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Well, hi, and welcome to these days. I am Jeff,
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and I have an awesome coz as you guys know,
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your name is Stephanie. She'll be joining us in a minute.
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So we're here to talk to you about from a
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Catholic perspective. We're going to talk about Bible history and
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mysticism all that, steph How our things going out there
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in the volunteer State and going good?
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Jeff, it's hot and humid as usual. You walk outside
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and you've got glasses or sunglasses on there immediately fogged up.
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But we're getting through it. Last days of summer, right,
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How are things and buyers?
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Oh Colorado? Well, last time we talked it was all
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kind of cold and rainy, but now we're back up
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to the mid nineties and all this. The thing is
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the western part of Colorado, it's all burning. There's forest
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fire is really they have one of the fifth biggest
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first fire in Colorado history burning out there right a
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little town called Meeker. And as all the hell they're
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going through over there, we have had the most beautiful sunsets,
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all that smoke and everything. As the sun's coming, as
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the sun's going down behind the mountains, you just all
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different kinds of colors and especially red and all that.
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So I don't know, maybe there is a shining light
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and all the with all those people on the West
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slopes suffering with it.
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Yeah, that's kind of.
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Like the theme of our show today, right, How even
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in the midst of trials and tribulations, there's always some
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kind of beauty or comfort or something that God supplies, right.
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Yeah, He doesn't just leave me out there all the time.
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And U think what got when I kind of brought
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up today's stam. You know, it's kind of amazing how
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God he'll talk to you, ask him questions. You don't
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have to be in the church on your knees, you know,
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praying hard and all that kind of stuff. It's amazing
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how he'll just talk to you, like I got. I
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was listening to the radio other day and this song
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came on and say, up all the straight and manroad
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when you don't know where you are, to use the
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needle of your.
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Comforts to sew up your broken heart. The rest directions
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from a genie and a bottle of.
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Gim beament, do you wam you learn the truth?
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You're going through hell? Sheep boll go bll slowed down
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after skinned no, show you mine more than ever even know.
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That.
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Sure, it's kind of a pop little country here, but
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to me it spoke to me. It kind of let
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me know that, you know, God's not always going to
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solve your problems, but he's you're going to give you
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peace as you're going through the Yeah.
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Exactly, Yeah, I love what you said that it doesn't
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have to be on your knees at church to hear
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guidance or direction. My my best friend I grew up
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with in Texas surprised me and came into town last
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weekend and just to prove your point, Like, she doesn't
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go to church, she wouldn't really consider herself religious, but
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she literally said something to me that I don't think.
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You know, ten years of therapy wouldn't have been as good.
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She said.
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She was like, well, you know, sometimes when God wants
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you to go through a door, if you're a hesitant
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or you're not really getting the message, or you're not
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willing to walk through it, sometimes he has to push
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you through it, right, And I was like, wow, that's
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pretty why some profound.
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Not only push something, they kicks you in the butt too.
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Sometimes he pushes you pretty hard through, don't it's.
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Gonna well, I guess I'm going this.
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Way, yeah exactly.
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But he I think, well, like that song said, you're
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not gonna find your answers in the battle of gymbing.
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But if you're if you're asking God and you're turning
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to God and you're open, he will guide you.
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And you're right.
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It can come through a song, it can come through
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a person reading the scripture, of course, but nature, yeah,
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I mean, you just got to be open, keep your
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eyes open right, and be aware, keep your heart open.
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And what I think what really kind of got me is,
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you know, it's just a catchy country song, you know,
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try and get a good hook in so that the
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people want to sing one something on that. But you think,
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right before the hook, right there, he says, when you
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when you stray off the net straight and narrow, And
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that's kind of what I think. What kind of I
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you don't know the hook but I hadn't really paid
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much attention. Is when you stray off the straight and narrow,
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you know, then that's kind of when you need God to.
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Boast right and he always he seems to work the
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best with us in our broken brokenness or in our despair.
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Sometimes I really think he does strip everything away that
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we might get comfort or security in just to remind
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us that, hey, I put me first and I will.
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Come through for you.
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Right.
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He doesn't leave us hanging.
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No, he doesn't do that, not at all, and that
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it feels like it sometimes though, I mean, I think
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everybody's kind of Hey, you know, Jesus said, all I
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have to do is ask what's going on?
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I'm asking, right, And sometimes we like expect the immediate
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result and it's not. Well, I'll give you a personal story.
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I've been kind of in that situation now. But I'm
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going to tell you a story from the past, because sometimes,
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you know, hindsight's twenty twenty. We can really see how
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he worked when we look back at our life, even
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more so than what we're going through right now. But
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there was a time when I first moved here and
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I had gotten a job as an apartment leasing person,
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my first job here in leasing.
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And when I first moved here, I was.
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Living with a girl named Tammy, and she was married
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to the drummer of Ricochet. I don't know if you
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remember Ricochet. They were a country band. I was there
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through the beginning of them getting signed with Sony Records
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and in the studio when they recorded their album at
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their at their release party, it was kind of cool
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to move here as a songwriter and just immediately God
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had me in that environment. And Tammy and Jeff both
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really nice people. They had a town home. I had
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the upstairs, they had the downstairs.
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But you know, as the music.
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Industry goes and how life is hard, they found theirself
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going through a divorce. So I just realized there's two
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ways God brought comfort in this situation. Because I had
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gotten this job at the apartments, Tammy and I, even
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though she was going through obviously a very difficult time
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going through a divorce, we were able to move into
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a two bedroom and that kind of just worked out
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and flowed effortlessly.
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So we moved. We get out of the townhome, move into.
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This two bedroom apartment, and she's getting her degree in
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music business at Belmont. We're living there. I'm working there.
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I had met a French family that kind of took
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me in because I was really missing home and missing
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my family. So they had lost the father of the family.
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It was a mom, but she cooked and a son
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and a daughter, So I become like I became part
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of their family. That I went over there for dinner
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I think every night, and she had a little glass
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of wine and would cook very simple but very comforting meals.
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And so God was providing me comfort while I was
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missing my family. He provided us a place to live.
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He was providing obviously income and a place for Tammy
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to heal from her divorce and get through school. And
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then lo and behold. As it turned out, the manager
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of my job, she was going through a divorce.
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Now I get how devastating that is.
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So she wasn't showing up for work a lot, and
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that was really just too much stress on the assistant manager, who,
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you know, one day I called in sick. I was
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really sick. I wasn't faking it or anything like. I'm
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a hard worker.
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I've never called in.
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Sick just to you know, take some time off. But
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so the assistant manager just like totally went off on me.
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She was just stressed because everything was kind of falling
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on her with the manager not showing up. And I
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get it now, like she just kind of went off
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on me. And you know, being twenty two at the time,
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I went off on her back, and I was like,
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I can't work here.
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I quit.
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So I quit my job a month before Christmas, get
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us kicked out of our apartment. And God was reminding
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me of this as I'm going through this season in
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my life right now, which is in pretty rough and
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pretty bare, like the wilderness season. I guess they call
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it so here. I am twenty two. My roommate's kind
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of counting on me for a place to live. She's
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going through divorce. I get us kicked out of our
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apartment at Christmas. We have thirty days to get out,
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and I don't have a job, and it's Christmas. And
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by the end of the day, and God doesn't always
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show up this quickly, but raise be to God that
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he did this. She was also managing the doctor's office,
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and so she was pretty upset with me, obviously, But
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by the end of the day she called me and
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she was like, well, her exact words, this is pretty funny.
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This is how comical I think God has a since humor.
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Her exact words were, I know you don't like kids,
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But Nancy showed up at work in tears today. Nancy
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was the doctor's wife, and she was like, Nancy shows
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up in tears because her nanny's in jail and she
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needs a nanny. And I know you don't like kids,
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but you need a job. Do you want to do
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this at least until you find something. And I was like, yeah, sure,
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and of course I do like kids now, But I
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was twenty two. I was young and you know, stupid
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at the time, so I didn't even go a whole
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day without a job. The next Nancy said, come to
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the house in the morning, and so I go to
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the house and this.
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Is just the beauty of God.
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I get there and she was like kind of motioned
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for me to come on in. You know, it was
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in November. The beautiful I remember, like, this house was
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a beautiful mansion and the orange and gold leaves were
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all over the porch, and she was on the phone
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in the kitchen and kind of wait for me to
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come on in, said she'd be off in a minute.
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So I walk in and I see Chandler. Who's this
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little eight month old little girl wearing nothing but a diaper,
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and she had just pulled herself up on the coffee
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table Like this stands out in my mind really vivid,
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and she just gave me the biggest smile, and I
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felt like I'd known her my whole life, and it
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was just like obviously a divine destiny thing that.
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You know, God knows everything. He knew that I was
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going to lose my job at Chrismus, and he already.
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Had a plan, And like that's the thing. God already
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knows everything we're going to go through. He already has
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a plan for our good and for his glory. And
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I looked at Chandler and she smiled this great, big
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smile and just held her arms out to me for
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me to pick her up. And I pick her up
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and I walk it, picked her up like I've just
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known her my whole life. I felt so comfortable with
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this child from the beginning. I walk into the kitchen
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and Nancy gets off the phone and she was just like,
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are you kidding me? She says, she never lets anyone
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hold her, So you know, there's a God moment there.
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And long story short, what was supposed to be a
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temporary job. I was there for three and a half years.
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I became part of their family. Chandler was, you know,
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still is a very good friend of mine. She ended
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up getting cancer in her college years. She was supposed
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to die. It was a rare form of cancer. She'd
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beat it, and then once again, God shows up with
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his divine grace. She ends up going back to Belmont
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becoming an on collegey nurse. They told her she'd never
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have children because of the harsh treatment she had to
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go through. Now now she's a mom, she's she's a nurse,
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two children with cancer, and I.
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Mean, you can just see God all over.
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I mean, not only did he provide me a family
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and a job and a connection that's been a lifelong friend,
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and then look what he did in her life.