Aug. 13, 2025

Jeff & Steph talk about God growing your faith in different seasons in your life.

Jeff & Steph talk about God growing your faith in different seasons in your life.

Sometimes it doesn't feel like God is listening.  Jeff & Steph talked about how God is strenghting your faith when you don't feel it.  God opens and closes doors, you must accept it, and stop trying to go through the closed doors and enter through the open doors.  Just remain faithful, God is watching over you, he knows what he is doing.  Trust him, be obediant, and just keeps doing what is right and he will get you through every season in your life.

You can watch and listen to Stephanie on her YouTube channel - In the Service of the Queen - where she talks about the blessed Mary     https://www.youtube.com/@InTheServiceOfTheQueen

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Well, hi, and welcome to these days. I am Jeff,

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and I have an awesome coz as you guys know,

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your name is Stephanie. She'll be joining us in a minute.

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So we're here to talk to you about from a

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Catholic perspective. We're going to talk about Bible history and

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mysticism all that, steph How our things going out there

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in the volunteer State and going good?

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Jeff, it's hot and humid as usual. You walk outside

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and you've got glasses or sunglasses on there immediately fogged up.

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But we're getting through it. Last days of summer, right,

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How are things and buyers?

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Oh Colorado? Well, last time we talked it was all

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kind of cold and rainy, but now we're back up

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to the mid nineties and all this. The thing is

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the western part of Colorado, it's all burning. There's forest

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fire is really they have one of the fifth biggest

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first fire in Colorado history burning out there right a

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little town called Meeker. And as all the hell they're

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going through over there, we have had the most beautiful sunsets,

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all that smoke and everything. As the sun's coming, as

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the sun's going down behind the mountains, you just all

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different kinds of colors and especially red and all that.

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So I don't know, maybe there is a shining light

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and all the with all those people on the West

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slopes suffering with it.

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Yeah, that's kind of.

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Like the theme of our show today, right, How even

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in the midst of trials and tribulations, there's always some

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kind of beauty or comfort or something that God supplies, right.

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Yeah, He doesn't just leave me out there all the time.

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And U think what got when I kind of brought

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up today's stam. You know, it's kind of amazing how

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God he'll talk to you, ask him questions. You don't

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have to be in the church on your knees, you know,

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praying hard and all that kind of stuff. It's amazing

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how he'll just talk to you, like I got. I

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was listening to the radio other day and this song

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came on and say, up all the straight and manroad

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when you don't know where you are, to use the

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needle of your.

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Comforts to sew up your broken heart. The rest directions

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from a genie and a bottle of.

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Gim beament, do you wam you learn the truth?

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You're going through hell? Sheep boll go bll slowed down

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after skinned no, show you mine more than ever even know.

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That.

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Sure, it's kind of a pop little country here, but

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to me it spoke to me. It kind of let

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me know that, you know, God's not always going to

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solve your problems, but he's you're going to give you

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peace as you're going through the Yeah.

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Exactly, Yeah, I love what you said that it doesn't

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have to be on your knees at church to hear

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guidance or direction. My my best friend I grew up

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with in Texas surprised me and came into town last

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weekend and just to prove your point, Like, she doesn't

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go to church, she wouldn't really consider herself religious, but

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she literally said something to me that I don't think.

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You know, ten years of therapy wouldn't have been as good.

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She said.

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She was like, well, you know, sometimes when God wants

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you to go through a door, if you're a hesitant

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or you're not really getting the message, or you're not

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willing to walk through it, sometimes he has to push

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you through it, right, And I was like, wow, that's

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pretty why some profound.

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Not only push something, they kicks you in the butt too.

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Sometimes he pushes you pretty hard through, don't it's.

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Gonna well, I guess I'm going this.

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Way, yeah exactly.

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But he I think, well, like that song said, you're

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not gonna find your answers in the battle of gymbing.

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But if you're if you're asking God and you're turning

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to God and you're open, he will guide you.

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And you're right.

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It can come through a song, it can come through

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a person reading the scripture, of course, but nature, yeah,

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I mean, you just got to be open, keep your

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eyes open right, and be aware, keep your heart open.

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And what I think what really kind of got me is,

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you know, it's just a catchy country song, you know,

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try and get a good hook in so that the

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people want to sing one something on that. But you think,

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right before the hook, right there, he says, when you

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when you stray off the net straight and narrow, And

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that's kind of what I think. What kind of I

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you don't know the hook but I hadn't really paid

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much attention. Is when you stray off the straight and narrow,

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you know, then that's kind of when you need God to.

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Boast right and he always he seems to work the

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best with us in our broken brokenness or in our despair.

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Sometimes I really think he does strip everything away that

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we might get comfort or security in just to remind

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us that, hey, I put me first and I will.

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Come through for you.

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Right.

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He doesn't leave us hanging.

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No, he doesn't do that, not at all, and that

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it feels like it sometimes though, I mean, I think

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everybody's kind of Hey, you know, Jesus said, all I

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have to do is ask what's going on?

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I'm asking, right, And sometimes we like expect the immediate

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result and it's not. Well, I'll give you a personal story.

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I've been kind of in that situation now. But I'm

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going to tell you a story from the past, because sometimes,

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you know, hindsight's twenty twenty. We can really see how

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he worked when we look back at our life, even

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more so than what we're going through right now. But

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there was a time when I first moved here and

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I had gotten a job as an apartment leasing person,

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my first job here in leasing.

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And when I first moved here, I was.

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Living with a girl named Tammy, and she was married

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to the drummer of Ricochet. I don't know if you

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remember Ricochet. They were a country band. I was there

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through the beginning of them getting signed with Sony Records

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and in the studio when they recorded their album at

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their at their release party, it was kind of cool

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to move here as a songwriter and just immediately God

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had me in that environment. And Tammy and Jeff both

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really nice people. They had a town home. I had

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the upstairs, they had the downstairs.

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But you know, as the music.

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Industry goes and how life is hard, they found theirself

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going through a divorce. So I just realized there's two

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ways God brought comfort in this situation. Because I had

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gotten this job at the apartments, Tammy and I, even

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though she was going through obviously a very difficult time

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going through a divorce, we were able to move into

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a two bedroom and that kind of just worked out

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and flowed effortlessly.

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So we moved. We get out of the townhome, move into.

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This two bedroom apartment, and she's getting her degree in

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music business at Belmont. We're living there. I'm working there.

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I had met a French family that kind of took

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me in because I was really missing home and missing

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my family. So they had lost the father of the family.

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It was a mom, but she cooked and a son

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and a daughter, So I become like I became part

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of their family. That I went over there for dinner

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I think every night, and she had a little glass

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of wine and would cook very simple but very comforting meals.

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And so God was providing me comfort while I was

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missing my family. He provided us a place to live.

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He was providing obviously income and a place for Tammy

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to heal from her divorce and get through school. And

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then lo and behold. As it turned out, the manager

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of my job, she was going through a divorce.

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Now I get how devastating that is.

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So she wasn't showing up for work a lot, and

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that was really just too much stress on the assistant manager, who,

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you know, one day I called in sick. I was

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really sick. I wasn't faking it or anything like. I'm

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a hard worker.

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I've never called in.

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Sick just to you know, take some time off. But

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so the assistant manager just like totally went off on me.

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She was just stressed because everything was kind of falling

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on her with the manager not showing up. And I

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get it now, like she just kind of went off

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on me. And you know, being twenty two at the time,

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I went off on her back, and I was like,

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I can't work here.

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I quit.

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So I quit my job a month before Christmas, get

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us kicked out of our apartment. And God was reminding

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me of this as I'm going through this season in

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my life right now, which is in pretty rough and

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pretty bare, like the wilderness season. I guess they call

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it so here. I am twenty two. My roommate's kind

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of counting on me for a place to live. She's

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going through divorce. I get us kicked out of our

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apartment at Christmas. We have thirty days to get out,

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and I don't have a job, and it's Christmas. And

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by the end of the day, and God doesn't always

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show up this quickly, but raise be to God that

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he did this. She was also managing the doctor's office,

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and so she was pretty upset with me, obviously, But

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by the end of the day she called me and

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she was like, well, her exact words, this is pretty funny.

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This is how comical I think God has a since humor.

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Her exact words were, I know you don't like kids,

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But Nancy showed up at work in tears today. Nancy

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was the doctor's wife, and she was like, Nancy shows

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up in tears because her nanny's in jail and she

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needs a nanny. And I know you don't like kids,

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but you need a job. Do you want to do

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this at least until you find something. And I was like, yeah, sure,

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and of course I do like kids now, But I

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was twenty two. I was young and you know, stupid

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at the time, so I didn't even go a whole

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day without a job. The next Nancy said, come to

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the house in the morning, and so I go to

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the house and this.

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I get there and she was like kind of motioned

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for me to come on in. You know, it was

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in November. The beautiful I remember, like, this house was

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a beautiful mansion and the orange and gold leaves were

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all over the porch, and she was on the phone

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in the kitchen and kind of wait for me to

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come on in, said she'd be off in a minute.

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So I walk in and I see Chandler. Who's this

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little eight month old little girl wearing nothing but a diaper,

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and she had just pulled herself up on the coffee

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table Like this stands out in my mind really vivid,

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and she just gave me the biggest smile, and I

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felt like I'd known her my whole life, and it

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was just like obviously a divine destiny thing that.

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You know, God knows everything. He knew that I was

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going to lose my job at Chrismus, and he already.

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Had a plan, And like that's the thing. God already

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knows everything we're going to go through. He already has

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a plan for our good and for his glory. And

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I looked at Chandler and she smiled this great, big

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smile and just held her arms out to me for

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me to pick her up. And I pick her up

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and I walk it, picked her up like I've just

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known her my whole life. I felt so comfortable with

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this child from the beginning. I walk into the kitchen

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and Nancy gets off the phone and she was just like,

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are you kidding me? She says, she never lets anyone

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hold her, So you know, there's a God moment there.

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And long story short, what was supposed to be a

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temporary job. I was there for three and a half years.

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I became part of their family. Chandler was, you know,

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still is a very good friend of mine. She ended

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up getting cancer in her college years. She was supposed

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to die. It was a rare form of cancer. She'd

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beat it, and then once again, God shows up with

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his divine grace. She ends up going back to Belmont

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becoming an on collegey nurse. They told her she'd never

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have children because of the harsh treatment she had to

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go through. Now now she's a mom, she's she's a nurse,

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two children with cancer, and I.

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Mean, you can just see God all over.

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and a job and a connection that's been a lifelong friend,

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and then look what he did in her life.

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It's just it just goes on and on.

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Yeah, that is pretty, That is really cool. You can

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definitely tell that's the whole thing. Like you said, you

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look back at that time, it didn't make any sense

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to you at all. This isn't working at all, and

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then oh okay, I got everything out of it.

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Exactly Like he can turn the worst moments into the

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best moments. And it's the place I just want to

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encourage everybody that's going through a difficult time right now.

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You know, don't forget that God is going to show up.

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Even though it looks dark, it might look awful, He's faithful,

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He's going to show up.

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He has a plan.

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We've talked about this before, but I think one big

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thing too is you have to keep yourself open because

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lots of times God will offer some for you, and

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if you're not paying attention and not looking for it,

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a little go to school right on past you and

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you'll miss the opportunity that He was sending you to.

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Yeah, that's a good point because I could have said, yeah,

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you're right, I don't like kids, I don't want to.

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Do that job. Yeah I could.

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Yeah, I was like humbled. I think that's a huge thing.

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And I think that's a lot of the reason why

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God allows for us to go through a lot of

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the things we go through is to humble us, because

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He really can't work with us at all.

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Right, if we're not.

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Humble, well, not that I mean you just in your

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own personal life, like I work and all that kind

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of stuff. If somebody who's full of themselves, you can't

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work with them, and it's just you can't do it.

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You can't talk to them, they can never see where

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they're wrong. And you know, like I feel like that's

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been the last three years of my life. As God

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has been humbling me to really focus on myself and

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not not look.

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At other people.

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It's so easy to look at other people and be like, oh,

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what their law or they're doing this wrong, But when

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you look it's actually so much more peaceful when you

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look at yourself, because you can't control other people.

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No, you can't change other people, but well you can

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change is yourself. And if you can just stick.

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With God every day and you know, like I think

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I mentioned to the scripture that keeps coming up to

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me every time I'm opened the Bible is be still

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and know that I'm God, And.

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That's He's talked to me. So much more.

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It's more, it's a lot deeper than just you know,

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be still and God's going to come to the rescue.

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You know He's going to show up for you.

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It's really like when you're in that really still place

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and you're just I don't know, when you're just like

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I think, I don't know for me, like it's just

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like knowing that you really don't need anything but God

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and everything else does get added to you. When when

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you're only like in that still place, only seeking God

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and trying to be humble and look at your own

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faults and take responsibility and just ask God, you know,

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what do you want me to do today? What do

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you want me to do right now? Like I'm here,

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you know, I'm here, I'm listening.

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What do you what do you want from me?

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You know?

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I think I think I'm like a lot of people

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that all humble myself and ask God, you know, what

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do you want? And all this kind of stuff in

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my life starts going in a certain direction and I'm

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not humbled enough. I don't have the humility where I'm

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I don't want to go in this direction, so I

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kind of of course screw everything up, and it's kind

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of like going, well, you know, I should have should

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have just kept going that way exactly.

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We do that.

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We're human and that's part of I think our human brokenness,

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our original sin or whatever.

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But like as soon as life.

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Starts going good, it's just like a default setting to

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start getting full of ourselves thinking we don't need God

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running off in the wrong direction instead of like stay

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is so hard to stay in that place where you

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know you're constantly seeking his will.

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I guess, yeah, And it's kind of like I'm not

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saying they would have been lifelong nates or anything, or

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husband their wives or anything. But when you look back

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at like we we're like in high school and right

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out of high school and all that, you might have

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the most perfect Like for me, it would be a

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girl who got she was just everything right, but she

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just didn't seem to check what I thought was the

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right boxes. And you look back and he right, you know,

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she would have probably been pretty good. You'd have been

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better than I was with after that, right, right?

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Hindsight's twenty twenty, isn't it.

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Yeah, that's the only thing I heard. A pretty good quote.

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Life is the only place where you have to take

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the test before you get to study.

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Yeah, that's it, that's true. I have.

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That just reminds me of a recurring dream I have.

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I haven't had it in a long time, thank god,

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but I think it. I think I have it during

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these times when I'm like scared and feeling unprepared. But

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it's like I'm going to play and I show up

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on stage and I don't realize until I'm in front

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of all the people that nobody ever gave me the script.

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I don't know what to say, I don't know what

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to do.

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No that's it. That's just like life. You they say,

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here's your test. Okay, now we'll give you the study

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of the material afterwards.

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Right totally, Okay. You know God does show those little signs.

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I mean there's just like been so many little signs

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in my life recently that you have to have discernment

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because the enemy is going to throw stuff in there too,

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So you do have to pray for discernment. And I

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think a good prayer is always like keep whatever door

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shut that you don't want me to walk through, and

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open the doors that you do want me to walk through.

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But yeah, there's like little things like somebody will show

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up that you haven't talked to and forever that you

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don't normally talk to, and they have that exact message

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that's hopeful and encouraging, and you know.

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It's from God.

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You just feel it when it hits you know, like

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it was hopeful, it was encouraging, it was exactly what

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you needed to hear it, and it was kind of

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out of the blue, and then you kind of, I

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don't know, those those are cool little God moments.

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Yeah, and he I actually worked the opposite way of

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what you said about because I actually not too long ago.

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I actually connected with somebody that I hadn't seen or

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talked to in about fifteen years, and all of a sudden,

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the next thing I knew, I was like, going, now,

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I know I haven't talked to him in fifteen years.

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That's true.

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Such a drag trying to drag you down. You know,

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one of those people that automatically everything goes back to them.

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You know, it's right, I'll ask you how you doing well,

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I'm doing okay, Well I'm not here, you know, and

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everything they do drags you down and all that kind

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of stuff, and it's kind of like, well, I'm glad

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you're doing good, but I know why I'm not going

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to talk to you for another fifteen years exactly.

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And actually it's part of that discernment because when I

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say that girl called me that I hadn't talked to

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that I grew up with, she had that message I

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needed to hear that. And this is different from the

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girl I saw last weekend that actually came to town.

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But you know, the one that just called me and

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had the message I needed to hear. She calls like

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two months later and was just negative and accusing and blaming,

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and I called you, I left your message, you didn't

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call me back.

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I mean, she was just and I had the exact

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same reaction, like, yeah, I know, I don't talk to

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you all the time.

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But that just goes to show when God wants to

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get a message through, he can work.

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Through anyone though, right, even even somebody that may.

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Not see where you're not going to go like this, right, see,

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I'm showing you where to go, but this is why

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you don't want to go back that way exactly. You

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could telling me the other day about a psalm. It

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seems like I don't know if you have like a

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bookmark there, but every time you open your Bible, you

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actually open to it.

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Which one was it?

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It was like some forty six or something like that.

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I don't remember.

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Yeah, that's the still and know that I'm gone, yeah,

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and it's you know, after I read it, and I

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keep getting it from different sources, like someone will say

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it to me, I'll see it somewhere.

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Like keeps like reiterating it.

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So you do. And I think that's one thing people

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need to know. God loves to confirm his word. He's

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not a god of confusion. So if he really is

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trying to give you a message, he will confirm it

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if you're open and paying attention multiple ways. And after

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I read it last night, I did it again, opened

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up the Bible. I pray, well, I prayed first, what

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do you want me to know?

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And I opened up to Psalm forty six and something, for.

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Some reason, it was like I heard my guardian angel,

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or maybe it was the Holy Spirit. I had thought, well,

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this is you know, in the Bible several times it

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says several times I think that to be still, know

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that I'm God. And that voice challenged me and said,

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we'll google it. See how many times this.

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Exact word is in the Bible. And I googled it

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and it's only in Psalm forty six. As famous as

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that that is, there's nowhere else in the Bible.

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And I open it up to that page all the time,

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and there's nowhere else in the Bible that says be

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still and know that I'm God. There are other scriptures

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that say something similar, maybe like stand still and see

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the saving power of God, or you know, something like that,

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but only.

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In Soul in forty six does it say be still

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and know that I Am God.

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So when you open it up, does it freaky out

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that it always open as or more comforting and reassuring

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that you're opening up to it.

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It's comforting and reassuring. Like I said, my life is

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pretty mystical. I do tend to I tend to sense

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God's what he's saying to me.

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Pretty you know.

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I went back last night and looked through all my dreams.

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I've been keeping like a dream journal, and it's amazing

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how many dreams I have had that have come to pass.

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One came to pass just a few days ago, and

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I had dreamt it a year ago to the date.

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That's what's freaky when you look at a dream and

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then it comes to pass a year ago to the date.

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So a lot of times, you know.

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God will give me dreams that and I know not

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everybody relates to that. Not everybody is a prophetic dreamer.

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Maybe why I feel close to Saint Joseph because he

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was a prophetic dreamer. But yeah, I mean a lot

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of times God is always affirming things to me in

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my dreams, so I kind of expect him to. What's

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the not normal for me is when I'm asking questions

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and I'm not getting answers. That's the part that feels

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really uncomfortable to me because I'm so used to getting the.

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Answers right then are you not getting the answers or

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you're not recognizing the answers.

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I think sometimes, even especially through this past season, he's

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been silent at times because he's trying to grow my faith.

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That is the answer that I've gotten, is that when

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he's silent, he is growing my faith and he's wanting

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me to And you know, the Saints wrote about this.

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There were times when they felt God, like God completely

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withdrew his presence from them and they didn't have any consolation.

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And I think in those moments, he really.

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Is challenging our faith to say, can you still believe

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in me? Are you still going to trust that I'm

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going to do what I said I'm going to do

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and I'm going to fulfill my promises and I'm faithful

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even when you know I'm not. You're not really you

481
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don't feel my presence today or you don't you're not

482
00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:53.880
getting any answers from me today.

483
00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:56.039
No, I agree with you. And that's the hardest season

484
00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:56.559
to be into.

485
00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:01.160
Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a test of faith.

486
00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.039
It is definitely a test of faith, just over the

487
00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.079
last couple of days, I think I've reached a place

488
00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.759
of maybe the next level of peace, being at peace

489
00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.319
because I've been This is like a three year journey

490
00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:13.519
for me.

491
00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:15.200
My faith has really been tested.

492
00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.960
But finally he gave me that consolation of like a

493
00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.480
really deep piece of where I don't know exactly how

494
00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:24.160
it's going to unfold or how my future is going

495
00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.960
to play out. And that's another thing my friend Misty said,

496
00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.480
who came from Texas. She said, well, you know, God

497
00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:31.359
doesn't show us the whole picture, because if he did,

498
00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:33.640
first of all, we'd start trying to control it and

499
00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:35.400
change it, or we'd be scared.

500
00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.160
You'd be things we'd see that we didn't.

501
00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.160
Want to know, right, But just to live in the

502
00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:42.559
moment each day and trust him that whatever happens or

503
00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:44.559
whatever he brings before us is his will.

504
00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.160
And you know one thing that you just said about

505
00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.359
that is basically what jesus whole ministry was on. I mean,

506
00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.359
he was basically saying that's going to suck. You're going

507
00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.440
to be persecuted, You're going to have those and I

508
00:20:57.480 --> 00:20:59.400
can't help you with that. But what I can help

509
00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:01.039
you with is I'm going to you peace then, you know,

510
00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:01.720
and they help you.

511
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.000
Through it exactly and he does. Yeah, he gives us

512
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.559
through it. And it reminds me of the Scripture of

513
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.240
I can't remember their names. I've been to go me

514
00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:10.440
Shak and there.

515
00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:11.880
Was like a third one. Do you know that? You

516
00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:13.519
know what the third god's name was?

517
00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:15.160
No, not right off the end.

518
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.240
Anyway, they were putting the fire right. He even gave

519
00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:20.359
me a dream to confirm this. But like you know,

520
00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.640
in Jesus with there were three people in the fire,

521
00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:27.000
but they then they saw four because he was with them.

522
00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:31.960
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty those stories are kind of you know, honestly,

523
00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.759
I think I have pretty strong faith, but I don't

524
00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.240
we're not because I think we've talked about it before.

525
00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:39.759
I try and like put myself in a different kind

526
00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:41.599
of I know, we're not supposed to we're all supposed

527
00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:43.480
to run her own race and all that kind of stuff.

528
00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.519
But sometimes I try and put myself into a situation

529
00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:48.839
think could I have done that? And it's like going,

530
00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:51.799
you know, like David and the Lion or be shoking

531
00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:54.400
to grow and I don't remember go into the furnace,

532
00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:56.680
you know what? Have I had the faith that you know,

533
00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:58.799
to do that night, and most of the time I couldn't.

534
00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.759
I don't think I would have.

535
00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.559
Yeah, but God knows, you know, he knows us, and

536
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.240
he knows what trials are perfect for us, because you know,

537
00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:07.599
you took care of your mom for how many years?

538
00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.400
Well, the last one year was just solid a couple

539
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:11.799
of years.

540
00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.480
Yeah, and I think that's something that I couldn't have done.

541
00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.640
Like I do know, when you're taking care of a

542
00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:19.000
loved one and you're watching them decline, that is an

543
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:22.759
excruciating pain. And then your whole life changes, and you know,

544
00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.799
there's like your schedule changes, everything revolves around taking care

545
00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.359
of them, and then you're working your whole life. You

546
00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:31.359
still have to make money, you stop a job, whatever,

547
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.559
and then you're kind of reorganizing your schedule around that.

548
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.039
And then you're also dealing with the emotional part of

549
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.920
seeing someone you love and knowing that their time's coming up.

550
00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:42.599
So you know, like, I look at your journey and

551
00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.279
the things God has put you through, and I'm sure

552
00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:47.920
you felt his presence with you, and I'm like, wow,

553
00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:49.440
I don't think I could have gotten through that.

554
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:51.000
My parents actually.

555
00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:54.440
Died fairly quick, which God knows my weaknesses. I don't

556
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:55.880
think I could have done what you did, and so

557
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.880
like keep God's like, all right, so I'm going to

558
00:22:57.960 --> 00:22:59.720
take your parents out pretty quick. They're going to go

559
00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.920
six weeks apart. And you know, it was pretty fast,

560
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:07.400
but that was its own kind of hard harshness. But yeah,

561
00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:09.359
I guess he just knows, he knows what.

562
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:09.920
We can handle.

563
00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:14.000
This is going to sound really goofy, but during the day,

564
00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.200
basically for retirees and all that kind of stuff, they're

565
00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:20.559
stations that just played like TV shows, like old westerns

566
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:22.000
and that kind of stuff, you know, and you can

567
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.799
tell from you can tell from the commercials it's they're

568
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:26.559
made for the retirees.

569
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:26.839
You know.

570
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.599
They're all AARP ads and they're all life insurance ads,

571
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.839
and they are all ads for wanting money, and a

572
00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:35.440
lot you see a lot of those from like Danny

573
00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.119
Thomas's hospital or the Shriners and all that kind of stuff.

574
00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.319
We'd walk. You know, it was a day of like,

575
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.599
oh man, I'm kind of tired. And you know, it's

576
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:45.559
like you think about it and you watch her and

577
00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:47.599
you don't even think she's really paying any attention to

578
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.119
it or knows what's going on. On the TV. She

579
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.599
had dementia, and you don't know what she even knows,

580
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.720
but that she seems to okay whatever she likes the

581
00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:58.680
screen or whatever. Whenever they'd have one of those commercials

582
00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:01.440
for like Children's Hospital or the Shriners and those kids

583
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:02.920
would come on, she would sit there and wave with

584
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.359
those little kids, you know, and all that kind of stuff,

585
00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:07.160
and so that would kind of get my attention. I'd

586
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.079
watch those commercials, those parents going through all that horrible

587
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:13.119
stuff with their kids, and the cancers and the deformities

588
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.119
and all that kind of stuff, and honestly, in my mind,

589
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:16.599
I was kind of when I'm going through with her,

590
00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:18.839
to me, what those parents are going through with those

591
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.440
kids was nothing. So whenever I kind of felt, you know,

592
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.640
I guess selfish that man, why do I have to

593
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.759
do this? I would think of those parents going through

594
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:27.759
that with their kids, and I thought, this isn't nothing

595
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:29.480
compared to that, right.

596
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.559
And that's yeah, that reminds me. And it just goes

597
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.680
to show back to our theme of our God is

598
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.440
in control. He's there, he's he has a plan, he already.

599
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.000
Knows what you're going to go through. The last three days.

600
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:41.799
In my mom's life.

601
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.240
I did fly to Texas and she was in ICU

602
00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:47.279
and she died of COPD. So she had a breathing

603
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.000
tube down her throat and she, you know, like it

604
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.160
was like the day they decided that they were going

605
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.000
to take the breathing tube out, and she was uncont

606
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:58.240
from She was conscious the whole time I was there

607
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:00.759
till that day, and then that day she was not

608
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.200
conscious and the doctors basically had to pull me and

609
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.359
my dad into a room. It was so horrible watching

610
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.319
him go through that of them saying, we're going to

611
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.160
take the breathing to you bout and she's there's no

612
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.599
hope for her to recover and let her die in

613
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.240
natural death, right, So they did that, and then I

614
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.759
was in the room and like I said, she had

615
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.839
not been conscious conscious all day, never did regain consciousness

616
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:22.640
before she died.

617
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.200
But the moment my dad walked in and you couldn't

618
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:26.279
hear there was not a sound.

619
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:28.680
I mean, I remember I saw him walk in, but

620
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.920
he didn't make a sound. He walked in and sat

621
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:34.079
down in the chair across from her bed. She sits

622
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.319
straight up, opens her eyes, waves just this.

623
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.440
Little flick of her hand like seea. And there was

624
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.160
nothing sad about it. I mean, there was almost like.

625
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.599
A I don't even know what it wasn't joyful, but

626
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:48.039
it was a non sad moment, That's.

627
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:48.680
All I can say.

628
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.599
But she was kind of like seea, like matter of fact,

629
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.480
see Ya lays back down, closes her eyes and never

630
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:56.480
opened him again, and died at five point fifty five

631
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:57.200
the next morning.

632
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:02.720
Man, well, I guess you guys, I guess so they know.

633
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:05.119
Like you know, people know, and in God's grace, like

634
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.960
he maybe God's grace was that he gave my mom

635
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.079
that one last opportunity and gave my dad that last

636
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.119
opportunity for her to say goodbye. And yeah, it's I mean,

637
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.720
we can't even fathom. We can't even fathom God really

638
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.319
hard with our small, little, puny human minds. I know.

639
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.880
It's kind of funny because like when you talk about

640
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.480
your dreams and all that they mean stuff, and if

641
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:30.480
I wrote down tried to write down what I dreamed,

642
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:31.759
and it's so out there.

643
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:35.960
Well you have to have to sort of like I've

644
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.759
learned over the years how to interpret my dreams. It's

645
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.119
taken some time. Sometimes my dreams are very literal and

646
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.119
it's not hard to interpret them at all, but then

647
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.920
sometimes they're pretty symbolic and it does take a little,

648
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.720
you know, a little bit of time sitting with God saying, Okay,

649
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.240
what does this represent? You know, like I've come to

650
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.680
represent anytime I'm seeing myself or someone in a shower,

651
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.880
that means you're going through a cleansing process or somebody

652
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:02.559
washing their hair. It's like a cleansing of the mind,

653
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.880
getting where there might have been mental confusion. They're coming

654
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.880
out of mental confusion and the mind getting clear. You know.

655
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.720
That kind of stuff is what God's taught me how.

656
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:14.440
To interpret my dreams. But yeah, I love dreaming. I

657
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:16.480
feel like I'm clocking in for work at night. When

658
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.640
I go to sleep, I'm like, all right, I'm on

659
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.960
the time clock. You know, this is where I figured

660
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:21.680
out my life.

661
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:23.599
God, what do you got for me?

662
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.240
Yeah? Well, I think you're unique, though I don't think.

663
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:28.839
I don't think everybody has that discernment on that kind

664
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.279
of stuff, because otherwise, why was Josephi on the one

665
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.079
who could interpret that Pharaoh's dream? And I think there's

666
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.119
just certain people who actually get it of it right,

667
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.920
synapses that snap, and I don't know, how do you explain.

668
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:40.680
It right now?

669
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.079
I mean, I do think it's a gift, and he

670
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.519
gives us all different gifts. But I do know you

671
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.119
can pray. And one of the things she promises when

672
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.039
you have a devotion to this what's cool about being Catholic.

673
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:54.000
We have a devotion to Mary under the title of

674
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.519
Our Lady of Sorrows, and you pray the Sorrowful Rosary.

675
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.400
One of the things she promises to you is that

676
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.279
she will reveal the hidden things. So when I really

677
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:06.480
am struggling to try to get a direction or clarity

678
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.000
in my life, I will before I go to bed,

679
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.920
I'll ask the Sorrowful Mother, please reveal to me anything

680
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:13.359
hidden that I'm.

681
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.359
Not seeing that God wants me to know and make

682
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:16.359
it clear in a dream.

683
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:18.119
And when I say that, man, I tell you I

684
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.319
do have very clear dreams, and it's usually something I

685
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.440
did not know or did not see, and then it

686
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:24.640
has always turned out.

687
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:25.079
To be accurate.

688
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.160
Well, that's good advice for all of love. I think

689
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.480
we know what to do to interpret our dreams. Now, yeah, I.

690
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.039
Ask the Sorrowful Mother, and you know, have a devotion

691
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.640
to her, And you know, I've even heard you know,

692
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:36.240
she's so gracious.

693
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.839
Of course, she's filled with humility and just loves God

694
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:40.880
and wants to help us all. She loves her children.

695
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.559
But you know, sometimes I don't pray a whole being

696
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.319
lazy and being a you know, human, sometimes I don't

697
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:50.119
pray the whole sorrowful Rosary, the whole Chapolet.

698
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.079
But even if you just say, you get a lot

699
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:52.440
of grace.

700
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.559
I think if you just say one hell Mary, when

701
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.880
I walk my dog every morning, is when.

702
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:57.400
I tend to do it.

703
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.359
I'll say, this is to comfort your heart, Mary, and

704
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.880
to comfort is sacred heart. And I'll just go through

705
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.039
each sorrow, you know, starting with the prophecy of simeon

706
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:09.680
the journey into Egypt. Each one, there's seven of them,

707
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:11.599
and you just said one hell Mary. I mean, that's

708
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.960
not hard to do. I do that within five minutes,

709
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.440
and I'm walking my dog and then I feel at

710
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.359
least like I've honored her sorrowful heart a little bit.

711
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.640
I'm given maybe her giving her a little bit of

712
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.759
comfort for the day.

713
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.559
Well that's cool. So I was thinking about this a

714
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.079
couple of days ago, and actually it was kind of

715
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.519
just a snippet on me and Marry, I told you

716
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.720
how God can come to you in that song or

717
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.200
wherever it is right in a movie, and it was

718
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:36.880
kind of like a cartoon. I guess you'd call it

719
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.799
a clip or something. I was wondering if not next week,

720
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.279
We're gonna have to think about it for a while

721
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.400
and kind of let it like rattle around in our minds.

722
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.480
But I think an interesting discussion be how to pray?

723
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:50.759
You know, do you really know how you're supposed to pray?

724
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.480
Because you ask a lot of people and they don't

725
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.039
really know. Like I'm I'll include myself. You know, how

726
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.200
are we really supposed to pray? Are we just supposed

727
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.960
to recite? Are we to just talk? Or we you know,

728
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.680
I think that'd be kind of a pretty interesting show

729
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:05.160
for us to have.

730
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:06.920
That would be a great show.

731
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.960
Yeah, and there's a lot of different of course Catholic

732
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.000
schools and thoughts on that.

733
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.960
And you can do the devotions, you can do the

734
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:14.359
those you know.

735
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.559
Different saints have told us that that's yeah, let's save that,

736
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.039
let's put that in our pocket for that's a very

737
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.160
I think it would be a very helpful and uplifting podcast.

738
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:26.640
It's kind of funny it's kind of like one, well

739
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:33.480
I prayed really hard. Well how do you pray really hurt.

740
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.079
Exactly exactly?

741
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.319
And like and do you have to hit a quote

742
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.200
a quote every day or do you need I will

743
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.440
say this, Father Rippeger, who's a very well known exorcist,

744
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.640
says that we are not doing justice to God if

745
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.240
we don't at least spend fifteen minutes in prayer every day.

746
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.480
That is the basic level of justice that needs to

747
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.440
be given back to God. And he says that's probably

748
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.079
why every time we you know, you see the Blessed Mother,

749
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.000
she's always saying, and I think all these apparitions, pray

750
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.880
your rosary every day because it takes about fifteen minutes,

751
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.240
and so she's wanting us to at least give God

752
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:06.319
basic justice.

753
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.279
Yeah, nothing, and you don't. I mean, once you do

754
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.960
it every day, you realize that if you don't do it,

755
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.599
you feel like you're missing something. I done something today

756
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.200
and it's kind of like, oh, I really haven't really

757
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.119
talked to God today.

758
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.079
Yeah, there is an emptiness and kind of for me

759
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:24.440
feeling a little bit off.

760
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.640
It feels off track until I.

761
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.440
Yeah, you got there's a feeling of be an empty

762
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.440
and off track for me personally when I haven't prayed

763
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:32.960
it yet.

764
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.160
And it's not too hard just to turn off all

765
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.759
the background noise. And you know, these people will sit there,

766
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.039
they transcendental meditation and all that kind of stuff. Well

767
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.119
you really, you know, it's if you want peace, just

768
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.160
sit there and turn off the TV and just say, hey, God,

769
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.279
thanks for today. You know, right, I'm kind of can't

770
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:54.480
figure this one out. And you know, after a couple

771
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.000
of minutes later, you just get up and go about

772
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.119
your day and you just feel better.

773
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.599
Well, and that's so funny. It's just so cool. All

774
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.799
the holy It's flowing. Because I was on my front

775
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.160
porch I had just prayed my Rosary this morning, and

776
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.720
my neighbor walks by, who has an autistic son. He's Catholic,

777
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.759
and what we ended up talking about was he was

778
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:16.039
talking about how autistic people are very unique and special,

779
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.839
that they have such a childlike almost vulnerability and innocence

780
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.200
to them. And he said, you know, my boy knows

781
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.759
whose name Leo, by the way, He's like, he knows

782
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.839
he's autistic, but he has no concept that other people.

783
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.240
I mean, you can look at him and tell he's autistic,

784
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.680
but he always thinks he needs to tell people.

785
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.559
He's autistic because he doesn't have any self.

786
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.000
Aware and he doesn't think that anybody would know that

787
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.559
if he doesn't tell them. And so that led us

788
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.119
into a conversation about how we all need to be

789
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.920
more childlike and come to God like his little children.

790
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:53.680
Yeah, and actually not only Jesus, but I mean his apostles,

791
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.680
And I mean how many times in the Bible that

792
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.000
they refer to us as you know, children, you know,

793
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.960
all you children and children. I mean they hour for

794
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.559
Paul and Peter, all of them. Basically, if you read

795
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.799
their their books and the bustles and stuff, you know

796
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.119
they're constantly calling it's children exactly.

797
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.799
And I'm sure in God's oz we are children because

798
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.079
he's so much bigger and wiser and he knows, you know.

799
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.720
It's like it's like he's God's dealing with like how

800
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.000
we feel when we're dealing with a two year old, right,

801
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.359
Like they're limited knowledge and they just don't understand everything.

802
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.440
And I'm going to have to help you out because

803
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:25.240
if I don't.

804
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.680
You're not going to get there exactly. Now, this is

805
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.200
totally not biblical, it's not anything. But we're there, and

806
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.000
since we're getting ready to wrap the show up anyway,

807
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.240
I thought i'd tell it. It was doctor and my

808
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.559
brother and his wife. They adopted a new dog, a

809
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.440
Great Dane, so it's already huge at only fifteen weeks

810
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.039
old and all this kind of stuff, and I go, well,

811
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:47.759
you have to really, and they're, God, this dog is

812
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.319
just we have to realize just because it's three feet high,

813
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.720
it's still fourteen weeks old, you know, just because it's big.

814
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.440
You know, he's still got to make Yeah, he's still

815
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:58.960
a puppy man. You have to realize that.

816
00:33:59.039 --> 00:33:59.200
He goes.

817
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.480
I know I'm trying, but you don't understand how big

818
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:03.799
this dog is and all that kind of stuff because

819
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.000
I don't know about and he was talking, well, you're

820
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.159
a cat person, and I was going, well, yeah, they

821
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.599
just show up, but okay, I'm a cat person, and

822
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.880
it was kind of reflecting. I think dogs, since were

823
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.559
you brought it up. I think dogs are kind of

824
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.400
like elementary school kids, and I think cats are like

825
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.360
teenagers are getting ready to graduate high school. You know,

826
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.000
the dog you still have to be around all the

827
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.039
time and everything like that, and they're happy to see you.

828
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.159
Where cats you they're sweet.

829
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.480
Yeah, cats, you can kind of leave them alone. And

830
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.480
the only thing you can actually leave them alone. They

831
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.000
might trash your house or you gone, but you know

832
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:41.559
you can still leave the cat alone.

833
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:42.320
Right.

834
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.320
So I think the cats are the teenagers and dogs

835
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:46.920
are basically elementary school kids.

836
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.599
That's actually pretty good analogy, Jeff, I'll give you that one.

837
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.199
I had nothing to do with Jesus or anything, but hey.

838
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.000
So just he created all of us, right, He created

839
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:58.239
the dogs and the cats.

840
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:02.320
Too, exactly right, And I can't wait to again next time.

841
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.280
Stephan, thank you all for tuning in today with Jeff

842
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.000
and Stephan these days, and just remember we're all in

843
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:09.480
it together.