist’s Guide to Sunscreen, Sephora Trends & Healthy Habits
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Kids Skincare, Sunscreen & the Truth About Sephora Routines with Dr. Angela CaseySkincare has become a full-blown trend among kids and tweens, but how much of it is actually helping—and how much could be causing harm?In this episode of The Running Wine Mom, Samantha sits down with dermatologist, skin cancer surgeon, and Bright Girl founder Dr. Angela Casey to separate fact from fiction when it comes to youth skincare. From the rise of "Sephora Kids" to sunscreen myths, acne struggles, and building healthy habits that last a lifetime, this conversation is packed with practical advice every parent needs to hear. Dr. Casey shares insights from her work as Head of Dermatologic Surgery at OhioHealth, her role on the Forbes Health Advisory Board, and her mission to help families simplify skincare while protecting long-term skin health. Whether you're raising toddlers, tweens, or teens, you'll walk away knowing exactly what products matter, what ingredients to avoid, and why sunscreen remains the most important skincare product of all. In This Episode✔️ Why kids don't need complicated skincare routines✔️ The truth about retinol, acids, and viral Sephora trends✔️ What parents should know about skin cancer prevention✔️ How skincare habits compare to brushing your teeth✔️ The biggest skincare mistakes parents are making✔️ Why sunscreen is still the gold standard✔️ How social media is influencing children's self-image✔️ What healthy skincare should look like at every age✔️ The inspiration behind Bright Girl✔️ The role of prevention in lifelong skin healthMemorable Quotes"Skincare should be just like brushing and flossing your teeth every day—a non-negotiable daily habit with huge long-term benefits." "Skincare doesn't have to be complicated, but it does need to be consistent." "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Resources & Links

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The best sunscreen is the sun's screen that your kiddo

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likes using, and the key the name of the game

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when it comes to skin health and sun protection is

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avoiding sunburns.

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Welcome back to the Running wind Mom podcast. I'm your host,

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Samantha Selinsky aka the Running Wine Mom. Today's conversation is

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one I've been wanting to have for a while because

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the topic keeps coming up in my DMS and conversations

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at school, even just talking to other moms. Skincare for

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kids as completely exploded. We're seeing eight nine ten year

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olds with full routines products we didn't even use until

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our twenties, and honestly, it's hard to know what actually

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helps versus what's just noise. So I wanted to bring

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in someone who doesn't just talk about this. She sees

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the long term impact of it every single day. Doctor

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Angela Casey is a dermatologist and skincare surgeon, the head

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of the Dermatological Surgery at Ohio Health, and she also

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serves on the four Health Advisory Board, so she's helping

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shape how health information is shared on a national level.

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But what really stood out to me is the work

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she's doing for kids and families, helping them build simple,

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realistic habits early on that actually matter long term. But

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she's also the founder of Bright Girl, a dermatologist developed

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skincare line created specifically for young skin because she saw

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firsthand what was missing. We're talking about what kids actually need,

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what they don't need, what's happening with these viral skincare trends,

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and how we as parents can help take a step

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back and do this in a way that's healthy and

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not overwhelming. So if you've ever stood in a skincare

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aisle thinking wait, what am I actually supposed to buy,

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this episode is for you. So, without further ado, let's

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welcome doctor Angela Casey.

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Welcome.

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Thank you so much, Samantha. I'm super excited to be

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here and connect with your listeners.

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Yes, I am so excited because skin is our biggest

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organ and it is so important, and so we're going

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to get all into the nitty gritty of it. But

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before we start to start, each episode, we start with

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our wine wine and one of the week segments. This

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is where we share our favorite bottle of wine, then

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about something that's been bothering us, and celebrate our recent victory.

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So grab a glass, take a deep breath, and let's

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get started. So, doctor Casey, what is your drinking wine

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of the week?

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So I don't drink anymore.

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Sleep has won out in the alcohol sleep battle. Wait,

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I really started to affect me in recent years, so

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I no longer drink. But I would say my daily

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go to that I need in order to properly start

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my day, and my day is not complete without it

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is my coffee recipe, which is really complicated. If you

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ask my husband to ever make me a coffee or replicated,

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it gives him severe anxiety because there are so many ingredients.

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It's literally, i'm not exaggerating, like eight ingredients, and it's

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so balanced and perfect and it's still goodness like collagen

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and cocoa powder and a little bit of the mushroom

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coffee of caf hafty calf espresso, macedamia nut milk, a

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little heavy whipping creams and vanilla coffee creamer, like all

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sorts of goodness. It's delicious and it's not too sweet,

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but it really helps me focus and get my day

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started on the right foot.

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As you're saying this, I'm thinking, look, I could probably

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do this.

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I need to add collagen back into my coffee.

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I did.

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I did it for a long time and then I

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kind of just stopped. But you know, I hearing it

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from you now, I'm like, all right, tomorrow, I'm going

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to restart it.

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We can talk about it. But just really, in a nutshell,

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there's a lot of clinical evidence, like legit clinical studies

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that demonstrate that collagen does have a demonstrable effect on

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the appearance of our skin. So anybody who's out there

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who's saying it's just like woo woo and there's no

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basis for it, that's not true. We have objective data

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and it's a really easy thing to throw into your

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routine in the morning, just as scoop or two is

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enough to give you those benefits.

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Yeah, and that makes me feel better because I never know,

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you never know with like everything, Oh is this real?

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Is this not?

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Is this just like a placebo? And I think my

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skin looks better, So that is great to know. So

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what is your complaint Wine of the week?

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I will say.

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It is the other night when I was ready to

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go to bed and like my husband was yapping on

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the phone with a very like intense conversation with his

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brother over like I don't know what. And I was like,

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you have to shut it down. It's time to wind down,

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and he's like, oh no, And those two are like

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like two high school girls, like ye.

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So that's that's my wine.

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When it's time to go to bed, like I want

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everybody in the house to settle down. And now having

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teens and tweens and a husband who's a little bit

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of a night owl, I lose that battle and it's

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like the loss, like I don't have control over it.

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I just have to like find a way to cope.

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So that's my wine.

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I think men are very underrated in their conversation. My

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husband talks on the phone way more than I do.

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Like I'm texting all the time, but phone conversations, I'm like,

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oh my gosh, it's been forty minutes.

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I know, they get deep into it, like they have

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these really like meaningful, intense conversations. It's good, but like

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better at like six in the evening and that tenant night. Yeah.

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So what's your win of the week. Well, it was

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very exciting this week. I was really honored to that

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my company, my practice group, announced that I am the

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chair of the quality Council for our entire practice group.

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So I was selected among We have hundreds of dermatologists

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in our practice group and about two hundred dermatology practices

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across the country. And to be chosen to chair the

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Quality Council means that I will work with some of

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the other doctors, but I'll kind of head up initiatives

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and being best in class and patient care and really

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staying on the leading edge of new and emerging dermatology treatments,

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really being thought leaders in our specialty. And this is

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all stuff I love, and it all kind of feeds

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into what I'm doing with Bright Girl. So it was

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just a huge honor to be recognized for that, and

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I can't wait to dig in and get started.

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Oh that's amazing, Krads, what an honor. Wow, that's so great.

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And I just I mean, I love learning, and so

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I can't imagine how cool it is to learn like

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all the newest things in the dermatology world.

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aligned with that mission. So our practice group is called

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Qualderm Partners, but it's under different practice names in different areas.

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But if you live somewhere where there's a pinnacle dermatology

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practice or a qualderm practice. I would highly recommend because

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we're very selective about the physicians and providers in the group,

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and it's one of I think the many things that

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sets our group apart cool.

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And I always like to ask my guests, what's one

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significant challenge you've successfully navigated shaping your journey to where

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you are today.

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I would say it relates to founding Bright Girl, because

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I have no business background. In college, I majored in

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molecular biology in mathematics, and then I went right to

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medical school and right into dermatology training. So at no

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point in my journey did I have any sort of

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marketing or business experience. And I share that because if

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I can do it, anybody can. So many of us

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have imposter syndrome. You and I were talking about that

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ahead of this call. We think like, oh, we don't

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have the formal training or we don't have the traditional path,

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but really it's proof that you can navigate around those

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obstacles and it's just a matter of staying curious and

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asking for help when you need it.

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I know business is so scary, and I just even

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I mean for myself for sure, I mean I have

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an LLC and that was scary enough. I can't imagine

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making a product which is just it's my moste.

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Yeah, one put in front of the other.

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Like you're just like getting your trademark and making sure

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everything's legal and registered, so many things, all the compliance

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that comes with having a personal care product, so you've

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got to do regulatory studies and so all of that,

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and it just is like again you go step by

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step and go to experts when you don't have the answer.

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But I hope that any of your listeners who are

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thinking of starting a business like you can do it

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as just a matter of putting in the work, doing

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a little bit of research and you'll get there.

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Cool.

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So the running line, Mom, we talk a little fitness.

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What's your favorite way to stay active?

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Oh my gosh, I love this.

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I am so fitness is so core to me from

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the time I was like in middle school. Smith, It's

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really important. It's very much a priority in my life.

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So at this stage in my life some in my forties,

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it is very much about strength training. And fortunately I

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have been strength training since my late twenties and I

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think it has saved me in so many levels with

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my energy with my bone density. It sul mass helping

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to keep everything in balance and to help me through

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my pregnancies. So I strength train most mornings, almost every morning,

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alternating muscle groups, and I love to walk in the evenings,

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especially when it's nice.

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I live in.

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Ohio, so the weather can be a little iffy at

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certain times of years. But I think anytime you can

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get outside and walk, and it's about that outdoor experience,

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the sunlight or as the sun setting really helps support

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circadian rhythm.

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Yes, what about you? Well, I right now am in.

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I am into the rowing boot camps and peloton like

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that's what I've been doing. I like the tread boot camps.

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I really love them at my gym. But tonight, for

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the first time I tried we just got a new

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beautiful tower pilates studio in my gym. I guess it's

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like it's tower, I think that's what it's called, but

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with like the big But I tried that tonight and

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I think I'm hooked immediately, Like I got such a

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good workout from it. But I'm kind and I know

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the running Like now, once it gets to be spring,

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I'll be outside running more. But right now, my running

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is just really on the tread boot camps up for

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the time being.

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But I'm excited for such a good workout.

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Sounds like a good energy class that like you get

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energy from like other people in the class.

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And yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm definitely like to do

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group classes to get myself like, but then I like

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doing it individually too. But I love my gym so much,

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like it's my favorite, one of my favorite place.

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It's such a community.

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It's so funny to look back and how I've developed

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these friendships and these support groups through gyms, and not

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just one gym, but different gyms.

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And then my husband and I and sometimes.

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Our older daughters do Orange Theory every day and it's

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like we joke it's like our church before church, Like

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we do Orange Theory and then we get to church

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after that. But it's become a really nice tradition. We've

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done it for ten years straight, Oh's and it's just

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a nice like family bonding is the fun. As the

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girls have gotten old enough.

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To go that.

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Well, how does maintaining your fitness routine align with your

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mental health?

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It saves me.

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There is no way I would have the energy and

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the focus to do what I do without working out,

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and I honestly try to do it first thing in

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the morning, Samantha, because it really sets the tone of

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my day, my workout and my coffee both and bright

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Girl tinted sunscreen. Those are my green not negot the

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do I think when we are performing that self care,

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it really feeds into our health and wellness. And I

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am a huge, huge believer in prioritizing that. It's never

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a person that put my kids first. In fact, I

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would say it's maybe one of my flaws is that

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I can be selfish in the sense that I really

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need to do that for myself because otherwise, like the

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wheels fall off and.

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by yeah that, and I.

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Encourage it because I think so often as we put

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ourselves on the back burner and we say like, oh,

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it's not that important, like I need to be here

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for my kid or I need to do this, and

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it's that old saying like we can only be our

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best moms when we're taking care of ourselves.

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And I've said this a few times on my podcast.

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runner and she and we were talking and I said,

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you know, my mom's a big runner and she always

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ran when we were, you know, growing up. She took

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that time for herself. And she goes, oh, yeah, that's

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probably why you don't feel guilty as a mom working out,

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and I was like, wow, I never thought of that,

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because like, I never cared that my mom went for

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a run like I didn't. I wasn't like, oh my.

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God, where is she? She's ever coming back.

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I love reframing it like that. I never thought of

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it that way. But you're right, we are setting the

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examples for our kids when we yeah perform these actions

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like we're walking the walk, and they will go into

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their adult lot saying like it's okay to create space

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to do these things that are important to me.

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For sure. Yeah, I was such like an aha moment.

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I'm like, oh my god, because I always felt weird,

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like I never really feel guilty going to work out

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because it's like I need to work out and you know,

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talking to it. And then I was like, she was like,

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it's probably because your mom did that, and you realize

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how important.

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I was like Wow, that probably makes sense.

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That is so true. That's a really good way to

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frame it.

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Yeah, so let's talk about parenthood.

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Tell us about your family.

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So we have three teen and tween daughters. So my husband,

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Michael and I have been married for twenty years.

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So we met when I was doing my dermatology residency

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in Pittsburgh and he lived in Pittsburgh. And he's so

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amazing because through the medical training journey, he like stayed

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in Pittsburgh.

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Why finished residency and.

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Vermont and I'm going to do my fellowship there. So

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he moved to Vermont, and then I was like, oh,

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we're gonna move to Ohio because there's a good job

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for me there and it's closer to family. So he

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Michael always says in every relationship, there is the wheat

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and there is the wind. So the wheat and is

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this flexible and it bends back and forth and the

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wind just comes in and it's like like we're you

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know this way.

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So I'm the wind, He's the wheat.

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He's an amazing, amazing partner and I couldn't do what

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I do without him. And then we have three daughters

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who are now seventeen, fourteen, and eleven, and I love

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this stage so much.

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I mean, I've loved every stage with them.

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But they're becoming young adults and our oldest is starting

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to think about college. Our middle one just today we

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found out got accepted to Vogue Fashion School this summer

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in New York City. So we see them like, you know,

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this independence and like achieving you know, these aspirations and

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working hard and seeing that payoff, and it's just such

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a fun time.

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I know your kiddos are a little bit younger.

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And that stage so much you because they're so loving

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and snuggling, but they're still like old enough that you

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can do a lot, Like there's some independence with the

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older ones and then yeah, and they kind of look

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out for each other and like mother the younger.

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What do you think you were at least prepared for

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in parenthood.

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I would say it was like the time management. I've

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been like pretty good about time. I thought I thought

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I was good at time management. I was a high

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school and college athlete and you know obviously like a

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very dedicated student, so I was I always thought like, oh,

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I've got this, like I've managed time my whole life,

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and then it was like everything just takes so much

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longer than especially.

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When their time not yours. You know, how about how.

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Many times that I remember, like trying to feed them

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when I'm trying to get out the door. We were

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always late for everything. What's been your biggest challenge?

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it was the sleep, Like I did not. I still

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am not over it. I mean now they sleep great,

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which is awesome. But I think just like the zero

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to one was super hard for me to just realize.

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It's like how I mean, everyone says your life changes,

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but like you're it's changed completely. And I was like

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excited for that, but I wasn't as ready as I

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thought that I was going to be. But you know,

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and now it's just like this is my life. But

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that zero to one, like going from zero kids to

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one kid was a huge, huge, That's what I was

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least prepared for. And seriously, and the fourth trimester, like

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I didn't even know that was a thing. Nobody talked

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about that I was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna have

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this baby, and I'm gonna go drink my wine and

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I'm going to like carry it around, and it was

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not the case.

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It was for us.

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It was we did pretty well with our first one,

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and we were like very arrogant about it, like we

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were our motto was like, how baby, we'll travel and

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we brought you everywhere. We're like, we're not stopping our lives.

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And then number two came along and everything came to

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a screeching halt.

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Were like, all right, you're like, okay, you want Yeah,

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what do you think your parenting style is?

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I am definitely like how do I deligating parent? That's okay,

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delegation parent?

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Like I outsource everything I possibly can, Like I don't

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want to deal with homework, I don't want to deal

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with cleaning, I don't want to deal with laundry, grocery,

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shopping anything.

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I outsource it.

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And that is truly Samantha you mentioned before the podcast,

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like how do you do all this? It is because

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I have no problem and I'm not I'm a pretty

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laid back person when it comes to that. So if

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somebody does my laundry and shrinks something, I'm like, well

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that's you know, that is what it is, Like I'm

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not going to get that, but it is truly the

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only way that I can manage what I do and

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still have time for my family. And I think I

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fall short in being there enough for the kids because

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I am so busy with work and Bright Girl and

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all these obligations. But that's just it's life choices. I've

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chosen that life, so it really I have to make

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it a priority, and I do when I'm with them,

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like I'm one hundred percent focused with them.

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like what do you do when you don't have a village?

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And people are like, you can pay for your village.

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You just have to pay for it, Like and there's

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nothing wrong with doing that if you're going to be

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able to be more present at home, Like paying people

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to do things that makes you more present is so

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important for people to realize that, like they should.

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They should do.

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One of the ways.

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I forget the book, but it was all about this

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when you think about like if you could work an

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extra like three hours in the work week and you

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make x amount, Like if you can do that and

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like pay somebody to do certain time to clean your

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house which would take five or six hours, or to

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run your kids from sports practice, which takes however, many

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hours ten twenty hours of the week. So that has

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been so helpful for me to kind of reframe it

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like that. And we do not have any family here

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in town, so we have always had to hire people

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or else depend on friends and can reciprocate. But I

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think there's always a way. So maybe it's like trading

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with a friend who has kids in similar ages, or

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if you have a family member that can help out sometimes.

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But it's so important, and too often as moms we

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feel like we have to take it all on and

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it has to be perfect. And you know, our house

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is not perfect all the time, and it drives me

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a little crazy because I like a clean, organized space,

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but I have it's something I have to let go. Yeah,

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I have to let it go. I'm not gonna go

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crazy over it.

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It's I get it. I totally understand.

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It's just yeah, it's a part of doing of trying

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to do it all anyway, right. And what's one piece

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of advice you would give to other parents.

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I would say, recognize your strengths and what you love

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to do. So if you love cooking, go make things

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for the bake sale and do that. And cook your

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family whomade meals, and if you love going to sports

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practices and games, do that. But like it's okay to

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say no to all the other stuff. So when the

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school comes to you and they're like, can you make

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some muffins for our bake sale and you don't want

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to do it.

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It's going to say no.

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Maybe you can donate some money, or donate some time,

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or do something else. I think being really clear in

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what we love doing as parents and using our talents

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in that way and not taking on all the other

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things because it sucks so much of our energy. If

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it's something you don't like doing, it's going to be

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so negative, where if it's something we enjoy, then it's

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a win win and you're helping somebody and.

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Doing what you love.

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Yeah, that's great advice because I do feel the guilt

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of like having to do all of that stuff. And

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they're only in preschool, so I can't imagine how it'll

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be as it goes forward.

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All right, well, let's get into you.

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Tell us a little about yourself and the creation of

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the break Girls line.

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Yeah.

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So I am a double board certified dermatologist and micrographic

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dermatologic surgeon I mentioned earlier. I'm based in Columbus, so High,

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which is like the best hidden secret of a town.

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If you haven't been here, it is like a hidden gem.

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It is such an awesome place to live. We've been

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here almost twenty years now. And in my practice every

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day I treat skin cancers with a process called most

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surgery microscopically controlled skin cancer surgery. So I surgically remove

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a skin cancer from a patient, usually from the head

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or neck, a very sensitive cosmetically sensitive area. The skin

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that I remove I then analyze under the microscope and

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I'm tracking out all the cancer cells in real time

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while the patient's there at the office. And after we've

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cleared all the cancer cells and I perform reconstructive surgery,

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so it's all done the same day. Patient comes in

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with their cancer, they leave with it gone, and everything

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is fixed up and reconstructed. And it's a really amazing

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and gratifying field of medicine.

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I love it.

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I look forward to going into work every day. But

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what I was hearing from my patients pretty much daily,

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if not a couple times a week, was doctor Casey.

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I just never knew how to take care of my

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skin I still get confused about how to take care

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of my skin. And when I was younger, we didn't

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have skincare products, we didn't have sunscreens. And I know

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that the skin cancer I'm treating today didn't start five

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or ten years ago. It's rooted all the way back

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to childhood when the damage started to occur and started

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to accumulate. And so I'm hearing this every day, and

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then I'm mothering, you know, we're parenting our three daughters,

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and I'm struggling to get them to wear sunscreen, which

475
00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:36.240
is the biggest mom fail as a dermatologist. And I thought, like,

476
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.720
there is such like a mismatch here. Why are there

477
00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.920
not brands that are really tailored to young people, that

478
00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:45.400
really connect with them and make them excited about their

479
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.359
skincare and that are really exceptional in terms of the

480
00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.319
quality and the ingredients and teaching them those good habits.

481
00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.720
So that kind of led into my side gig quote

482
00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.880
unquote that's quickly becoming like another full time job because

483
00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:03.759
I still practice dermatology and most surgery full time. And

484
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.680
that was founding Bright Girl and really with a mission

485
00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.519
to educate and empower our young people of how to

486
00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.160
care for their skin. To give moms a solution of

487
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.160
what skincare do I get from my daughter who is interested,

488
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:21.799
I have no idea. There are thousands of brands and

489
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.880
which one do I trust? Well, we're going to give

490
00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:28.480
you the brand that a dermatologist created for her own daughters,

491
00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:32.119
and so that has been an exciting journey. I'm happy

492
00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:35.720
to get more into that. But that, Chalice, is what

493
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:36.960
I'm doing these days.

494
00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:37.799
Awesome.

495
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.200
And you also serve on the Forbes Health Advisory Board,

496
00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.799
which puts you in conversations that are shaping how health

497
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.519
information really reaches millions of people. How has that experience

498
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.559
changed the way you think about educating parents and cutting

499
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.440
through all that online noise.

500
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.599
Yeah, it has really helped me identify what are the

501
00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:01.039
myths out there, what's top of mind for the general

502
00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.839
public in terms of skin health and skincare concerns. So

503
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.200
it's giving me a little bit of extra insight into

504
00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.680
that and also giving me the opportunity to deep dive

505
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.759
into the research when there is a question like that,

506
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:16.519
let's look at the pros and cons and what's the evidence.

507
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:20.440
Because I will never make recommendations based on like a

508
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:24.160
story or like an emotional like, oh I feel this

509
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:27.400
way about it. I really constantly come back to data

510
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.799
and evidence, and I think that's important as physicians that

511
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:35.160
we're looking at that when we're counseling and advising individuals,

512
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:40.119
but then also understanding the place where an individual person

513
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.799
is coming from. So you've got to really match those

514
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.519
two worlds. It's never a one size fits all, but

515
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.519
having that evidence and that information is a base is

516
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.519
very helpful in providing context to people as they're making

517
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:53.440
those decisions.

518
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.720
Yeah, and when you're sitting at that level and you're

519
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.799
reviewing national health content, what do you see being misunderstood

520
00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.640
or maybe oversimplified the most? When it comes to kids

521
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:03.920
health and skincare.

522
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:07.720
I think there's a lot of confusion about skincare ingredients

523
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.160
because there's a lot of fear mongering out there, and

524
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.920
you have people, whether it's on social media or the

525
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.559
general media, they're saying like, these ingredients are really bad.

526
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.920
They're going to cause cancer and they're going to cause

527
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.720
hormone disruption, and when you really look at the evidence,

528
00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.000
you find maybe that's not always the case, or maybe

529
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.880
they took a little aspect of a story and kind

530
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.440
of blew it out of purportion and it's not entirely accurate.

531
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.160
So I would say that that that's one of the

532
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:42.480
biggest things is just these very opinionated stances when it

533
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:46.319
comes to skincare products, which then when we consume that

534
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:51.400
is moms, it makes us very anxious and we start

535
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.519
thinking like, oh, my gosh, we're poisoning our kids with

536
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:58.759
these ingredients, which is not necessarily the case.

537
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:00.000
It's usually not the case.

538
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.400
Yeah, I know with all Like with the sunscreens, it's

539
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.839
like you're trying to figure out, Okay, oh my gosh,

540
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.480
is this Oh you can't use the sprice sunscreens. Oh,

541
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.000
you have to use this one. It's got to be

542
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.160
the reef safe sunscreens. Oh, it's got to be the

543
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.960
And it's like, I just I want to just protect

544
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.920
my kid from the sun. What am I going to

545
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.640
be killing them with these chemicals instead of the sun

546
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:20.160
giving them?

547
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:23.759
You know right, I'm glad you brought that up because

548
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:25.880
I think there's been a lot of coverage of that

549
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.200
recently on social media. The way, so when parents are

550
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.599
concerned about that and they're really confused, you can almost

551
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.119
never go wrong with a mineral based sunscreen. So you're

552
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:42.000
looking for ingredients like zinc oxide or titanium dioxide, and

553
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.440
those are REEF safe. They are kind of pure, very

554
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:50.079
natural ingredients. They're unlike the chemical sunscreen ingredients. To use

555
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.599
the word chemical, because yeah, chemical water is a chemical.

556
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.119
They are more synthetic in nature than the zinc oxide

557
00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:01.200
and titanium dioxide. So parents are listening, You can't go

558
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:04.640
wrong with those. But honestly, the best sunscreen is the

559
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.680
sunscreen that your kiddo likes using. And the key, the

560
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.480
name of the game when it comes to skin health

561
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:14.519
and sun protection is avoiding sunburns. So sun and being

562
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.960
outdoors in and of itself is not bad, but sunburns

563
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.279
are really, really damaging to our skin, and that is

564
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:25.880
what's directly linked to skin cancers and increased risk of

565
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.000
developing skin cancers and skin damage.

566
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.440
So when we can avoid that, we're way ahead.

567
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.759
Yeah, So I want to talk about early habits, but

568
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.160
also I want to talk about so I'm thinking as

569
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.559
you're saying sunburns like I've gotten. I lived at the

570
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.640
beach for fourteen summers. I still go back and forth

571
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.400
from you know, I'm outside all the time. I have

572
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.880
absolutely gotten sunburn like at the bathing suit line here, like,

573
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:53.920
what do we do now that we have already caused

574
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.920
the damage? I mean, I go to the dermatologists every year,

575
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.759
so hopefully that's a good uh in the good in

576
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:01.559
the right direction.

577
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.920
But yeah, you're not alone. I did it too.

578
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:09.119
I had more blistering sunburns that I can even count, Samantha.

579
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.880
So it's that makes me feel better that I want

580
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:12.160
to go.

581
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.880
This is like straight from the dermatologist's mouth.

582
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.559
And even after I became a dermatologist, there were still

583
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.559
some times where I missed a spot and got a

584
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.720
sunburn because my sun's screen. I was in a hurry

585
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.880
and didn't get it on. So yeah, I mean, the

586
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.519
damage is done. But the good news is is that

587
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.920
our skin has a really remarkable ability to repair itself,

588
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.240
and that is strongest when we are young. So when

589
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.079
we're kids and teenagers, our skin can really repair a

590
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.559
lot of that damage, not all of it, but a

591
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.960
lot of it. As we age and get older, our

592
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.720
skin is not quite as efficient in repairing, and so

593
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.799
in elderly people, we see that those repair mechanisms have

594
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.559
really slowed down and they're really not working well. You know,

595
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.359
long as happens naturally in our bodies with any sort

596
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.119
of aging process. So that's the good news. If you

597
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.119
were a kid that got a lot of sunburns, your

598
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.119
skin's repaired a lot of that. But it does speak

599
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.880
to the importance of following up with a dermatologist and

600
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.440
more importantly, being in tune with your skin. So doing

601
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.200
a check once a month or so, where you're looking

602
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.039
in front of the mirror with your arms out and

603
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:25.240
looking head to toe somebody you know, a partner or

604
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.680
a friend, check your back, in the back of your legs,

605
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.119
checking through your scalp, and just being aware if something

606
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.480
is new or different, or if you're looking for the

607
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.599
ugly duckling. So what stands out. If you have a

608
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.440
lot of moles, what's the ugly duckling mole? That's the

609
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.279
one you probably need to focus on and check with

610
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:44.759
your dermatology provider.

611
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.440
And then for parents with young children, I mean you

612
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.599
minor three and a half and five, what should besides sunscreen,

613
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.839
what should we be doing with our kids too? You

614
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.160
know that will help them in the future.

615
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.240
Yeah, so you want to be really cautious with your

616
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.960
cleansers for kids. So bar soaps are usually not the

617
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.559
best thing for their skin because their skin barrier is

618
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:12.559
not fully developed. It's still very much evolving and it's

619
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.839
not as strong as adult skin. So bar soaps are

620
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.000
very alkaline, so they can be very harsh and irritating,

621
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.079
especially to young skin. So going more with like the

622
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.039
cleansers that our pH balance to work with the skin,

623
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.559
so that's key, and then also making sure you moisturize

624
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:33.160
their skin consistently because that is going to help their

625
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.799
skin stay supple and resilient and really kind of handle

626
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.839
all the external factors that can be irritating and inflammatory.

627
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.559
And we know our young kids. You know, a lot

628
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.079
of them get eggs and a lot of them have

629
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.319
sense the skin dry skin. So when we can equip

630
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.480
them with that tools and the support to strengthen the skin,

631
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:53.359
it's a big.

632
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:53.839
Win for them.

633
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.279
All right, that's good advice.

634
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.839
So if a ten year old does nothing for their

635
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.440
skin versus build simple habits, now what does that look

636
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.000
like twenty years down the line.

637
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.720
Yeah, So the sooner they start those habits, the more

638
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:10.119
likely they are to stick with them lifelong. So that's

639
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.400
just basic psychology. We know that, and we really see

640
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.599
it in the oral health space. Because we're brushing and

641
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.839
flossing kid's teeth from the moment they have a tooth.

642
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.759
So I don't know why we have not had that

643
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.640
same focus with skin health, and as a dermatologist, I

644
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.599
see it very clearly and it's a big part of

645
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:34.279
the heart and motivation for Bright Girl. But really that again,

646
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.079
that damage and those habits are cumulatives. So when there's

647
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.599
a lot of damage occurring in a young person starting

648
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.920
at age ten and through their teens, it's going to

649
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:47.279
have a lifelong effect. So some kids who are maybe

650
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.519
really good about wearing their sunscreen moisturizing their skin all

651
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.279
the time, they're going to prevent a lot of the

652
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.799
sun damage that we see as adults, of the pigmentation,

653
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:58.000
the fine lines and wrinkles, the collagen breakdown that we

654
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.720
start to see in our thirties and forties and fifties

655
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.559
and beyond. So I know any of your moms out

656
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.279
there can really that and probably we would all go

657
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.039
back and do things a little bit differently. But it's

658
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.240
a really exciting time because our gen z and gen

659
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:18.000
Alphos have this opportunity to age very differently than our

660
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.759
generation did, and to think about that, it's just tremendous

661
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.160
We can really define quote unquote beauty. I don't love

662
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.720
to use that word. I like to say skin health.

663
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.359
But we can really redefine what that looks like and

664
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.960
what the aging process looks like for future generations. There's

665
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.960
also a lot of studies that demonstrate that the simple

666
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:41.480
act of cleansing and moisturizing your skin consistently does so

667
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.079
much to benefit conditions like acne and eggsama and sevary

668
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:50.400
dermatitis because you're balancing that skin microbiome and nourishing that

669
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.240
skin barrier. So just if you do those simple two

670
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.680
steps cleanse and moisturize every day you're washing your face,

671
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.880
you're putting on moisturizer, that does a tremendous amount to

672
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.039
help control acne, which affects eighty five percent of us

673
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:09.400
as teens. So for any of the moms of teens

674
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.480
out there, I think that's a really important message. And

675
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.200
as parents, it's our job to make those tools accessible.

676
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.960
So get the cleanser and moisturizer and put it in

677
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.880
their bathroom, put the cleanser in their shower, and they're

678
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:23.319
more likely to use it.

679
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.319
Yeah, and then so you know to kind of go

680
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.079
the opposite direction. There's ten year olds with the sepphor

681
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.799
routines right now, with the ret and all the acids,

682
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.039
all of it. Is that a good thing for their skin?

683
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.720
Or what's happening when they do that? Is that hurting

684
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:39.440
them at all?

685
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.880
I don't really know. I just see it all over TikTok.

686
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.559
It's really bad for their skin. And here's why.

687
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.920
So first of all, when they are doing complicated six

688
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.319
or seven six seven step routines.

689
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.200
Okay, that's a good one.

690
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.160
My daughters are gonna be after me with that one.

691
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.039
They're like, Mom, you can't say that. It's cringey. But

692
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.319
when they're doing the these complicated routines, you're just adding

693
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.039
more and more ingredients, you're layering things, You're increasing the

694
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.599
possibility for our sensitivity or allergy to any of those ingredients.

695
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.599
So that's one thing. Secondly, it comes back down to

696
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.760
that skin barrier that I talked about earlier. That skin

697
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.679
barrier is still so immature in our kids and our teens.

698
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:25.000
So when you're adding ingredients like retinols and alpha hydroxy

699
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.639
acids exfoliance, those are all kind of breaking down the

700
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.119
skin barrier as they're working to quote unquote repair the skin,

701
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.679
which for us is mature adults. Our skin needs that

702
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.800
and our skin has the barrier to be able to

703
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.480
handle that. But probably any of us that have used

704
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.480
a retinol or an alpha hydroxy acid have experienced irritation

705
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.639
from that. Well, it's tenfold worse for our young people

706
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:53.119
and they don't need those corrective ingredients. It actually does

707
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.239
much more harm than good for them, and it tips

708
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.880
the scales in the opposite direction where that ten year

709
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:04.239
old wants clear, glow, radiant skin. Instead they're getting sensitive, blotchy, red,

710
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:09.639
inflamed skin. So that's yeah, it's really important and I

711
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.280
think as parents for us to have honest conversations and explain.

712
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.440
So I've given you, guys now the why behind why

713
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.039
those ingredients are not good.

714
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.280
So you can tell your kids next time they come

715
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.280
to you and they've seen a product on social media

716
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.840
then influencer is recommending and it has retinal or vitamin

717
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.480
C in it, you can tell them this is why

718
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.840
the dermatologists that it. It's really not good for your skin.

719
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.840
So what is like one product or ingredient parents should

720
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.920
absolutely not be letting their kids use.

721
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:46.000
I would say those alpha hydroxy acids are the worst

722
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.480
because some products that have a vitamin C in them

723
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.079
have pretty mild dilution, so that's not always going to

724
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.239
cause harm. And then retinals are actually in retinoids are

725
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:58.559
used for acne treatment.

726
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.400
So many times betweens.

727
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.280
As they're starting to get those early acne illegians will

728
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.199
benefit from retinoids, so those are not bad. But the

729
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.599
alpha hydroxy acids are really kind of increasing that skin

730
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.559
cell turnover, they're exfoliating the skin, and they're just again

731
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:17.480
a little too harsh for that immature skin barrier.

732
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.840
If you could rewrite the entire conversation around kids and

733
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.039
skincare in one sentence, something every mom should hear.

734
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:25.960
What do you think it should be?

735
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.719
It would be skincare should be just like brushing and

736
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:34.119
flossing your teeth every day, a non negotiable daily habit

737
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.199
with huge long term benefits.

738
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.559
So true, and it is so interesting that it's not

739
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.599
aligned with like the brushing and flossing, and it's just like,

740
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.039
but yeah, you're gonna like introduce it maybe when you

741
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:49.599
go through puberty, and you should start washing your face

742
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.199
or you should start throwing on you know this, or

743
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.800
like it should be I guess I'm gonna have to

744
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:56.199
start my kids doing it.

745
00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:00.760
I mean, it's really it's a big flaw of our

746
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.760
medical system in the US today. We wait until disease

747
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.360
and issues occur, and then we diagnose and we treat it,

748
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.119
and there's not enough conversation and focus on prevention.

749
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.000
I think we're moving into it.

750
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:18.440
We all recognize that eating healthy and exercising and getting

751
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:22.239
enough sleep is good for us, but as physicians and providers,

752
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.079
we're not incentivized in the healthcare system to provide that

753
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:31.960
counseling and support. We're incentivized for doing procedures, prescribing medication,

754
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.199
seeing more patients, and I have a real problem with that.

755
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.320
It is again a big reason why I started Bright

756
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.559
Girl Skincare because through bright Girl I can reach and

757
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.960
help so many more, like millions, more individuals than I

758
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.840
can possibly see in my practice. I can equip them

759
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.119
with the knowledge and the tools to properly care for

760
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.000
their skin, and then we stay ahead of it. Because

761
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.400
our kids are born with perfect skin, it's up to

762
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.440
us to protect and support that for as long as

763
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.199
we possibly can, and in doing so, we can have

764
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.400
a huge impact on the skin cancer epidemic. Which is

765
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.320
the number one cancer worldwide and will affect one in

766
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.199
five of us by age seventy.

767
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:14.800
Wow, that's crazy.

768
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.679
So, speaking of Breakgirl, what makes it different from everything

769
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:20.920
else on the shelf right now, especially with so many

770
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:25.519
brands targeting you know, tweens and teens and young adolescents.

771
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:27.360
Well, I'd like to say that we were one of

772
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:28.400
the first to market.

773
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.079
We yeah, launched Spike Girl in twenty twenty two, which

774
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:34.880
is well ahead of all of these trends because I

775
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.719
saw it very clearly at that time, and that was

776
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.320
after three years of research and development. So what makes

777
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:45.159
Sprite Girls special. It's very evidence based. So I dug

778
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.519
deep into white papers and the clinical research and all

779
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.679
the information that I had access to as a dermatology

780
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:56.360
specialist in a micrographic dermatologic surgeon, and use that as

781
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.239
the base of these formulations. I then benchmarked the Bright

782
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.239
Girl products against the best of the best products that

783
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.400
I had tried as a dermatologist, So not drug store products,

784
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.960
the products that we were selling in dermatology practices that

785
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:15.440
had to pass like that test of being so exceptional,

786
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.360
and those were the moisturizers that were selling for eighty

787
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.920
dollars a jar, and the cleanser that was like seventy

788
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.840
five and the sunscreen is one hundred and fifty. That

789
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.519
was the benchmark for Bright Girl, and it's why the

790
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.760
formulations are so exceptional. And then I worked with the

791
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.000
cosmetic chemists and I was very specific about these are

792
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.559
the ingredients I want to include.

793
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.079
These are the ingredients I want to exclude.

794
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.599
This is how it needs to perform and feel and

795
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:43.039
spread and smell and you know, all of these characteristics

796
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:47.239
that have really brought something beautiful. So that's the magic

797
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:53.320
of the formulations. But then we packaged it in real cute, engaging, colorful.

798
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.039
I mean you can see it behind me here.

799
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:55.920
I love it.

800
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.599
That was very engaging. So all of our packaging is

801
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:04.119
custom packaging, and our young people demand that. I know

802
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.079
your kids aren't there yet, but like the tweens and tweens,

803
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.320
they know what's good. They can smell anything that's inauthentic

804
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.599
from a mile away, So we've got to deliver on that.

805
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.280
And you have to make the experience of using this

806
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.559
brand so exceptional that they're going to crave using it

807
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.840
right every single day. So really, like what makes us special,

808
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.000
Like we take the guesswork out for parents. So every

809
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.599
mom that's out there that is saying, what in the

810
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:36.719
world do I buy for my teen between my college student,

811
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.320
here's your answer. We've covered I've taken all the guests

812
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.119
work out of it. And there's a reason why hundreds

813
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.519
of dermatology practices carry it, Bright Girl, why you can

814
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.400
find it in Nordstrum and Macy's and you get on

815
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.960
Amazon and beauty Space in walmarts that have beauty Space kiosks.

816
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.320
So there is a reason society is really getting on

817
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.840
board with the preventative skincare movement, and we have been

818
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.599
at the forefront of it, really leading, and then we

819
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.360
have a lot of copycat brands behind us, which is great.

820
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.880
That's the biggest form of flattery imitation.

821
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:15.199
Yeah, and you've built a community of nearly fifty thousand parents.

822
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.519
What are they asking you over and over again?

823
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.440
So they are asking, how do I get my kids

824
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:26.199
really engaged and invested in skincare? And any parent of

825
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.760
a teen or tween out there nose that what we

826
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.719
tell them goes in one ear and out the other.

827
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.400
So you have to have a brand that's kind of

828
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.119
cool and objective to really deliver that message.

829
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.199
So that's what parents are asking. And also we have

830
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.840
a lot of parents that come to us because their

831
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.760
children have sensitive skin and they've tried a lot of

832
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.039
brands and been very unsuccessful. And then we're kind of

833
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.679
they're like, oh, we'll try this Bright Girl brand. It's

834
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.079
you know, recommended, it says it's okay for sensive skin.

835
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.960
We'll give it a go, and it's victory for them.

836
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:03.119
And we get these emails that say, like, nothing worked

837
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:05.320
and my child was breaking out and yours is the

838
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.719
only brand that's been successful for him or her, which

839
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.000
is just like it makes my heart thing with like

840
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.599
because that's like another person we've helped that was struggling.

841
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.159
And that's the whole mission with this brand.

842
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:19.960
I know, meet myself.

843
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.920
I had skin problems in high school athletic induced acne

844
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:30.679
or what is it called acrine mechanica, Yeah, and it

845
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:33.599
was like so horrible, and you know, my mom took

846
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.400
me to dermatologists for everything, and it was like just

847
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:37.639
I just remember.

848
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:41.039
You feel like it was like the most like front

849
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.000
and center when you went into school and you had

850
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.559
this acne and it was like the first thing people

851
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:47.400
noticed about you.

852
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.599
Did you feel that way.

853
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:49.960
Oh yeah, anytime.

854
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.039
I mean I still remember, Like I remember because I

855
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.320
was involved in like student council and like I was

856
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.280
at this like meeting with adults and like I was

857
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.760
like talking with my hands in front of my face

858
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:02.920
and it was because I was so embarrassed. And they're like,

859
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.679
we can't hear anything you're saying, we can't see you,

860
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:06.199
and I'm.

861
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.559
Like, but I don't want you to see me, because

862
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:10.800
which is just heartbreaking.

863
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.679
Right. We should never, like our young people should never

864
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.519
feel like they have to hide or be ashamed or

865
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.239
embarrassed about it. And it is really it can be

866
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.400
very psychologically devastating for young people. So when you have

867
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.400
a solution or a support that it's tremendous. And I

868
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.079
believe any of us so we all have our own

869
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.559
skincare journeys, but it's very personal to each of us

870
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:41.119
and it really shaped our childhood and teenage years, and.

871
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.960
So it's tremendous. So we want to get out there

872
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:44.039
and make that better.

873
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.119
So at what age should parents realistically start introducing skincare

874
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.039
routines and what should it look like at each stage,

875
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.239
Like obviously, if I'm introducing it to my five year old,

876
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.000
it's going to be different than my thirteen year old.

877
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.519
Yeah, so you should introduce it from the time that

878
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.639
your baby is born into the world. Because when they're

879
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:06.320
little babies, right, we wash and moisturize them, and once

880
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.760
they're infants and they're a little bit older, we put

881
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.360
sunscreen on them. So skincare should start from the day

882
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.880
that they're born. And like you said, Samantha, it's very

883
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.599
different for different ages.

884
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:18.639
So for our young kids, yes.

885
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.360
Simple gentle cleanser, a nice gentle moisturizer that's going to

886
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.079
be hydrating, not too greasy. We want to use those

887
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.440
mineral based sunscreens that we talked about earlier, and really

888
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.760
teaching them those habits, letting them be outside and enjoy

889
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.400
their lives and swimming and sports and all the things,

890
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.239
but doing that in a way that protects their skin.

891
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.039
We really find that it's around age eight that young

892
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:47.199
people start to develop some agency and opinion and they're

893
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.360
starting to make that pull away from parents doing everything,

894
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.920
and they want to decide what goes in their bathroom

895
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.519
and in their skincare. In our household, we have skincare

896
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.400
fridges for our girls.

897
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:02.039
That's the thing.

898
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.719
But what goes into their skincare closet or their skincare

899
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.639
fridge or what's in their bathrooms. They want to decide

900
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:12.159
and have some ownership in that, and they will come

901
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.400
to you and say, I saw this product on TikTok

902
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.000
or on Instagram and I want to use it. And

903
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.280
that's not always bad. Sometimes the product they're asking about

904
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.800
is a good product and it's fine for their skin.

905
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.679
But it's up up to us as parents to first

906
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:31.239
of all, listen and see them where they are, recognize

907
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.719
what they're saying, validate that, and encourage them like, oh,

908
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.199
I'm so glad you're interested in your skill, and then

909
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.800
check out that product and if it's good, you know

910
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.800
you support them and you buy it for them, and

911
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.519
if it's not, tell them why, Like, this may not

912
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:45.360
be the best thing.

913
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:46.599
For skin at your age.

914
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.199
That influencer that you saw that's using it, she's like

915
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:53.599
twenty four years old, So maybe we need to think about,

916
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:56.480
you know, where the creator is coming from versus where

917
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.599
you are, and can we give you an alternative that's safer,

918
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.920
but it's still going to achieve all those things that

919
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.480
you want to experience with caring for your skin.

920
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.480
And I might be like asking this question, you kind

921
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.519
of answered it. But social media is very much influencing

922
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:14.679
kids younger and younger, So how do we protect them

923
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.039
from chasing that perfect skin but also teaching them that, yeah,

924
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:20.800
this is a healthy habit and you need to do

925
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.480
this all the time. But what they're seeing, like you

926
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.679
just said, like, oh I saw this on TikTok, I

927
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.480
want it. I want to get it on TikTok for

928
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.000
you know, this person to look like them as opposed

929
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.360
to this is a healthy habit. You know, your daughter

930
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.159
found this on TikTok. She wants to look like this.

931
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.079
She thinks her skin will look a certain way. And

932
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.880
social media is influencing kids younger and younger, But how

933
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.519
do we protect them from chasing that perfect skin while

934
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.599
still teaching them that they.

935
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:45.719
Need to do it for healthy habit.

936
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.960
Yeah, so I think like having an honest conversation about

937
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.360
how that creator might have built special lighting, may have

938
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.920
done multiple takes to get that perfect shot. Also recognizing

939
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.199
that much of social media is for entertainment value, so

940
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.079
reminding our young people that what they're seeing may not.

941
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:04.519
Be the reality at all.

942
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.159
One example is those morning shed routines. If you've ever

943
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.280
seen that when a creator supposedly goes to bed and

944
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:16.480
they have on like a sheet mask and eye gels

945
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.599
and like a chin strap and a silk bonnet over

946
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.039
their hair, and they literally the video is of them

947
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.400
getting up in the morning and they stretch and they're

948
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.719
cute little pjs, and then they're peeling off the steps

949
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:33.119
of their like evening routine. So off comes the lip

950
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:35.599
mask and then the face mask comes off and the

951
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:40.559
silk bonn it and it's really like such a pageantry performance,

952
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:42.599
and it's like, did she really sleep with all that

953
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.159
stuff on her face? And then some of the face masks,

954
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.440
these sheep masks that kind of dry on your skin

955
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.599
and then peel off, have plastics.

956
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.280
And vinyl in them, Like I don't want that on

957
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:53.719
my skin.

958
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.519
Over Like, so you've got to have honest conversations with

959
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.800
the kids, our children, to educate them, Like some of

960
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.960
this is for entertainment value, but the other thing is

961
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.960
that really emphasizing getting back to that skin health message

962
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:11.119
and reminding them that like skin is not perfect and

963
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:14.119
we're gonna get blemishes and acne, but that's part of

964
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.880
our amazing bodies and our skin recovers and heals from

965
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.199
that and really talking about like the self care is

966
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:25.440
healthcare message so so true. Yeah, you're seeing all this

967
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.199
on social media, and that's great. I want you to

968
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.880
adopt these healthy habits. Like if you wash your face

969
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.840
and put on your moisturizer, that's going to do a

970
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.360
lot to help your acne. If you use your sunscreen

971
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.239
every morning, your skin is gonna be glowing and healthy

972
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.519
like you're seeing. So when you can reframe the conversation

973
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.880
so that they're using those messages from the creator, but

974
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.360
you're using that to teach them a healthy habit, I

975
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:50.239
think that's such a win.

976
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:51.559
Yeah, such a win.

977
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:56.239
I don't follow a lot of skincare like because it

978
00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:59.559
even as an adult, you know, like I'm almost forty,

979
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.039
and I'm like, I don't I'm never going to get this,

980
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:02.679
but I follow.

981
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.119
Do you ever follow Nina Pool? She does the like dupes.

982
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:08.280
So it's like she'll look at something where it's like

983
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:13.159
an eighty dollars like vial, and she'll look at the

984
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.239
ingredients and then she'll say, okay, you can get this

985
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.840
really similar at CBS. It has really similar ingredients and

986
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.400
she kind of compares them and she does like such

987
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.800
deep dives into like very expensive products, and I thought,

988
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.880
I've tried some of them and they're.

989
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:28.880
Like, it's pretty good.

990
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.119
It's like, for people who can't afford like really expensive

991
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.639
skin products, they can get something that does the same thing,

992
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:36.760
which is pretty cool.

993
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:41.199
I think that's great because it's helping to increase access

994
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.159
to effective skincare.

995
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.000
I watch almost.

996
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:46.760
No social media, so I'm not going to know who

997
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.760
any like, even the most fat creators like I am.

998
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.760
Just not It's just I don't have time in my day.

999
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:54.119
But I'm sure that my.

1000
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.519
Daughters know who she is because they're always talking about dupes.

1001
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.880
And I love that creators like her are getting out

1002
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.920
there though and educating and informing and doing the research

1003
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:08.400
and then presenting it in a way that's more digestible

1004
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.079
and that the consumer can understand.

1005
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:12.760
So I am all for that.

1006
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:17.039
I think that creators have such a special role in

1007
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:20.360
our world and a tremendous opportunity. And there's a reason

1008
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:25.159
why creators like yourself have built these amazing communities because

1009
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.039
you have built that trust and loyalty. But you've done

1010
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.679
it from a place of wanting to educate and help,

1011
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:37.599
and you're not trying to sell things, which is but yeah,

1012
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.519
you've shared your journey. You've done it in an honest way,

1013
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.559
and that's drawn so many individuals to you because you

1014
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.159
make it very relatable.

1015
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:47.719
Thank you. That's what I try to do.

1016
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.400
But I'm definitely not I'm always like I've tried the

1017
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.519
TikTok shop. I'm like, I can't sell anything, but I

1018
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:56.800
just do like genuinely sharing the stuff that I like,

1019
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:57.840
and I'm better at that.

1020
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.840
Yeah, TikTok shop and is a great It is fun though.

1021
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.840
So we're on TikTok shop and I will say like

1022
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:10.320
a shout out to all of my amazing TikTok creators

1023
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.119
because they are using their platforms to get the word out.

1024
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.440
So when I can go on to their platforms and

1025
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.239
talk and educate, it's such an.

1026
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.119
Incredible you know.

1027
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.440
Then you have these communities, It's exactly what you and

1028
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:28.239
I are doing right now. You've built this amazing podcast community.

1029
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.320
I don't have a podcast like I am your guest

1030
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.519
and you've invited me on to connect with your community

1031
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.840
and hopefully answer some questions and dispel some myths.

1032
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:38.880
Yes, and you do.

1033
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.039
I mean you are reaching large probably larger audience than

1034
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.840
I am. So even if you don't have a podcast,

1035
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.760
that's okay, you're doing a great job.

1036
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:49.639
Thank you.

1037
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.800
Well, it's just yeah, yeah, little by little, it's that

1038
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:56.719
ripple effect, right, and we make that difference and help

1039
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.840
more people that then go on to help others.

1040
00:51:59.320 --> 00:51:59.639
Yeah.

1041
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.480
Well, speaking of helping others, what's something you wish every

1042
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:05.119
mom listening could stop stressing about when it comes to

1043
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:05.960
their child skin.

1044
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.400
I think like being like feeling so overwhelmed. I think

1045
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.239
they're very stressed, and they are taking in all of

1046
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.559
the messages that they're seeing on social media, that they're

1047
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.639
hearing from their friends. And so my message to mom's

1048
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.960
is this whole conversation has become a lot more complicated

1049
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.800
than it needs to be, and it comes from these

1050
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.800
like very opinionated, polarizing like you almost have to say

1051
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.039
something extreme and then focus on it to make it

1052
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.920
heard in today's world. So dial it back, keep it

1053
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.920
really really simple. I always say skincare doesn't have to

1054
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.119
be complicated, but it does need to be consistent, and

1055
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.679
it's a lot easier to stay consistent with like a

1056
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.840
couple simple easy steps.

1057
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:51.760
So when you're.

1058
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.360
Trying to throw too many ingredients into the mix. It

1059
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:58.360
just becomes messy and overwhelming.

1060
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.440
Yeah, what's something your own kids do that makes you

1061
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.480
think I'm a dermatologist And this is still happening.

1062
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:06.360
My gosh.

1063
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:12.719
They get sunburns. They still like at least once a year,

1064
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:17.360
and casey daughter will get a sunburn because they're too

1065
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:21.559
stubborn to put on like enough sunscreen, or they'll miss

1066
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.920
a spot. Like our oldest daughter, we went to the

1067
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.559
beach last summer and she missed the spot on her

1068
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.480
shoulder and it was like, oh my gosh, it got.

1069
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:30.400
Like purple red.

1070
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.239
It was so like sunburned, and then it blistered and

1071
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.000
then it peeled, and I am just like, oh my gosh,

1072
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.760
do not tell anybody that you were my daughter, were like,

1073
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:43.679
they will think I'm the worst dermatologist's parent. But it's

1074
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.039
a whole lot harder when they're teenagers, right, It's not

1075
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:50.760
like we're applying sunscreen to them like yours are little

1076
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:52.760
and you can still get away with that. So that

1077
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:56.800
is like my biggest fail. And now it's out there

1078
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.440
for the whole world to hear it's okay, it's gonna

1079
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.119
sunburn because the dermatologist kids still get sunburned.

1080
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.360
Well again, it's more relatable, like you're not perfect, which

1081
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.880
makes it me feel better if my kid gets burnt. Okay,

1082
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.079
even the dermatologists kid gets burned. This is not the

1083
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.719
end of the world. You know, they're not going to

1084
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:17.800
be ruined for life.

1085
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.000
So do you want to hear another one of my

1086
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.079
biggest fails as the dermatologist.

1087
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:24.559
Of course, when I was a.

1088
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.719
Resident in dermatology in Pittsburgh, I went to the tanning

1089
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:32.159
bed before my wedding because I thought I needed to

1090
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.960
be tanned for my wedding. That was the thing back then,

1091
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:39.559
early two thousands. Knowing everything I knew, like not as

1092
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:41.960
much as I know now, but knowing like this is

1093
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.159
not good, but I'm going to let vanity went out.

1094
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.000
So I went to the tanning bed and you know what,

1095
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.239
I got a sunburn on my butt.

1096
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:54.360
Oh my gosh, I totally forgot.

1097
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.039
First of all, I could smell the smell came back

1098
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.400
when you talked about the salons, but I totally forgot

1099
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.800
when you would go in and then your butt would

1100
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:05.760
get sunburned from the tandies.

1101
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.320
It was just crushed together the glass.

1102
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:10.880
My gosh, it was like the worst.

1103
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.239
And I remember like thinking, how could I have done this?

1104
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.800
Like I know better? And I let the girl at.

1105
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.280
The tanning salon tell me how much time I needed time,

1106
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.199
and in my mind I was like, that's like twice

1107
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.199
as much as I need. But she does this all

1108
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.920
the time, so I'm gonna go with her recommendation.

1109
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:32.880
No, that's not right down, Okay, awesome, all right. So

1110
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.119
you've given us so much wonderful information. I know I

1111
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.679
learned a lot, and I know the listeners have as well.

1112
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.519
But let's end with one last question. If every parent

1113
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.639
listening could walk away and do just one thing differently

1114
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.840
for their child's skin health, starting today, what would you

1115
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:50.679
want that to be and why does it matter more

1116
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:51.199
than we think?

1117
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:55.800
Buy them a mineral based sunscreen and place it somewhere

1118
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.840
in their world, whether that's in their backpack or next

1119
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.800
to their toothbrush or in the mudroom before they go

1120
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:07.079
out into the garage wherever in your household, that they're

1121
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.920
going to see it every day and be reminded, and

1122
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.320
tell them about the importance of that one simple step

1123
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.960
that takes less than a minute, that pays off in huge,

1124
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:18.000
huge dividends.

1125
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:22.159
True sunscreen where at everybody that's the going.

1126
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:26.280
To agree wants me to say like some new, exciting,

1127
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:31.639
innovative product when I'm asked, like the number one skincare product.

1128
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:34.760
But it comes back to that old saying prevention is

1129
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.639
the best medicine. Announce of prevention is worth a pound

1130
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:41.079
of cure, And any dermatologist is going to tell you

1131
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:44.000
that in the world of all the peptides and exosomes

1132
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:48.920
and growth factors and antioxidants, sunscreen is still far in

1133
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.360
a way, the most important thing you can put on

1134
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:51.840
your skin.

1135
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.840
Well, that's awesome and that's a great place to end.

1136
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.440
So that's going to bring us to the end of

1137
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:58.000
another episode of The Running Mind.

1138
00:56:58.039 --> 00:56:58.239
Mom.

1139
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.920
I love this conversation because it's one of those reminders

1140
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:06.440
that simple like sunscreen really can be better, but only

1141
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:09.719
when we actually understand why. And I think what stood

1142
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:11.920
out most to me is the idea that the habits

1143
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:15.000
we're helping our kids build right now, they are not small.

1144
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.639
They're shaping their health for decades. So thank you, doctor

1145
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:19.559
Casey for all of that wonderful information.

1146
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:21.840
You're so welcome. Samantha, thank you.

1147
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:25.400
And as always, thank you to the listeners for spending

1148
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:27.679
time with us today on The Running Wine Mom, don't

1149
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:30.360
forget to subscribe, leave a review, and shared this episode

1150
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.440
with someone who needs to hear it. You can follow

1151
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.840
me on Instagram at the Running Wine Mom, Underscore and

1152
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.480
Doctor Casey. Where can the listeners find you? And that

1153
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:38.199
Bright Girl.

1154
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:41.760
They can find Bright Girl at just brightgirl dot com

1155
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:43.320
and it's spelled just like it sounds.

1156
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.800
B r I g h t g I r al

1157
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:47.119
dot com all one.

1158
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.199
Word, and then on social media we are at bright

1159
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:52.039
Girl Beauty all one word.

1160
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.079
I love that and I will link all of that.

1161
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:58.960
So thank you again. This was wonderful and thank you

1162
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:01.119
so much for joining us today. I remember you were strong,

1163
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.320
you were capable, you were all amazing. Until next time,

1164
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:06.679
keep running, keep sipping, keep putting on that sunscreen, and

1165
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.679
keep embracing the joy of motherhood tears, and I will

1166
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:50.119
be back next Tuesday.

1167
00:59:02.079 --> 01:02:32.320
It space is called so Speed