Aug. 20, 2025

Jeff & Steph are talking about - What are the end of time Prophets saying? When do we surrender and let God lead us?

Jeff & Steph are talking about - What are the end of time Prophets saying? When do we surrender and let God lead us?
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There is a lot of end time prophecy being spoken, How do you know when someone is speaking truely prophetically.  As we all go through seasons, it is hard, but how do we surrender to God and let him guide us.  Even if we don't feel close to us, what kind of signs let us know he definatley is? Accept when God challenges your faith.

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Waiting the day light. Sounds I'm gotta get to the Starbucks,

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get some magic bees, be on my way. Magical Sassmason,

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We don't know.

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That today. Well, hi, and welcome to these days where

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Jeff and Steph. I am Jeff, and we'll be joining

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with Steph here in a second one. Thank you all

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for joining us today. We're coming to you from a

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Catholic perspective. We'll be talking about Bible history and some

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prophecy and mysticism and all that good stuff. Steph, how

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are you doing today?

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I'm hanging in there trying to wade through a lot

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of discernment and big life changes today. How are you doing? Jeff?

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A lot better than you have time? Sounds like I don't.

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I'm just kind of like floating on a lazy river

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right now in the middle of summer.

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I feel like I'm in the middle of a hurricane. So, yeah,

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you are doing You're doing want better than me?

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Yeah? I ah? How's the weather out there?

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At least it's hot. It's the same. It's the same

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as usual, just hot. And I think we're supposed to

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get a break from all that at the end of

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the end of the week. Here how about you.

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Guys, same thing. It's hot and it's in this weekend,

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it's going to cool off. So I don't know. I

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love summer, so it's only going to be in the

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seventies we get a break and went ooh, that means

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summer's all silver.

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They's bumming you out. I've been meaning to ask you

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when's your birthday? Is your birthday in summer?

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June and fifth?

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Okay? I figured it might be because people who like summer,

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I've noticed, usually have a birthday in the summer.

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Yeah. I don't know if I told you this, but

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growing up I noticed that you guys call him cicadas,

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that I recall him Katie DIDs, and they always hit

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right about this time. And so as a little kid,

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you runn aroun the neighborhood and then you hear the

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Katie did and you'd be like, ah, summer was coming

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doing that, and went so I started chirping.

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Right, Yeah, they're chirping loud here. They annoyed the crap

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out of me.

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Really, I'm talking about the end of summer here. But

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there's a lot of prophecy going out there that we

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might be in the end times and all that kind

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of stuff. All kinds of profits are you can hear

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them everywhere and radio, newspaper a lot, online and all

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that kind of stuff. So how do you know when

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somebody's being prophetic or not?

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Well, first of all, I would like to say, there

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are three kind of testing points that I've heard some

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really good profits that I admire or who I respect,

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I guess I would say and think that they do

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have true prophetic gifts. They say, first of all, it

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should never be because somebody actually may have a prophetic

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gift and have a true calling to deliver a prophetic message,

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that doesn't necessarily mean that message is for you. So

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you do have to discern it. And you know, the

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Bible says test the spirit and test the message, and

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so you have to always go back to God in prayer,

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so and say is this message for me? Is this

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word for me? You know, you just need to always

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if you feel like it might be for you, always

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go back to God in prayer and with scripture. But

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but the three main things are, Number one, it's not

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going to be new information. It's going to be something

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that you feel like God has already been telling you

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for a while. God God usually will use the prophet

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to confirm his message. So you know, you feel like

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God's telling you a specific thing over and over and

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then you see a prophetic message that says the same thing. Well,

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there's your confirmation. Number two, it's always going to align

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with scripture. It's never going to say anything that goes

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against the scriptures. And number three, it should be comforting

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and uplifting. It shouldn't be doom and gloom. I mean,

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there are messages about how we are in the end times,

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and we all know the end times are biblical. It's

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going to happen, but there should be some kind of

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you know, that's not a fun thing to think about,

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but there should be some kind of thread of hope.

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I guess in the message, Like even if our hope

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is that we're in Jesus Christ, right, so even we

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all know we're going to die. Father heels it all

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the time. He's like, well, if you don't know you're

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gonna die, I can't help you, right, He's like, he like,

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don't even come to me and talk about stuck in

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up toilet paper. He goes, you're just going to be

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the first house that gets raided when everybody else runs

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out of toilet paper. What good is that going to do?

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You know, like He's like, we're gonna die, but our

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hope is in Jesus and in eternity, and so yeah,

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but I think it's interesting. So I was I was

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going to read this scripture just for all of our

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all of our friends who may be a little skeptical

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about prophecy and Acts two seventeen. It does say it

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shall come to pass in the last days, and I

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think we all recognize we were in the last days.

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Saith God, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh.

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Your sons and your daughters will prophesy, Your young men

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will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams.

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And I think that, you know, men should be translated

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as men and women. You're young men or women will

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see visions, you're old men and women will dream dreams.

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And you know, I've definitely seen visions, had dreams, and

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you know, so I saw profit I really respect. The

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other day, she had a really interesting point. Sometimes God

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will show you his heart. It doesn't mean that something's

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necessarily going to come true. You can be praying about

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something and asking about something and he can say, yeah,

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this is my heart. For this to happen. Marriage reconciliation,

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for one, A lot of people are talking about marriage reconciliation,

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and this is a season where God is reconciling marriages

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and families. That is his heart. Reconciliation is his heart,

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That's what he wants. But doesn't necessarily mean it's going

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to happen, no, because I mean, you look at how

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the Egyptian I mean how the Israelites wandered through Egypt.

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It was supposed to be a short journey, right, and

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they were wandering around for forty years. Why because of

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their disobedience, they lack of faith and their rebelliousness. I

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mean even Moses who did all these great things at

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the end, well, he was supposed to speak to the rock.

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God said, what speak to the rock? And instead he

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was disobedient and he struck it with his staff. So

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he was disobedient and he liked faith, and he wasn't

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allowed to of the promised lamb, which can seem really

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harsh and unfair, but you know, God is pretty serious

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about obedience and faith. And you know, if you have

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a rebellious spirit or a disobedient spirit, you very well

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could live out your life and not see the fulfillment

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of what God's heart is, of what his ultimate desire

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for your life was. And that's a scary thing to me.

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That's a that's a sad thing.

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Well, he needs your obedience. He easy to follow it

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in order to get the best out of you. I

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mean he he can have a plan for you, and

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you can be going along and then he's gonna go okay,

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and Jesus talked about Okay, you're gonna have some rough

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bites and so just keep you know, believing in me.

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Then you hit the rough spots and then all of

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a sudden, now you're not obedient, and so now it

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changes on how you would have come out of the

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rough spots, and so now it's not where it was

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originally supposed to be.

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So it changes the whole trajectory of your life really exactly. Yeah,

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I can even relate it to It's like you can

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feel it, like when I knew I was supposed to

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move to Nashville, you know, like right when I I

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knew I was supposed to move to Nashville when I

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came up here with my mom when I was seventeen

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and I just had to get through high school and

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graduate and I went to college for a year there.

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But then I knew I was supposed to move here

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at twenty one, and I had come up here and

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we had been in this songwriting competition and I had

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met this girl. God God was lying. I could feel

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his favor. You're gonna lose God's favor when you're dis obedient,

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that's the thing. So I could feel his favor. He

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lined me up with this girl that was my age,

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that had come up to us because she thought my

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mom's song was really great. And my mom was like, oh,

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you should meet my daughter. She's your age, and like

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we I think I had told you about her. She

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was married to the drummer of Ricochet. They had just

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signed a record deal and we were like. She was like, yea,

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you should live with us. We have a two bedroom

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town home and we kind of had it all worked

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out and I could feel God's favor on it, and

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he was like, yes, move now. I gave you the roommate,

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I gave you the friend, I gave you the end

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to the music business. I've done it all for you.

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He opened all the doors. I go back to Texas

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and I meet a guy right I get in this

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relationship that I shouldn't have been in, and then a

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year and a half later when that doesn't work out,

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and I mean it was it was like hard on me.

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The minute it didn't work out. I was like, I've

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got to move to Nashville. I'm late. That's what I

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felt like, you know. I was like, I'm late. I'm

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late for a very important day. So I packed up

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my stuff with five hundred bucks in a tiny U

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haul and I came. I did. I came. I came

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straight to Nashville knowing I kind of knew, and now hindsight,

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now I know I was disobedient. But even then I

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kind of had this feeling that I had missed my

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window and that I was late and that you know,

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I didn't really know the feeling, but now I can

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put words to it that I've lost God's favor because

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nothing really felt right now didn't mean I still wasn't

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supposed to be here. No, and God still had mercy,

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He still worked things out. I did still end up

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living with that girl, But how many opportunities did I miss?

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Like she ended up being friends with Brad Paisley and

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going to some of his like before I got here,

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So like I missed opportunities and I missed connections. And

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by the time I got here and we moved in together,

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she was already going about to go through her divorce.

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It was It's just like it felt like the timing

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was off the whole time, and it was all because

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of my disobedience. So that that's one great example of

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we need to be in tune with God, and we

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need to be staying in scripture and in prayer to

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know what God is, where he's He'll tell it, he'll

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tell you, He'll make it clear. I knew I was

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supposed to come to Nashville, and I chose my flesh,

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and so that's a big lesson for some people out there.

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And like anybody else too. And that's like we said,

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what makes God mad? Well, yeah, he had that all

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lined up for you, and then I was saying, come on, man,

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I get all this for you down here, and right now,

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I think he'd be asked to realize, Okay, you missed

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your window, but that doesn't mean Guy's not going to

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open another one for.

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You, right exactly. That's very true. But yeah, but we

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make it harder on ourselves, and you could miss your

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window completely because I don't know, I just you do see,

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you do see. I mean I know older people who

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are like, I know, I should have stayed with my

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wife or I know this, you know, I should have

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taken this path. They look back when they're old and

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they're like, you know, I screw my whole life up,

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and what could it have been? And you have to

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live and some people die with that question what could

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it have been?

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Yeah, that's true. But then I think also once they

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tried something else and it didn't work, they kept looking

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back at that and blaming that window instead of looking

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for more opportunities. Right, you know, it's kind of like, Okay, yeah,

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I've screwed up. I should have never divorced that woman.

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She was the best woman I ever had. And then

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was he looking to replace her then? Or was he

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you know, was he looking to say, Okay, well, God

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is going to give me another woman along the way,

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and you know she's not going to be like that

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first one, but you know, still be happy, right I do.

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I feel I feel like God has an ultimate plan

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for all of our lives, which is His greatest glory

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and blessings and all that. Now, if we miss that

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he'll still he will still be merciful. I do think

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we calls curses and generational stuff though onto our life

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when we miss especially if you're disobedient, when he's telling

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you to do something. Now that's different, you know than

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right then just you know, there's his mercy and his plan.

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B if you're you know, but if you're if you're

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really being disobedient and he had a real plan for

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your life, then I don't know. I just saw it

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with my own mom and dad when they died. I

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actually did feel a pretty strong sense of that they

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had not fulfilled God's plans for their life. And that

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was really sad to me, even though there was a

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lot of grace and there was good times, but they

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also had a lot of tribulation, a lot of hard times.

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Well you also you've egested I can't even talk care no,

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but you were telling me the story and I actually

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watched it by a rugby player who his life totally

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changed on a.

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Dime, right, And then this is where God has a

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plan for your life and you have to make the

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best out of something tragic. And actually I just had

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an email from Father Rosetti, who's an exorcist in this country.

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Great little thing he had written about grace. Grace's come

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through suffering, and there's no cheap grace. He was saying,

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like people sometimes look at people who have so much,

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like so many prospiraual gifts and prophecy and all this stuff,

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that they don't realize how much these people have suffered.

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In every saint. You look at the saints, they all

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suffered a lot to get the graces they had. So

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I kind of look at the prophets that I do

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consider legitimate. I guess you would say they've suffered a lot,

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and they've suffered well, and they've chosen to pick up

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their cross and to be with God. So this guy,

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I think he pronounced his name, he's pretty popular. He's

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got a YouTube channel like millions of years, and he's

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from South Africa, and he travels to America a lot.

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God calls him to come to the States a lot.

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And I think he's actually going to be here the

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whole month of August and September teaching a prophetic workshop.

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And he does. He leans him in ours and all this.

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So anyway, he was he's in South Africa. Cute young

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guy was really good at rugby. Was about to sign

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to a professor because rugby is big in South Africa,

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not football, and was about to get signed to a

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professional rugby team, and he had do you know the story?

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Do you know his like accident story? Did you watch

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his conversion thing?

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I kind of flipped through. I missed his actual conversion part.

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Okay, Well, so he has this car accident and he's

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out in the middle of nowhere and he's not even conscious,

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and so this guy finds him and when he wakes up,

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it's just him in this very tall, skinny, dark he said,

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dark skinned man. And the man says, my name is Gabriel,

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and he said, and he said, I've called the paramedics.

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I've told them where you are. I mean, the guy

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called the paramedics and gave them the exact coordinates of

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where they were, because they weren't there was no street

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signs or anything, was in the middle of nowhere. And

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he said, I've called your father and I've let him

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know what's happened and in what hospital will be taken

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He already knew that, the guy, Gabriel knew what hospital

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they'd be taking them to, and he told all one.

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He goes and I've saved my number in your phone,

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and I gave my father. I gave your father my

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phone number as well. And you're gonna be okay. And

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that's what he told him. He's like, you're going to

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be okay and when and you know, allwe says. He

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kind of passed out again after that, and when the

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paramedics got there, they were amazed at the position they

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found him in because they said, you know, being thrown

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from the car like that, and his spine was messed up.

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They said, this guy had moved him to a position

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that there's no way he could have got into by

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being thrown from the car if somebody had to put

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him in that position, and it was the exact perfect

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position for him to be in to not have further

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spinal damage. And anyway, they take him to the hospital.

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He undergoes like two days worth of spinal surgery. It

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was like a week or two later. He was in

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the hospital and started thinking about that man Gabriel. He's like,

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you know, he'd been through so much, he hadn't even

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really thought about him, but he thought, I need to

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call him and say thank you. And so he gets

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his phone, he looks it up and the number's gone.

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He's like he hadn't seen it in there, and he

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calls his dad. He's like, hey, you know that Gabriel

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guy that found me. I want to call him and

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say thank you. And his dad was like he looked

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through his phone and is like the number's gone, and

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both of them had seen the number in there, and

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isn't that crazy? And so yeah, fast forward, this guy's

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got a huge ministry. Now. He went through about a

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year or two years of being really depressed and having

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suicidal thoughts and not wanting to live if he was

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going to have to be in a wheelchair. And you know,

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he said he heard God's very clearly tell him you

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will walk again and run again someday in this life.

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I promise you that. He said, he promised him the healing.

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And then he talks a lot about waiting for God's

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promises to come true, that if you have heard from God,

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and you know you've heard from God, you have to

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hang on to that promise because God's ways are higher

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than our ways. His timing is not our timing. And

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he's been waiting for ten years, so he gets it.

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But he's like, you know, I would never change that

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he did a video the other day, was real emotional.

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He said, I would never change the person I am

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right now. If God had healed me sooner, I would

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never be the person I am right now. So just

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like that spiritual growth.

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Right, And a lot of people think that for it

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to be a miracle, you know, God had promised me

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you will run and you will walk again. And I

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think a lot of people just construe that that all

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of a sudden they're going to have a big white

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lights shine over and boom, and they're going to hop

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out of bed and all that. And I realized that

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there could be somebody in a university right now figure

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out how to fix that. So his and that's how

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he could walk too.

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That's a great point. Yeah, it could be from Yeah,

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God loves to work with us. It's not always just

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like him waving the magic wand and then more healed, right.

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So God said, you know he knew that. Okay, they're

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working on this. They're going to figure it out. Just

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give them time. You know, it might take fifteen twenty years,

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but they'll figure out how to get you walking again.

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Don't worry about it.

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That's true. And I mean just a cool Well said,

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note he had not had any feeling in his you know,

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from like waist down for years, and that did start

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coming back over the past summer. He started being able

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to He started feeling pain and uncomfortable by sitting in

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the chair all day and having some pain in his

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foot and he was like, that's just crazy. It was

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crazy to him. So he's not walking again yet, but

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there are maybe signs something's happening. I don't know, but

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he was pretty excited about it.

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And we'll think about this when all of just to

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break people in general, it's the one thing you want

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to avoid in life, and that's pain. But this guy,

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he's been paralyzed, so pain for him is just awesome. Hey,

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I can feel it.

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What a good point. Yeah, I never thought about it

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that way. You're exactly right, man. Yeah, And maybe the

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very thing that we are trying to avoid is the

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one thing that's going to save us. Yeah. God loves

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to flip the script like that. I've noticed, like I'm

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such a type a plan everything out person. God's got

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me in the season where I don't know exactly where

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I'm going to live. I have a part time job,

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but it's definitely not enough long term to support me.

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But he told me to take it. Literally, he told

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me to take it. There's just all these balls up

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in the air and these missing pieces to my puzzle,

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and I'm in this role uncertain place, and it's very uncomfortable.

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So all I can do is like take it one

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day at a time. If anybody wants to pray for me,

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I appreciate prayers, but I need them. It's just like

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trust in God. I think he's just trying to teach

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me to trust him for the day. And maybe it's

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because of the times we're in where we're all about

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to see, like all the prophets are saying, so many

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of them are saying, and I'm getting the same message

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that these last couple of weeks of August or preparation

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and that we are about to see a major shaking

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and judgment in the world. So he may be trying

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to grow us to where we can live in the

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uncomfortable spots. Right now.

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I've been getting a lot of messages and stuff. It

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seems like there's a lot of prophets are talking about

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this whole thing between the UK and Ukrainian and Russia

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and all that kind of stuff. Have you been following

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any of the profits on that I have?

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I have what one prophet said that it felt very

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true to me. He said he saw a vision of

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a white flag, but it was like a it was

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a fake so like it was going to look like

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peace on the outside. And you know that he saw

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Trump as Trump is like acting as a broker, which

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I think we can all agree. Trump is like Trump's

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really telling the people like, y'all aren't making any money,

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nobody's winning, and you know Trump hates losers. He's like,

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you know, people are dying, nobody's winning, nobody's making any money.

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You could do it this way, you do it my way.

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You're going to make money. People don't have to die,

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and everybody wins. You know, that's kind of his spiell

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so to speak. And it's actually what this guy said

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is it's going to be a catalyst. It's going to

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be a catalyst for God's judgment to begin when that happens.

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So he didn't just because one of the sides is

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going to actually take advantage of it or something.

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No, it's just almost going to be like a trigger

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in the spiritual world for God's wrath and judgment to begin.

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Like what he's been saying to all the prophets and

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to me too, is that this is really a season

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where he's taking down the prideful we're coming to times

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of revival. That what happens to be to spark revival,

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it's usually hardship and war and trials, and you know,

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it's like the pride being humbled to where you can

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turn back to God. You've got to be humbled forgot,

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you know, to take for a revival to happen, there's

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usually a humbling that happens first, I guess, is what

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I'm saying.

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Well, yeah, pride is I mean, throughout the Bible Old Testament,

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pride is one of the worst things that God just hates.

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I mean, that's just right. You can't deal with it.

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It ruins everything and.

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A rebellious spirit. And I would say that the majority

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of people on the earth right now are walking around

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in pride and disobedience and what the rebellious spirit wanted

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to do things their way and not really asking God

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what is your way? Or like most people are not

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fully submitted to God. I mean for sure.

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Well, and one thing too, when we talk about pride now,

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there's a difference because some people, well, you can be

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proud of yourself. You know that you should be. That

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should be your self esteem. You should be a proud

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of who you are and all that. But you need

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to be prideful that you're not doing this by yourself,

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that God is behind the scenes helping you out do this.

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So when you see a professional athlete, he just makes

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a great catch or something and thank you God, Well

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he's acknowledging it. Well, now you get some other guy

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who sit at their beats his chest. No, that was me.

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I made that catch, and he can just almost feel

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the difference in the two the two men as they are.

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You can tell you who is humbled and who is not,

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and who is going to go farther and who's.

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Not exactly, And you see it time and time again.

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I mean with the especially with the athletes who are

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really good and really talented, who are not humble, something

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always happens where they have some kind of downfall.

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Right, So yeah, it's a pride, it's it's got Well,

471
00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.160
let's just go back to what we were talking about,

472
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:28.680
what you've been following the profits we're talking about the

473
00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:31.519
Ukraine and Russia. Now, not just that one, but pretty

474
00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:33.720
much any conflict in there. It gets to a point

475
00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:37.119
where you want peace. Pride steps in, you know, they said,

476
00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.559
you know, one tide didn't want to acknowledge this is

477
00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:41.920
no on the other side, we're not giving up this,

478
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.200
you know, And so they both dig their heels in

479
00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:46.160
because of their pride. And if they just swallowed it,

480
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:49.319
both swallowed, then you can actually come to the middle, right.

481
00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:51.720
And it's so hard to get to that heart place

482
00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.599
where Christ wants us to be, where we're actually not

483
00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:57.240
concerned about ourselves, but we're willing, willing the good of

484
00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.799
the other. Like that's really what you know. Jesus said,

485
00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.079
if somebody, you know, watch what do you say, watch

486
00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:07.119
your well, he said, you know, give him the coat,

487
00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.279
give him, you know, give give him your jacket to

488
00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:11.799
you know, give him everything, and don't ask for it back.

489
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:14.160
Like can I take a side step because that that

490
00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.599
brought me into a joke, you know, Jesus says that

491
00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:18.920
he said, you know, if he asked, if you he

492
00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:20.880
asked for your coat, give it to him. If he

493
00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:22.759
asked you to walk a mile, walk two miles, and

494
00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:24.880
all that kind of stuff. There's this one said, but

495
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.160
you know, the whole thing is walk a mile in

496
00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.680
somebody else's shoes, goes. If you walk a mile in

497
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.799
my shoes, all you have done is walk a mile.

498
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.079
You spend ten minutes in my head. That'll really freak

499
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:42.440
you out. So anyway, now we'll go back to I

500
00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:44.000
just couldn't let that joke go. I though I think

501
00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:45.319
it's really good. I think it's clean.

502
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.079
Funny. Yeah that is funny, but yeah, it's that's the

503
00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.680
hard that's the hard part is to and I guess

504
00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.839
it's all just like human selfishness too. It's like we

505
00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:58.039
were always thinking about ourselves. It's hard to like put

506
00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:00.920
you know, as people, we need to put the other

507
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.200
person first, and as countries we don't do that like

508
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.319
we I mean, of course, you have to take care

509
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:09.519
of your yourself, and you can't be there's a difference

510
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:12.920
between being compassionate and being a doormat right.

511
00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.880
And like when a lot of people that they kind

512
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.599
of misinterbed when they said pray for your enemies, you know,

513
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:20.799
and treat your enemies right and all that kind of stuff,

514
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.359
well they take what basically Jesus is. I don't want

515
00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.319
to put words in Jesus now, not get me in trouble.

516
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.880
But when he's basically saying, you know, basically, if they

517
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.680
need help, help them, you know, go ahead and give

518
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.880
them some food, give them some water, you know, if

519
00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.319
they don't do what they need to survive, and all

520
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:39.359
this kind of stuff. You know, me saying to pray

521
00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:41.920
for him, Well, sure you pray them. Okay, God, this

522
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.519
person's trying to kill me, but they didn't. Now I

523
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.759
give him some food and water, you know, let them

524
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.799
good life now. And they say, well, I'm not praying

525
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.960
for them. They hurt me so bad. Well, when you're

526
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:53.400
praying for them, you're not asking God to buy them

527
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.519
a new car. You know, you're trying to say, hey, God,

528
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:58.359
do what you have to do with them, man, and

529
00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:01.880
then let me. You know, it's totally different, right.

530
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:03.880
Because I feel I think the reason he said. I

531
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.000
think there's also like the last part of that verse.

532
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:08.480
It says, in doing when you pray for your enemies,

533
00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:12.680
in doing so, you're heaping coals on their head. Right,

534
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.119
So it's like, when you pray for somebody, it keeps

535
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.200
your heart from getting bitters. It's actually almost like it's

536
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.759
medicine for you. It keeps you from getting bitter. It

537
00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.079
helps you let go of the negativity or whatever pain

538
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.960
or harm they've caused you. And then it's like you're

539
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.119
giving it to God so that you know, he said,

540
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.039
vengeance is mine and he suggests God. So if somebody

541
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.079
is walking in an unjust path, he is, he's going

542
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:37.680
to take care of him. I mean, they're going to

543
00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:38.519
have to account for that.

544
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.599
So yeah, it's just that's that whole pride thing. I mean,

545
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.079
it's just like, okay, you oh I love God, I

546
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:47.079
love God. Oh, then you don't trust God's going to

547
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:50.319
do straighten out. It's going to keep you good. But

548
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:51.799
then he's going to take care of the person who

549
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.400
did you wrong. Also, he can do.

550
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:57.400
That right right, and and there's a righteous judgment. I mean,

551
00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.599
he said, if he loves you, he is to discipline

552
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.599
you like a good father. He wants you to come

553
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.480
to repentance. He wants you to come to a place

554
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.200
where you're not prideful. So sometimes you know, you do

555
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.319
get disciplined and go through hard things just so he

556
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.759
can take down your pride, so he can change your

557
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:14.559
heart and make you just make you a kinder, more

558
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.119
compassionate person. I definitely have been through that in my

559
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:18.200
own life, you know.

560
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.839
Yeah, and maybe this, like you said this, you can't

561
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.559
Ukraine Russia thing might be a catalyst that one prophet

562
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.759
speaking about, and it can because lots of times certain

563
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:31.559
things they need to be done in public so everybody

564
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:33.359
else can witness this, so not everybody else has to

565
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:34.359
go through the same thing too.

566
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.680
That's true, that's true. I mean, I do think we

567
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.119
are in a time of duality where I don't know

568
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.440
what's coming and we only prophesy on part. But I

569
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.759
think it's it's just like what we've been saying the

570
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:48.440
best of times, in the worst of times. I think

571
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:51.640
we're going to see God's wonders, signs and miracles. Just

572
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.920
draw close to God because I feel like we're just

573
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.519
going on. We're about to be like on the I mean,

574
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.920
it's going to be a rough ride, but there's going

575
00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:02.119
to be miracles, there's going to be provisioned who knows

576
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:03.920
what's going to happen. There's also going to be judgment,

577
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:06.519
and there's there's going to be, you know, a shaking

578
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.160
of the world systems that are not good because He's

579
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.519
he's changing that and he's making the path straight for

580
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.759
his return. Like, basically that's what's happening. I mean, he's

581
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:17.839
he's getting ready to return. Whether it's fifty years, one

582
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.480
hundred years, I don't think it's that far in the future.

583
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:22.720
I really don't have had to bet my life on it,

584
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.039
or even like more importantly, if I had to bet

585
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.839
my dog or my cat's life on it, I would say,

586
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.720
I don't think it's that far off. But he's got

587
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.960
to humble everybody first and get every He was the

588
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:35.720
Bible saying he's coming back for a spotless bride. So

589
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:37.640
he doesn't want to come back for a bride that's

590
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:40.480
all dirty and nasty. He's like, he's trying to clean

591
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:41.440
us up, right.

592
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:43.400
You know.

593
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:49.680
Yeah, you can got a lot of different paths. Paths

594
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:53.599
that I'll say this in the spirit of healing as

595
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.880
much as my personal life as it is a tornado

596
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:58.839
right now, and I don't like it and I'm not

597
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.720
comfortable in it. On a deeper level, I have felt

598
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.559
a shift, and all the prophets are talking about how

599
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.599
there's been a shift. I can say that that's true

600
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.160
because I do feel a sense of deeper peace and

601
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.960
joy and boldness and courage and strength that has come

602
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:15.279
back into me. So there is like a deeper healing

603
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:19.480
that's going on right now in the midst of this tornado.

604
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.759
I'm not quite as I'm finding that I'm able to

605
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.160
walk through hard things with more grace right now.

606
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.279
Well, that's what maybe he needed. He said that you're

607
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.720
that' typer personality, you like AB and C and you

608
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:35.200
don't feel comfortable. Maybe he she's too comfortable. She needs

609
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.359
to start realizing what it's like not to be so comfortable.

610
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.480
I needed to throw a little uncomfortable in here, you

611
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:40.440
call it into her.

612
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.720
Yeah, I mean you can very well be right and

613
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.119
to trust him for everything, because it's like, I'm really

614
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.279
having to trust that. I think God he loves us,

615
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.200
and he wants to prove his love to us. He's

616
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.119
such a good god like so he wants to put

617
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.799
us in these situations that might look awful and impossible

618
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.599
so that he can show up and show us that.

619
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.839
We can look back and go, wow, God really does

620
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.359
love us. He's really, he's real. He's there for us,

621
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:06.200
and look what he did.

622
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.240
Yeah, and he's not above testing you either.

623
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.599
He's not above testing us. That's for sure. That is

624
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:13.079
for sure.

625
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.440
You say you love me go I want to see.

626
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.920
You know, isn't that true? And we do that to

627
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.119
each other as well, But yeah, we do. I think

628
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.720
I think humans test each other. God God test is

629
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:25.240
for sure.

630
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.440
Well, if we were made in his image, if He's

631
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.160
going to do it, why wouldn't we do it too?

632
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.799
Right? I mean, and even Jesus does it. Like he said,

633
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.920
you know, if anybody who would look back and look

634
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.519
to the power whatever want to bury your mother or father,

635
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.359
you're not worthy of my kingdom. So he's like yeah,

636
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.400
and like I prove to me that you want to

637
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:44.799
follow me?

638
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.680
Yeah, And that's where that's And it's hard. I mean,

639
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.880
we're just pontificating about our All you have to do

640
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.279
is just follow Jesus and always, you know. But it

641
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.079
gets hard. I mean your question's creak been to your

642
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.240
mind is like going, I didn't even do it anything.

643
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.960
Why are you testing me? You know?

644
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.839
It's so hard. Yeah, it's so hard. And all I

645
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.559
can say is that the pain does purify you. And

646
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.559
I guess that's why God uses pain. I mean, it's

647
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:13.319
not like we're really going to get purified if we're

648
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:17.599
sitting around all day eating marshmallows and looking at rainbows. Right.

649
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.680
Well, I'm not prophetic or anything like that, I'll admit it,

650
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.440
but I just realized I do have. What I said

651
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.240
earlier does have a connection with the early Bible. Okay,

652
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.279
we talked about that rugby player who's paralyzed and now

653
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.119
all of a sudden he's starting to get some pain

654
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.279
into his legs and so that's cool and for him,

655
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:37.480
you know, it's like, yes, okad. We think about the Apostles.

656
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.759
When you think about Paul and them, when they would

657
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.880
get whipped and scourged and all that kind of stuff,

658
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:43.839
they loved it because they were getting closer to Jesus

659
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:45.720
that way that they were going through what Jesus as

660
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:46.119
went through.

661
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:49.119
That's true. That's true that he said count it all joy.

662
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.920
And that's a hard burst for me. Counted all joy.

663
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.000
When you're thinking about counting suffering as joy, that's a

664
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:55.559
hard one.

665
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.559
That's very hard. I mean, it's just it's hard to

666
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.119
wrap your mind around. And I like going, Okay, this sucks.

667
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.519
So how am I supposed to No, I can't be

668
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:06.559
happy about it.

669
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.079
It's so true, I mean, and I think it is

670
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.319
like you feel his presence, he says, I'll draw close

671
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.480
to the broken hearted. I think you feel his presence

672
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.880
when you're going through these hard times when you really strongly,

673
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.480
like you just know he's there and there's a special

674
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.279
intimate relationship you have. And then when things kind of

675
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.519
go back to normal, quote unquote normal where it's a

676
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.559
little bit, like you said, easier, we're kind of floating

677
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.279
along the lazy river, you might not feel this presence

678
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.960
as much, and that's the downside, like life's a little easier.

679
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.480
But I mean he kind of shows up when you

680
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.039
need him. He's always there, of course, but you know

681
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:38.880
you kind of feel his presence more when you're going

682
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.039
through the trials and the fire.

683
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.240
Yeah, and let's be honest, I'll be honest with you.

684
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:46.599
I'd rather float down the lazy river and know he's

685
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.440
there than be going through hell and have him feeling

686
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.680
feel his presence one hundred percent.

687
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.799
I think that's yeah. I think yeah. I don't think

688
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.759
there's anything wrong with that. I mean, even Jesus in

689
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.440
the garden said, you know, if it's your will, take

690
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.839
this cup for me, right. It's human. We don't want

691
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.680
to suffer. We don't want to suffer. But you know,

692
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.240
it's just it's part of life unfortunately, and.

693
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.920
If you grew up in church, you as soon as

694
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.160
you start being able to understand anything in the Bible,

695
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.200
one of the first things you realize is Jesus from

696
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.400
the very beginning told everybody it's gonna suck. Following me

697
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.000
isn't going to be the best. But I just do it.

698
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:26.880
At the end, you're going to be okay. I get

699
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.240
it now, right then. And it's so much like in

700
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.200
anything like if you pick up a new hobby or

701
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.559
a sport, or you start exercising, the beginning always sucks,

702
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.279
and then it hurts, and then and all this and

703
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.640
it doesn't always get better, but you can sure feel

704
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.720
the results afterwards.

705
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.880
That's true. That's a good analogy. Like when you're working

706
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.240
out and you're trying to build up your body. You know,

707
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:48.759
if you're trying to build up your spirit, it's the

708
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.279
same thing. God's trying to build up our spirit. Yeah,

709
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.559
when we're trying to build up our body, exercising sucks.

710
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.240
You might have to eat better, get up early. But

711
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.480
after you know, some time you look, you look and like, wow,

712
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.920
I'm stronger and I can lift more, and I feel

713
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.359
good about the way I look and Yeah, that's what's up.

714
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.640
That's how your spirit should be too, right.

715
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:11.680
Right, Oh, it is nice to that. Like you said,

716
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.319
you get stronger, you can walk through more difficult things

717
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.039
with a little bit more grace. And that's that's all

718
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.079
I'm hoping for these days. A little bit more grace.

719
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.559
We'll see. The key is you need to quit being

720
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.960
your type a personality, admit that you're just kind of

721
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.279
go at it and play it by air, and got

722
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.240
to leave you alone.

723
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.920
Get back into my more free spirited, free flowing kind

724
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.680
of I used to be that way. That I mean. Actually,

725
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.480
I told you how my friend from Texas came to

726
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.279
town a couple of weeks ago. When we were talking

727
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.559
about you know, before cell phones, before there were you know,

728
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.200
GPS's on our phone that got us everywhere we wanted

729
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.440
to go. We we had driven up here together from

730
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.960
Texas and we were dying laughing. Of course we were

731
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.119
drinking too, but we were like, We're like, we came

732
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.680
to Nashville with like barely any money and a map.

733
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.720
Like I don't even know how we got here, Like

734
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.279
she goes, we had a map. She's like, remember we

735
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.400
had to kept pulling the car over and like, you know,

736
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.839
getting the map out and looking at it, like, but

737
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.160
we got here and then we stayed with some friends,

738
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.559
and I know we were so free spirited. I mean,

739
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.880
it's easier to do that when you're young, too. I

740
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:19.640
envy the young.

741
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.240
I bet you couldn't fold that map, could you could?

742
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.119
I don't even know if I could read a map anymore.

743
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:27.480
We're so dependent on our phones.

744
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.799
It'd be kind of funny to give somebody, anybody probably

745
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.640
under thirty or under forty. So here's a map, open

746
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.799
it up, Okay, now'll fold it right.

747
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.759
There's one reason I love our theme song, because that's

748
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.480
why I wrote that line. And the phone says, there's

749
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.519
no app for that today. It's like this generation doesn't

750
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.480
know what to do if there's not an app for what?

751
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:48.720
How do you do? What do you do?

752
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.440
And for you listeners? Yeah, that was her song. That

753
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:52.160
was her on there.

754
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.200
Yeah, I was actually the second one singing. So I

755
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.279
have to give Mindy, my friend Mindy Michael, credit for

756
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:58.279
the first voice on there.

757
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.079
But you can't tell because they're two blonde girls.

758
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.359
And we are too blonde girls. Mindy's doing good. Shout

759
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.680
out to Mendy. She's back in Ohio and she's a

760
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.599
social worker and she's taken care of people that really need,

761
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:13.519
really need some help. She's a good girl.

762
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.159
So, so, do you have anything that you want to

763
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:19.199
talk about on the next show that comes to your

764
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.159
header and just kind of let the spirit hit us.

765
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.079
I guess let the spirit hit us, because every time

766
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:24.800
we say we're going to talk about a topic the

767
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.239
night before, I usually end up being milling you going, hey,

768
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.920
I woke up thinking about this, and you're like, yeah,

769
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.360
I did. So It's like God always changes our plans.

770
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.800
I guess that's another reason we shouldn't be too tape

771
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.039
a and order all of our because it says, you

772
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.400
know what does he say he laughs at man's you

773
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.760
know what's that verse? He laughs at your plans?

774
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.599
Basically yeah, and it's again, I mean I don't remember

775
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.599
a famous comedian. He goes, you're going to make God laugh?

776
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.280
Tell him your plans.

777
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.039
Exactly. Yeah. So you know, maybe that's the theme of

778
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:01.599
these times is uh, every day flow with the Holy Spirit.

779
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:06.039
I don't think any of us can really predict these times, right.

780
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.760
And we want to thank you all for listening today

781
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.920
catching another episode of These Days of Jeff and Steph

782
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:11.360
and

783
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.039
Until next time, just remember we are all in it together.