Aug. 4, 2026

Mama Nurse Tina on Birth Trauma, Breastfeeding & the Truth About Postpartum

Mama Nurse Tina on Birth Trauma, Breastfeeding & the Truth About Postpartum
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What if preparing for birth isn’t just about creating the perfect birth plan—but knowing how to advocate for yourself when the plan changes?In this episode of The Running Wine Mom, Samantha sits down with Mama Nurse Tina, labor and delivery nurse, mom of four, certified breastfeeding specialist, and the hilarious, unfiltered voice behind a community of more than 1.5 million people.After beginning her nursing career in emergency medicine, Tina found her calling in labor and delivery. Now, she uses her experience inside the delivery room to help parents feel informed, empowered, and a little less terrified about birth and postpartum life.Tina explains why birth trauma isn’t always connected to a major medical emergency. Sometimes, it comes from feeling left out of decisions, unheard, or like birth happened to you instead of with you.Samantha and Tina also dig into the misinformation expecting parents encounter online—from vitamin K to gestational diabetes testing—and why your social media feed shouldn’t replace conversations with a trusted healthcare provider.Then there’s postpartum.Tina believes parents should prepare for postpartum just as much—if not more—than they prepare for birth. They talk honestly about breastfeeding struggles, accepting help, mesh underwear, peri bottles, sore nipples, hospital bags, sleepless nights, and why motherhood rarely looks like the curated version we see online.And because this is The Running Wine Mom, there are plenty of laughs along the way.In This Episode:

  • Why Tina left emergency nursing for labor and delivery
  • How humor can help during stressful medical experiences
  • Why rigid birth plans can sometimes contribute to disappointment or trauma
  • The connection between communication and birth trauma
  • How to advocate for yourself during labor and delivery
  • Why your birth support person matters
  • Pregnancy misinformation on social media
  • Vitamin K and gestational diabetes testing misinformation
  • The realities of an overwhelmed maternity healthcare system
  • Why postpartum deserves as much preparation as childbirth
  • How to actually help a new mom
  • Why breastfeeding being “natural” doesn’t mean it’s easy
  • The breastfeeding expectations that leave new moms feeling defeated
  • Why we need to talk about the messy physical realities of postpartum recovery
  • Tina’s must-have hospital bag item
  • What your perineum deserves after childbirth
  • The one book Tina recommends to expecting parents
  • And yes… what really happens to your body during labor
One of the Biggest TakeawaysYou don’t need to control every detail of your birth to feel empowered by it.Information matters. Communication matters. Having people around you who understand your wishes matters.And when postpartum arrives? Let people help you.If someone asks what coffee you want, give them the order. If they offer to hold the baby while you sleep, hand over the baby. You were never supposed to do all of this alone.Connect With Mama Nurse TinaFind Tina and her pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, and postpartum resources at Bump to Latch.Follow her on social media: @mama_nurse_tinaConnect With The Running Wine MomFollow The Running Wine Mom on Instagram: @therunningwinemom_Subscribe to The Running Wine Mom wherever you listen to podcasts and share this episode with an expecting parent, new mom, or anyone who needs a reminder that the messy parts of motherhood deserve to be talked about, too.Medical note: This episode is for education and conversation and is not a substitute for individualized medical advice. Talk with your healthcare provider about questions related to your pregnancy, birth, postpartum recovery, breastfeeding, or your baby’s care.
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I always say something will come out of your body

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and I won't be able to tell you which hole

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it came out of.

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Welcome back to the Running wind Mom podcast. I'm your host,

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Samantha s Lindsay to the Running Wine Mom, they say

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that in life, there are people who see the mess

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and walk away, and then there are those who see

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the mess, grab a pery bottle and find a way

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to make you laugh through the chaos. My guest today

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is the latter. She's spent seventeen years in the front

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lines of the er before finding her true calling in

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the beautiful, unpredictable world of labor and delivery. Today, she

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is the mother of four, a certified breastfeeding specialist, and

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the hilarious, unfiltered voice behind Mam and Nurse Tina. With

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a community of over one point five million people, she

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is stripping away the pincher's perfect facade of motherhood to

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give us raw, blunt and much needed truth about birth

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bodies and the healthcare system. So here to help us

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decrease birth trauma and increase our own power, Please we'll

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come to the show. The woman who makes us feel

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in our messiest moment, Tina Potanko Oh.

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That was quite the intro. I feel like it was

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just my head and it's just getting larger and larger.

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Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. You know, we met

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at the Prago Exo and I just you're hilarious and

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I can't believe, like the world of nursing and humor

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is just something that everybody needs. I feel, hm, I

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do too, like some people, I think, I mean, you

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can tell right away if they're like such a straight shooter,

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but I think for the most part it's appreciated. Like nursing,

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we see people usually in some of their most stressful

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times in most departments emergency for labor and delivery for sure.

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So I think that little like sprinkling of comedy or

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humor can really make it a little bit, a little

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bit more palatable for them in those moments.

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Yeah, so let's get into it. So you spent seventeen

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years in the er before transitioning into labor and delivery,

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and in the er people are usually trying to stay

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in their bodies. Labor and delivery, they're trying to get

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someone out. What was that like aha moment where you

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realize your heart belonged in the delivery room. Yeah.

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Yeah, So I've been nursing seventeen total. The first chunk

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of it was and then since twenty twelve, I went

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to labor and delivery. And when I was in school,

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it was always like I wanted to be either labor

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and delivery or emergency and you get to the end

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and you sort of have to pick which way you

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want to go, And so I ended up going the

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emergency room wrote which I'm actually really glad is that's

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the one I went to first. It was incredible, like

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it gave me a ton of experience, It gave me

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sort of more ability to speak to people in those

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really stressful, vulnerable moments, really good head to toe, great

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stuff going on, and emerged. It just became like I

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really wanted to give people the time and the care

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that they deserved. And the way that our emergency rooms

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in Canada work, it's like you just don't have the

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luxury of that with each person, Like you just can't

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spend that much time with them because there is a

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lineup of people that need your help. So what would

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happen is people would come in to have a baby,

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and most people in an emergency and you are saying

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they run away. They're like, don't we don't do the

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pregnancy stuff down here, No, thank you. But I would

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always run to it. I was able to, like go,

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I would hear it over the and I would run

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to it because I just thought it was so incredible,

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Like it was it was so cool, right, and I said,

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you know what, it's maybe it's time maybe, Because then

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they would leave the department. I'd be like, oh, look,

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I want to I want to go to come back.

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I went to labor and delivery in twenty twelve, and

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it's just been the most incredible thing. Like it's I'm like,

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this is it? Like this is it for me? I'll

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die here.

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I know. It's always funny watching the videos of people

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going into trauma, the nurse videos of what you end

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up doing where it's like going in trauma, they're like,

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you know, that's going to labor and delivery now, and

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how you kind of have to choose your you know,

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your area because especially cool.

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I think those two have a lot of similarities in

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that gets usually quite fast paced. You never know what

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you're going to be doing, even in labor and delivery,

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like you're you're helping people have babies. But there's different

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areas of labor and delivery within it's like a little

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ecosystem of its own, similar to emergency, like you see

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all sorts of things. There's you're not just helping people

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have babies. You're seeing them in triage, if they're having

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concerns in their pregnancy, they're doing unwell, you're in the

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operating room, you're scrubbing it on C section. So it's

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a really cool, diverse area to work and that's I

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think why a lot of people find it and they

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stay with it.

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Awesome. And so you're a nurse to thousands and a

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mom to four. If your kids had to give you

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a performance review of your parenting, maybe let's just say

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this week, what would the top pro and con bey the.

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Pro would probably be. So we have the same We

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have this thing where it's called the trifecta. So if

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we're out driving around and in a ten second span

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of time we see a Tesla, a Mini Cooper, and

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a BW Bug or a punch buggy, then we get

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ice cream. So we'll see one and then we'll see

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a second one. It's always the third one that causes

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us problems. It's usually the punch buggy, so we'll start

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like really slowly counting down to ten. Anyway, twice in

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the last week we've actually hit the trifecta and it's

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been really sunny and lovely out so we've been able

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to kind of walk and go get ice cream twice.

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So that's that's I mean, that was my I don't

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know what their highlight was. And then usually throughout the day,

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you know what. Actually, yesterday I had to take my

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little guy for a fill, so that's probably his like

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f on my report Carding's like, how dare you take

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me to get a filling in my mouth? But I

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usually I am pretty crusty towards the end of the day,

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like I'm tapped out, I'm really tired, So we try

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to make that as fun as possible. But sometimes I

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think probably bedtime is probably an F grade after we

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do the fun stuff and I'm like, it's okay, that

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was it. That was my last my last squeeze of

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like I'm a great mom. Now I'm a tired mom,

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and I'm yeah, or nine.

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Nights, I get it. Bedtime is my least favorite, and

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I always that is like the one time I do

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feel like guilt around parenting because I'm like, I just

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hate putting you guys to bed.

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It's just not I do everything else, but bed time

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is not. You're just like you're just tapped out. There's

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like literally minus five in the take. I'm like, come on,

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and it's like, oh, this is so nice. But then

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for me it's like, Okay, that was nice. Now you

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need to go to bed. So anything after that is like.

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Oh lord, I know thinking I'm going to take the

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car thing into consideration. I'm definitely gonna do that with

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my kids. That'll be really fun. It's fun.

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Yeah, we from another family and I was like, I

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love that, right, and it's it is pretty like it

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is rare to see all three of them for some reason.

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But yeah, twice, we hit it twice in the last week.

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So I love the Smores blizzard from dry Heart like

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in a grip hold.

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So I love that. So so good. Now, so you

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have built a following of over a million people for

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being hilarious. What is one thing that about I know

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about childbirth that is so ridiculous we might have to

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laugh about it or else you will never do it again.

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Yes, I think really the whole like as a whole.

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It's it's pretty wild, like if you think about it

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as a whole, like you you are growing this person,

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and it's sort of like it's so calm and it

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takes so long until it doesn't and then it's like,

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oh my god, I'm going to give birth in like

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a week. What the hell? How did that happen? Because

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in the beginning it takes so long. But I think

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I think you have to laugh about the whole of

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it because it's so unpredictable that people, I think will

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get in their own heads about it and I'll be like,

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this is how it has to go, and then it

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doesn't maybe go that way, and then it's like just

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a whole, well a little bit of a circus, a

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little bit of a circus, and there's body fluids and sounds,

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and I think the sounds are what people need to Like,

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I always say, something will come out of your body

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and I won't be able to tell you which hole

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it came out of. Could be either either one.

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I don't know. I love that, but it's good.

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But it's like it's very it's like it's unmistakable. You're

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just like and everyone just kind of looks at each other.

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So usually I'll just be like, oh, excuse me, excuse me.

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I love that you need someone like you in there,

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saying that I will be able to.

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Tell you which one. I don't know which hole came

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out of one of them, yeah, one of the two.

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But it's good things moving down, moving out. We like

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it down and out come on.

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Yeah, Oh my gosh, I love that. So we are

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the running wine mom. If Mom and Nurse Tina with

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a type of wine, would you be a bubbly prosecco,

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a bold cab or a chilled rose that has been

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sitting on the counter for three hours because you got

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distracted or something else.

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That's probably it's probably the third. I was gonna say that.

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Don't don't hate me, but I don't actually like wine.

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I know, I know, I know. I haven't tried the

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right wine. I love though. Vanilla vodka. That is the

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drink that I would be. It's like it's like, uh,

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like calm on the surface, sassy underneath, and then it

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would be like she'll really screw you over in the

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end if you if you have too much abrig you'll

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be like that was too much, that was too much

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of that booze. That's kind of how I am. Like,

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that was too she was too much.

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That is I love it though with a dike I

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was gonna say that is what I am tasting with

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a diet coke, like it is the scariest combat.

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And then you just, yeah, just drink it because at

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first you're like I love this, and you're like, oh

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my god, I may have had too much of this.

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you talk about a lot, is decreasing birth trauma. When

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you see a woman walk into the hospital, what do

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you think one thing you wish you could say in

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her ear to make her feel more powerful and maybe

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less like a patient.

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Yeah, I think sometimes with how tight people can make

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their birth plans, it sort of takes the spontaneity out

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of the event. And I know that we love I'm

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a planner. I love planning. We love to plan. It's great.

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But sometimes really really tight birth plans can lead to

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birth trauma on their own, not because it didn't go

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your way, but if you have such tight parameters on

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your expectations and something maybe goes slightly different, maybe it's

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even a better outcome than it could have been because

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it didn't go like you tightly planned it. That can

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lead to birth trauma. So I always say, like, you know,

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it doesn't take a huge catastrophic event for someone to

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walk away with birth trauma. In most cases, it's like

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they didn't feel like they were part of the story,

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part of the communication, and that led to birth trauma

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even though everything went amazing, but it just something happened

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in the way that felt like they weren't a part

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of it. So I always love so. Jen Hamilton is

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one of my favorite labor and delivery creators. She's a

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lovely human being, and she said something that changed my career,

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she'll look at a patient who is maybe nervous or scared,

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and she just says to them, it's okay that you're scared,

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because I'm not. And it's like she said that him,

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he's like God, Like, so you know, right, well, you

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can use that for patients in any department, but you

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can use it as a teacher, as a police officer,

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as a paramedic, as a parent. Like it's so I

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think it's so reassuring for someone to just be told

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like point blank outright like I got you, Like, it's

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okay that you don't got you because I and then

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they like they can just like take a breath and

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be like, oh well, okay, let's all right, let's do this.

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Then she said that I call it a Hamilton hack.

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I just put it right in my bucket and I

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have used it in so many places in life. And

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my husband is an emergency room position. I remember one

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day he came home. He's like, hey, I used your

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Hamilton hack today. I told this young your gun And

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I said, and how did they react? And he said yeah,

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it was like almost like he looked at me and

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was just took a big breath and you could see

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it like exiting his body and he was like, okay, man,

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all right good. So that's something I love to say.

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is sometimes all you need is someone just like I'm

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I got you, like and you're like, okay, you're right.

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Let you are an expert. You got it.

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I'll focus on everything else, you know.

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in first time moms today that you think is actually

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like a social media lie group or just see.

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Sorry I got you.

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I'm like the baby.

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It does happen. It definitely do just me. It just

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means a baby is moving down. I think that their

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social media is tricky, I think in all aspects of life,

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but in healthcare especially just because you can get into

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a bit of a rabbit hole. So if you search

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up like it's One example is the vitamin K shot

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after babies are born. There's like this this huge dialogue

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going on online that this is a terrible thing for

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your babies. But I think if you were to search

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up like vitamin K black Box Morning or vitamin K

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bad for babies, you would get like one video and

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then you would just get video after video after video

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of people supporting that narrative. It's like almost that that

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that's right. So I think it's great for information, but

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I also think it can be really really hard. So

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the biggest things that I see that are that are

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a floating around online is the vitamin K injection for

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babies and it's terrible for our babies, which is not

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true at all. The glucose tolerance test to test for

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gestational diabetes. Again, there's been groups of people online who

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have latched onto this and are telling people it's just

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terrible for you, and that can lead to like mis

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cases of gestational diabetes, which is really serious. So those

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are two big, big ones that I see that that

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are fears that are unlike, that are not based in truth,

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that are not based in evidence. So I always say

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to people, if you have concerns, please take the information

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that you see and you hear, and take it to

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your trusted provider and then use that as a place

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to start a conversation with them, because if you've chosen

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them and you have rallied with them, like, they will

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have your best interest at heart, and they will know

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what is appropriate for you and your specific pregnancy. And

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then hopefully they're open and receptive and they can discuss

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as to why that is, yeah, that's supported with some evidence,

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or that's supported with anecdotal evidence, or or that's totally

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belogny like, so they'll be able to sort of sift

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through it with you. But I think it's important that

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people realize that they shouldn't be sifting through it necessarily alone.

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When it comes to big medical decisions. A lot of

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people don't realize that there are people online that have

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no medical credentialing, which is fine, like you're I mean,

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you're allowed to sing your praises from the rooftop. But

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I mean, if something happens because you've taken that advice,

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like there's absolutely no nothing on them, Like, nothing will

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fall back on them. There's no liability, there's no responsibility,

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there's no license to remove because they gave you information

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that was falsified. So I always caution people to sort

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of look at who they're talking to. I tend to

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be very very cautious about things I talk about online

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because if somebody did take that advice and then they

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decided that I was at fault for their negative outcome,

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like that could be a massive problem for me in

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my life.

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So yeah, just yeah, be cautious, Be cautious.

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So how does that like work as you as a

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you know, certified professional, if like one of your videos,

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like someone could kind of come to you and say, oh,

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I learned this from you know.

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From Yeah, that's solid question. That's the crazy A little

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bit of a yeah, we well west out here. I mean,

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people can lodge complaints. There's people out there saying all

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sorts of all sorts of wild things. But again there's

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no they're not They're not regulated or monitored by any

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sort of a governing body. So it's like they could

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just say what they want when they want to, and

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it's like okay, But then because somebody people say things

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with their whole chest and then people are like, yes,

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they are so right because they sound right. But I'm like,

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you gotta do just a loud boy. Oh yeah. So

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most people that I know that are that have medical

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degrees or they are licensed, or they are a licensed professional,

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even though nurses aren't professionals anymore. Let's just so you know.

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worry chiropractice chiropractors are don't worry. We're gonna be ever

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in alignment that chiropractors are professionals. So yeah, I think

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you have to be cautious because if you just spew

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information that can cause harm to you or your baby,

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like there's no there's nothing to fall by. So yeah,

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I would say bring it to your trusted professional, who

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is going to be a licensed professional that is regulated,

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that is run code of ethics.

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we know healthcare system is strained from the inside. What's

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one thing about modern maternity care that kind of keeps

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you up at night and you wish maybe it could change. Yeah.

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I really struggle with like systems that are bulging at

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the seams. So when we have these departments that are

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just there's just so many people giving birth and the

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communities around those the facilities have expanded, but the resources

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have not expanded to match the population, because then we

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run into issues with I think situations where maybe people

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are being induced that maybe didn't need to be induced,

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or maybe we're rushing the process when if we just

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gave the body a little bit of time, things might

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progress differently. So yeah, I struggle with being told, you know,

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like you gotta, yeah, what's what's happening with her? Like

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what are we at? What are we doing? Like how

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is she progressing? And I'm like, I don't know, Like

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she's she's comfortable, she's contracting, she's moving, like she's doing

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all the right things right, It's like, yeah, but we

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three people over there that need to come over to

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have babies, So that like stresses me out a little bit.

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I don't It's not my favorite thing in the world.

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So I do my best to sort of push back

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where I can within reason. It's tricky because it sort

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of ends up being a bit of a cookie cutter

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situation sometimes where it's like everybody's going to do this,

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and then everybody's going to do this because that's just

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what we do, that's how we roll, and I think

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there are a lot of situations where people would benefit

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from coming outside of that cookie cutter and really experiencing

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things the way that their body wants to experience. So

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that's where I sort of feel like it's important for

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people to prepare. Of course it's important. Information is power,

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but it's also important for you to build a really

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strong village that you're going to have with you when

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you give birth. Because a lot of times I said,

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I always say I have a really strong personality, but

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like when my blood pressure's seventy and forty and it's

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in the toilet, I'm not very loud or strong. So

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having with you who know your goals, who know what

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you would love to have happen, who know what's really

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important to you. Having strong people who are not afraid

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to utilize their voice to sort of allow you to

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have a more positive experience is really important because there

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might come times where people sort of blow in and

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they're trying to push things along and that's really going

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against like what is going to give you the biggest

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amount of peace with your birth experience. And I think

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that they need to be there to speak up in

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those situations because then, I mean, then what are they

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gonna do. They're gonna fights you on it. You're always

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say no, I don't, I don't want that. We are

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not about to hold it down and do something against

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their will. So I think it's important to have a

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really supportive environment with you. And it doesn't have to

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the baby daddy or the or your labor birth partner.

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It can be absolutely anybody. I mean, it could be

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like the checkout guy from Kroger if you're super close

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to him and he brings you peace and comfort, you know,

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like come on in and just But it doesn't have

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to be like it could be. It could be absolutely

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anybody as long as they are there as a united

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front with you to sort of help you to a

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your goals in your childbirth awesome.

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And what's one trade secret, like a small practical tip

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for new parents that you wish every hospital would hand out.

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Ooh you know what. I wish that providers would tell

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you to prepare for postpartum as hard, if not harder,

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than you prepare for birth. You have a baby and

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then with these like wonderful ideas, and I love it

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because it tells me that you've looked into things and

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you're really thinking about what you want. And then I

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had you a baby, and I'm like, here you go.

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And then a lot of times they'll look at me

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and be like, well, what do I do now, And

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I'm like, well, really, whatever you want, because I'm not

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coming home with you, so I think it's important and

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I and a lot of this can take you off

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guard or I think that you might have, you know,

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different thoughts of what it's going to be like than

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what it actually is like, because it's really to like

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sort of knock you on your bum Yeah. Fortunately, in

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North America at least, we sort of have this expectation women,

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you have a baby and then you just carry on

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with your life the way you were baby and a

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huge hormonal shift and a stress response, which is unfortunate

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because there's so many beautiful cultures in the world and

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places where everyone sort of rallies around somebody who's just

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had a baby with females like in their village and

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in their communities, and they are just like, I want

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you to rest, I want you to feel better, I

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want you to feel supported. I want you to have

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all of this knowledge that all of your aunties and

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your grandmas and your great grandmas have to pass down.

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And I think that that is a lot of times

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missing in North America, not to mention the garbage maternity

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leave that you get in the United States. It's like,

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I'm in Canada. We had a year. It's not full paid,

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but like your position's held and there's some money coming in.

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But when people tell me I took my baby to

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daycare at six weeks, I'm just like, like, how is

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this supportive of somebody on a mother head journey? You know?

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How is this supportive of somebody that's trying to breasteed

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their baby. It's really not, No, So I think preparing

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for postpartum is really important, and having things lined up

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to make your life eat once you go home is

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also super important. So I would like to stress that

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to new parents, like, think about what's going to happen

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because the birth. I mean, it's an important drop in

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the bucket, but it is a drop in the bucket

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compared to like what you're about to go through and

457
00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.400
and the stages and the cycles and the sleepless nights

458
00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.920
and the feeding issues. Like it's a whole thing. It's

459
00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.200
it really is. It's like a life all like there.

460
00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.599
I don't think there is anything as life altering as

461
00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.559
having a baby and bringing them. So yeah, prep, prep,

462
00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:18.160
prep for postpartum. It's important.

463
00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.400
I always say I was not even close to being prepared. Literally,

464
00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.319
I thought I was gonna leave and have sushi and

465
00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.759
wine and like my baby. I was gonna sleep train

466
00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:27.200
my baby like right away. And then I was like,

467
00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:31.119
what is this. This is not I can't believe.

468
00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:36.039
I'm that had more right on the boom, and they're

469
00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.920
gonna latch and my milk's gonna be just glowing everywhere,

470
00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.240
like they're gonna be like, yes, I'm good, and I'm

471
00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.359
gonna know what my baby wants and yeah, no that's

472
00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:44.519
not it's not a things.

473
00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:44.920
Yeah.

474
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.640
Prep and if you can, like rally the troops, I

475
00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:49.960
would say, like, rally the troops because you're gonna need them.

476
00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:52.680
And and and here's the other thing, if someone wants

477
00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:54.839
to help you, get out of their way and let them,

478
00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:58.640
like I think them yeah, because so many year after

479
00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.519
year after year were sort of like expecting women to

480
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.920
just do it because that's the expectation. Then we almost

481
00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:06.640
get in our own head like, oh, I'm gonna what

482
00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.519
would you like me to bring you from the coffee

483
00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:10.279
shop before I come? Oh no, no, I'm good, I'm good.

484
00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:13.680
Like no, no, like I'll have a coffee with two

485
00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.720
creams too sugars, thank you, a muffin, please eat it up,

486
00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:18.400
and then come over and take my baby so I

487
00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.119
can have an app you know, Like, yeah, we need

488
00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.160
to get more comfortable with being like yeah, no, I

489
00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:24.440
do need the help and it is good for me

490
00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.000
to take the help. So get out of their way

491
00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:27.680
and let them help you because they want to help.

492
00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:30.960
You, yes, and yeah you're like and as a helper,

493
00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.119
maybe just like don't ask and do it. I always

494
00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.359
think that, like I just will bring it. I'm like,

495
00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:37.319
I'm not going to ask. I'm just gonna bring you

496
00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:37.759
the coffee.

497
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.759
That's you know, I do yeah, or I'll be like

498
00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:42.680
if I know, I'll be like, hey, what's your Like,

499
00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:44.039
what's your coffee or I don't say I do you

500
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.960
want a coffee? I just say what's your Yeah? And

501
00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:48.400
then I'll be like, they have chocolate croissants and they

502
00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:49.759
have coffee cake. Which would you rather?

503
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.759
I love that, Yeah, give me a choice.

504
00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:55.799
Yeah, treat them my toddlers, be like yes, this or

505
00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:59.680
that the blue pants and the pink pants like yeah,

506
00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.319
and be like what pants are blue or pink? Make

507
00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:02.759
a choice?

508
00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.359
So true. I also love that I'm taking that motto

509
00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.359
with me too. I feel like a lot of adults

510
00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:13.640
need that treatment, not just pos part I don't know

511
00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:14.400
what do you want to eat?

512
00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:17.359
That it's like nine pm, and like I don't want

513
00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:17.880
to eat anymore.

514
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.160
My gosh. So you're also a certified breastfeeding specialist speaking

515
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.759
of you know, Gil, what is the biggest guilt trip

516
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.160
that we need to stop giving ourselves regarding how we

517
00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:29.279
feed our babies? O? My god.

518
00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.000
The breastfeeding is natural, Like I get it, Like our

519
00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:34.519
bodies are designed to make milk and feed babies, and

520
00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:37.119
babies are designed to latch on and suckle and know

521
00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.440
how to work everything. But I think breastfeeding is one

522
00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:42.640
of the hardest things that people do, but they expect

523
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.279
it to be super easy, So then they have this

524
00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.440
sortal mishmash between like the expectation and the reality, and

525
00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.119
it really throws them for a loop. On top of

526
00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.319
all these other life changes that are happening right now,

527
00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.359
you have a screaming baby, you have sore nipples, you're struggling,

528
00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:56.279
You're not sure if your baby is getting enough, which

529
00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:58.119
is one of the most stressful things that I've ever

530
00:22:58.160 --> 00:22:59.960
been through, when your baby is crying and you're like,

531
00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:01.680
I don't know if they're hungry. Like someone told me

532
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:03.799
I have everything that they need. I don't, you know,

533
00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:06.079
Like you just don't know, and you're bleeding and you

534
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.519
haven't showered in three days and like you smell. But

535
00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.240
it's a whole thing. So I think that there are,

536
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.720
like there are prep courses out there for breastfeeding. There's

537
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:15.559
lots of things that you can read, there's lots of

538
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.319
things you can watch. I have whole playlists on my

539
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:20.799
YouTube for free dollars. Just go go there and like

540
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:23.599
look it up. There's like a start here breastfeeding one

541
00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:25.440
on one, and then there's everything you can want to know.

542
00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:30.480
Because I think that the idea that breastfeeding is easy

543
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.000
because it's natural. Is a crocas shit, It's like it

544
00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.720
really is. And I wish people knew that because then

545
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:39.880
it's like when you hit a roadblock, it's okay because

546
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.680
I can guarantee you thousands of other women around the

547
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.279
world have hit this exact same roadblock at this exact

548
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.599
same moment. But people feel really alone when they hit

549
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.759
it because they think everybody else just put their baby

550
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.880
on and a baby lashed and did beautifully. I know

551
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:55.519
a lot of people don't realize that it takes like

552
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.720
three to five days for your milk to transition to

553
00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:00.960
like where you're having this copious breast milk and your

554
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.960
baby is spitting it up when they're feeding, because those

555
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.200
first three to five days they're stressful, like you don't know,

556
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:08.119
you can't, you don't know if you have enough and

557
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.799
your baby's okay. So yeah, again, I'm like, surround yourself

558
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.559
with if you can, positive breastfeeding experiences or experiences of

559
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.759
people who have struggled and been like, this is what

560
00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:20.200
I did. I phoned my sister. I remember my baby

561
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.240
was screaming, and he did everything right. He hit a

562
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.200
great latch, which is like ahead of a lot of people.

563
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:26.240
Some people have, you know, they're having troubles with their

564
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:28.440
breast milks and they're having troubles with their babies latch.

565
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:30.440
So I felt blessed that at least he was doing

566
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:31.799
what he was supposed to do. But he was just

567
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.200
like fussy and hungry. And I phoned my sister and

568
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:36.079
I'm like, can my breast milk run out? I don't know,

569
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.680
Like I don't know. I wasn't an educator at that

570
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.000
point in time. And she's like, do you have anything pumped?

571
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:42.400
And I said, yeah, I happened to have, like I

572
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.000
don't know, an AWS pump.

573
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:44.240
Right.

574
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.119
She's like, I want you to feed that to him.

575
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:47.799
He's going to go to sleep because he's going to

576
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.440
be full and tired, and then I want you to

577
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:51.240
have a drink of water and go to sleep. When

578
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:52.799
you wake up, things will be different. And it was like,

579
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.599
if she hadn't sort of topped me off the ledge

580
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.440
in that moment, I think I would have just kept

581
00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:58.039
throwing them on the boob, which would have made my

582
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.759
nipples even more painful, and then I don't know where

583
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:01.279
we would have been.

584
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:06.000
So you talk about Harry Bottles, mesh underwear, the stuff

585
00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:09.480
that people don't put the pinterest in their pinterest nurseries.

586
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:12.039
Why it's talking about the men actually a form of

587
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.640
self care because I think we need to hear it.

588
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.359
I think we're so trained. I don't know we hit

589
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:20.200
this this stride on social media where everything was so curated,

590
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.039
but I think we, like, we need to see it.

591
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:23.839
We need to see that you don't walk out with

592
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.079
a flat stomach. We need to see that you're wearing

593
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.920
a diaper for three or five days. And you know,

594
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.400
I found that mesh panties were more comfortable than diapers.

595
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.640
But I agree, you do whatever feels yeah.

596
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:35.839
But we need to talk about what that feels like

597
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.799
when you first sit up after you had a baby

598
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:40.000
and like everything feels like it's out of you. Like

599
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.240
it's these things that until you know what it feels like,

600
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.319
you don't know what it feels like right, And then

601
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.400
if you're like, oh my god, I had no idea,

602
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:49.759
Like I have people that will be like my my

603
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.960
Facebook mom's group didn't tell me this, and I was like, well,

604
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.519
that's because not everyone's comfortable looking stuff. Like, I think

605
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.640
it's important that we do. I need more we talk

606
00:25:57.680 --> 00:25:59.359
about it. The more we normalize it. It's the same

607
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:00.880
as mental health. The more we talk about it, the

608
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.640
more it normalizes, and that's where we need to get.

609
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:06.279
I think we're getting there, but it's like a slow

610
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:09.119
it's a slow push on the needle. It's going, but slowly.

611
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.200
I agree. And that's where like my platform kind of

612
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.880
started because I was like, nobody is like nobody. I

613
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:17.799
was older when I had kids, and it was like,

614
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.880
I what is like this? What why are we just

615
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.680
like glamorizing everything. It was kind of yeah, all right,

616
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:31.799
let's do some quick Yeah, that's it.

617
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:32.799
That's the post part of it.

618
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:33.880
The hot that's it.

619
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.359
That's all it is. Yes, the people have babies old.

620
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.799
If you had babies older, and the people in your

621
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:41.680
life it's been a little while since they had babies.

622
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.960
Sometimes we forget. Sometimes you're like oh and then talk

623
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.799
about it. You're like, oh my god, I remember that.

624
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.240
You're like, well, could you have remembered it? Like where

625
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.720
it happened to me? Because I was horrified, Like thanks

626
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:52.359
for nothing.

627
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.880
Thanks for not all right, let's see some rapid fire questions.

628
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.000
What is one thing every mom packs that she never used?

629
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:00.480
This m.

630
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.839
I wouldn't say every mom doesn't use it, But I

631
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.279
would say, you know what's interesting, People pack like beautiful playlists,

632
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.039
and I find people don't actually use them, which surprises me.

633
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:11.799
I don't know if they just forget about it or

634
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.319
it gets really intense and they forget it. So if

635
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.319
you pack music, put it on I want I want

636
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.319
to hear it. I want to jam to like it'll

637
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.440
it'll ground you. It will if especially if you've listened

638
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.079
to the playlist like when you weren't in labor, you'll

639
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.319
like get it. So but yeah, people will be like,

640
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:25.759
oh shoot, I didn't put the music on it, and

641
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.480
I was like, girl, I didn't know you had music.

642
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:29.240
So now I just ask is there anything you want

643
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.079
to listen to? They're like, oh my god, yeah, I

644
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:31.799
have a little speaker.

645
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.359
Yeah. Sometimes I feel like they might feel like awkward

646
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:36.759
being like I have this speaker. Do other people do this?

647
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:37.559
So that's nice?

648
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:40.839
You could you could put a whole cagoke machine and

649
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.400
I'd be like, let's get it. Let's I love that,

650
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.119
just like pulling out all sorts of things, bike and

651
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.680
everything you sing, you do one of your comedy honor.

652
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.960
I love that. What's one thing that they forget that

653
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.079
they actually the most people forget that they might and

654
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:00.680
actually need.

655
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.920
Also a good question a phone charger. People will sometimes

656
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:06.319
forget a phone charger, which is the most important thing

657
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.319
to put in your hospital bag. And the longer the bed.

658
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.720
Put a long ass the longest one you can find,

659
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.319
like extension, because I'm telling the plug ins in the

660
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.039
hospital they're in the most awkward, weird spots. It's like

661
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.519
way down low behind the bed. So by the time

662
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.240
you plug it in and run the cord up and over,

663
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.759
you'd you'd be like talking like this on your phone.

664
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:29.440
You're like a little bit and like, yeah, it's like

665
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.200
your ear. It's just your ear. You're taking a photo.

666
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.119
So the longest, longest phone cord that you could possibly have.

667
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.680
And the other one that people don't put in there

668
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.839
is like all of the really lovely things for your

669
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.880
parentem like recall, like just remember what your parent he

670
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.440
is about to do for you. She deserves love and

671
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.720
support and all the furfre things. So a lot of

672
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:50.880
hospitals will provide it for you, So ask your hospital

673
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.839
if they do, depending on where you give birth. But

674
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.240
I would pack like that the witch hazel phones and

675
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.599
the sprays and the cooling sprays like this is money

676
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.200
well spent because your parents is like your girl, you

677
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:02.000
gotta take care of her.

678
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:04.880
So so you and your husband are both in the

679
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.839
medical field. But who is calmer when one of your

680
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.119
kids get a fever at two am?

681
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.720
My husband for sure, Yeah, my husband, but personally because

682
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:14.440
he's like he sleeps so deeply that if you wake

683
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.480
him up, he just like is an autopilot. He's like,

684
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.599
I'm just ruppy and like. But I think sometimes to

685
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.640
his detriment, because I think sometimes he downplays things too

686
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.599
much because he's just seen too many things.

687
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:27.039
Your match.

688
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.799
Yeah, there was one time, like spots in my dinner

689
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.880
and like weird like floaties and stuff, and I was like,

690
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.920
this is weird, and he's like, oh, it's probably it's

691
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.359
probably nothing. He's like, just go to the optometrist and

692
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.240
they'll look at it. I had two holes in my

693
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.799
retina too, so I came. I come back out eyes

694
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:43.880
like all dilated because he had to dilate my eyes. Yeah,

695
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:45.359
and he's like, so it's nothing, and I was like, no,

696
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:46.960
I have two holes of my retina and now I

697
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.880
have to go get them laser. What in the pupil

698
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.039
place anyway, he's like, oh shoot, sorry, it's Goh my god,

699
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:55.880
I think I think too many things.

700
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.799
Yeah, that is too funny. What's your favorite favorite snack

701
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.039
on night shift? Mm hmm.

702
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:08.279
Anything crunchy like chips, nuts, talky nuts, like salted salty nuts.

703
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:10.119
Yeah, salty nuts.

704
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.640
Yeah, like absolutely get me kick labor nurse like salty yeah. Yeah,

705
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.359
crunchy because it keeps me anything that I can like

706
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.559
put in individually, so like Smarties, Skittles. And I was

707
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.640
the same way in nursing school because I would get

708
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.720
really sleepy and exams, so if I had a snack

709
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:29.440
that I would eat too quickly, then it didn't help

710
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:31.319
me out. But so I would just get like Smarties

711
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.519
or Eminem's and just like one at a time because

712
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.160
then it like it also kept my brain activated when

713
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.240
I was doing your individual motion. I love the Starburst

714
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:40.880
due you guys in the States, you have like the

715
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.880
all pinks and favorite. Yes, I don't like the yellow,

716
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:49.799
all the yellows, all the yellows. I'm telling you, so

717
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.559
anytime I go to the States, a big bag of

718
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.920
like the just bangs. Yeah, because I'm just pinking rut.

719
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.839
Just give me the They're great at night because then

720
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:59.960
you have to unwrap them, which makes you be away

721
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:01.559
and then you get the deliciousness.

722
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:06.839
So yeah, funny, what's what's my favorite stack popcorn? Popcorn?

723
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:12.079
Is like? Because yeah, like I actually just got like

724
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.640
this random bag at like home Goods of popcorn, you know,

725
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:16.640
like that I always make it on the stove, but

726
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.359
like I got one. I always like their sacks the

727
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.000
I need. I took a picture of it, but it

728
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.920
was the best bagged popcorn that I've ever had, and

729
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:28.279
I was like, I need like ten more bags of these, right, yes,

730
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.480
that on my stocking list. What's one book that you

731
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.759
would gift all new parents? You know what?

732
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.640
Speak well? Speaking of Hamilton? Next, So Jen Hamilton, I'm

733
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:41.880
not her agent. I promise I'm not getting any kickbacks

734
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.720
from this. Literally two days ago just launched her her

735
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.759
first book. It's called Birth Vibes. Okay, it's incredibly Okay,

736
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.440
it's so insightful, beautifully written. Again, there's so many like

737
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.319
real life things, just the way stock it's a It's

738
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.000
an incredible book. It will be like on my list

739
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:03.960
of books that now gift to expecting parents just so

740
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.839
it's so good and for me, it's like it's not

741
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.839
about the flowery like what to expect when you're expecting,

742
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.160
right Like. I mean, that's great for some people who

743
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:13.759
want that, but I don't think that that's real life.

744
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.359
I don't think it's as applicable now in twenty twenty

745
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.559
six as it was you know, back in the you know,

746
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.240
nineteen nineties, two thousands.

747
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:20.839
It's been around.

748
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.599
It has a time and a place and a person.

749
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.000
It's got a ton of great information, but I think

750
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.480
people are looking for more of the real life, nitty gritty,

751
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:33.160
applicable hope. And I actually utilize this to have a

752
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:35.480
more positive birth experience, and that is what Birth Lives

753
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:35.920
will do for you.

754
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.839
I love that, all right, Well, you have given us

755
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.200
so much amazing information. If you could sit down with

756
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.359
every tired, burnt out mom listening to this right now

757
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.960
and think glasses, what would your toast be to them?

758
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.079
I would say cheers to you, because I think we

759
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.079
forget who did that, right. I would say cheers to you,

760
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.599
Cheers to your family the things that matter the most

761
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.920
in life, which is not going to be the tear

762
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.880
that you had. It's not going to be the lack

763
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.119
of a push present that your husband gave you. You know,

764
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.839
it's going to be those moments with the snuggles, and

765
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.400
it's going to be those moments moving forward where you

766
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.200
are actually creating memories as a family as opposed to

767
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.359
somebody carrying their baby inside.

768
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.599
That is great. I think that is the perfect place

769
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.119
to end it. I cannot thank you enough. Oh my gosh,

770
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:25.839
you reminded us today, really truly that the mess isn't

771
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.279
something to hide. It's evidence that we are doing the work.

772
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.599
So thank you for joining us today. I appreciate it.

773
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:37.000
Thanks for having me, Thanks reving, thank you, Thank you

774
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.279
to listeners for spending time with us today on the

775
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.160
Running Wine Mom. Don't forget to subscribe and share this

776
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.680
with a mom who might like to hear it. You

777
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.920
can follow me on Instagram at the Running Wine Mom

778
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.960
underscore And where can the listeners find you?

779
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:50.640
They can find you know, I'm kind of all over

780
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.799
the place. My website is Bump to Latch dot com.

781
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.759
It's kind of a landing page where you can find me.

782
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.599
But if you're looking on socials, it's going to be Mama,

783
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.839
which is with one mma underscore, nurse Underscore, Tina.

784
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.400
And I will link all of that. Thank you again

785
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.920
so much for coming on. This is great. I appreciate it. Yes,

786
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.400
thank you so much for joining us today. Remember you

787
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.440
are strong, you were capable, and you were all amazing.

788
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.360
Until next time, keep running, keep sipping, and keep embracing

789
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.280
the joy of parenthood. Thanks and I'll be back next Tuesday.