Aug. 23, 2025

Jeff & Steph talk about God showing up, Fighting for what is right & Trump wanting to go to Heaven

Jeff & Steph talk about God showing up, Fighting for what is right & Trump wanting to go to Heaven

If you look around, you will see God showing up in your life.  Maybe not a brilliant flash of light, but a little thing that makes your whole day easier.  Steph had a great experience where God put the right people into her life to make sine duffucult tasks and chores flow more smothly than if she had to go it alone.  Jeff is dealing with a clouder of cats.  I high school girl had to fight for her right to praise God.  President Trump went intro spective, talked about how he wants to do the right thing and go to heaven.

You can watch and listen to Stephanie on her YouTube channel - In the Service of the Queen - where she talks about the blessed Mary     https://www.youtube.com/@InTheServiceOfTheQueen

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Waiting the day that sounds. I'm gotta get to that

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stuff box gets I magic be on my way, magical

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as we don't know that today.

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Well, hello everyone, I am Jeff and welcome to these

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days with Jeff and Steph. Now we are coming at

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a Catholic perspective on what's going on in the world today.

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So thanks for joining us today. Of course, I am Jeff,

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and we're going down to Nashville, Tennessee. We're gonna talk

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to Steph. How are things going out there?

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Going pretty miraculously today? Actually I have something to say

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besides just hot.

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Well that's good. Let's just get to it. Let us

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know what's miraculous out there in the Bible belt.

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Well, why don't you tell me how your morning's going. First,

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you've got a lot of cats you're dealing with right now.

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Yeah, I always laugh every this big tough guy. And

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yet I have a cloud er cats. If you don't

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know a cloud, it's like a pack of dogs. If

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you have a pack of cats, they're called a clouder.

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And they've all been strays. We'll live out in the country.

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And I have had three and that was enough. And

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then last fall, this one mainsly looking young cat showed up.

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I think it probably got thrown out the car window,

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you know, with the litter kittens or something. I don't know,

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but he showed up and I was like, I don't

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care you go, I'm done. I'm not gonna do any

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more cats. You see his ribs and all of a

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sudd he just wouldn't leave, and I've got well, I'm

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gonna have to do something or I'm gonna bearing a

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cat here. So I started feeding him and all this

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kind of stuff and trying to figure out how to

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get it out of here, and something my mom was

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fighting through dementia. Sad lines ended up being about six

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months later, but she had to mention me and my

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dad were taking care of her and I was trying

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to get rid of this cat, and all of a

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sudden something hit me. It was like, going, that's not

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your cat, that's for your dad. I was like, oh, okay.

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So then I've been taking care of it and raising

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it and trying to turn it into an indoor cat. Well,

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this cat is the sweetest cat. You've seen pictures of it.

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He's a good little guy.

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Big orange orange cats are sweet, they really are.

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And he downstairs were my apartment and my studio and

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all that is. We got some one hundred three days,

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so I'd kind of let him come in here and

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cool off and everything. I divide it because he fights.

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He's trying to take over from the three cats who

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live here normally. He thinks this is I guess he

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thinks he has to fight, like in the wild or

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something for his territory. So he's coming in and my

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dad going, well, you letting that cat in downstairs? It's

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just cool out for a couple hours, you know. Then

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he comes up. I divide it so that he can't

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fight the other cats, and he lives in the garage.

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Somebody goes, you know what, this is the guy who

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didn't want any more animals or anything. But I had

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to just I figured that cat was for him anyway.

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So all of a sudden, out of the blue, he goes,

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you know, we should probably start letting this cat in,

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you know, so it gets used to it. Ooh, okay,

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that's kind of a coming a long way from somebody

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who didn't want any more animals. So of course we

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let the cat in, and he came upstairs, and where's

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going to be living and he thought that was pretty cool,

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and he thought that was good. Now every time he

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try and open the door, there it goes that cat

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right between your legs.

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So like, I'm coming in.

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So my dad comes up the him I think it

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was last night, and he goes, I think we created

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a monster. I don't know what to do, and I go,

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what do you mean? He goes, well, that that cat

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ran in on me. I know, yeah, he's been doing

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that for the last couple of days since we let

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it in. He goes, yeah, but how do I get

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it out? Wow? Okay, So here we are trying to

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get this catch go out. And if you're wondering why

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we're being mean, I don't want that cat in here

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to sound mean until his boys get cut off, you know.

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I don't want to spraying around and everything like that.

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Three of the cats, you Warner Land the importance of that.

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And so until he get his boys cuts off, he's

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gonna be in the garage still. So here we are

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two grown men with these little kitty treats going, come on,

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come coming here, kitty coming, you can go out of

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the garage, and this cat's just sitting there looking like, no,

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I'm not leaving this. I wouldn't have been surprised if

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we were trying to deliver it out to the ground.

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If he want to just shut the door and stay

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locked it and left us in the garage.

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Cat is I want either, because cats are pretty smart.

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So no, that's my little take on today.

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Not much going on dealing with the cats. It's so

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funny how God shows up when you know. I've seen

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it more than one time, especially when there's a loss

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of someone. Cats are healing. I think all animals are healing,

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but there's like a special thing about cats that they

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kind of show up when there's been a death and

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a loss. And I don't know, there's I've noticed that

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I've seen it happen quite a few times, that the

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cat finds you. It's like God, senate, God shows up

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and he's like, Okay, now I'm in the form of

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a cat, and I'm gonna force this love on you

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whether you want it or not.

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Yeah, And they're low maintenance. Still, they're not like I mean,

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dogs are great. I mean, dogs obviously grieve and all

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that kind of stuff. They really take it hard if

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their owner goes away and everything like that, right, But

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a cat so it shows such indifference that when a

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cat actually just like, hey, i'm your bread and curls

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up on your lap or something, you know that there's

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something to that.

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There is definitely, Yeah, it's just crazy. Well, so my morning,

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you know, you know, I'm having to move, and I'm

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going to move actually next weekend. I found a place.

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So the whole thing's been miraculous. So obviously, you know,

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I'm upset about moving. I don't want to leave my

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home that I've had good memories in for ten years.

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But it's a divorced situation. I have to move, and

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it's sad and it's you know, it's just not something

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you want to do or look forward to. But even

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the way I found the place was miraculous. So I

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had been looking all over Nashville and every place was

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too expensive and it wasn't even good, and it wasn't

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in a place that felt good. And I'd put down

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deposits on two different places and I didn't have peace

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about either one, and I was like, I just you know,

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I was just upset. So going back to the Adoration,

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I go to the Adoration chapel and I'm just in tears,

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and I tell Jesus, I don't think I even told

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you this, Did I tell you this part? Okay? So

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I'm in tears and I tell Jesus, I can't find

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the place. I said. You have to just send me

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the place you want me right now, just send it

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straight to me, because I can't find it. Well. By

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the time I get home, I have an email from

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a friend of mine in the neighborhood who's a realtor.

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And I did not ask her to look for places

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for me. I had not asked for her to do this,

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and she had sent me an email and she said, hey,

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I was just thinking about your situation, and here's a

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few places that are not online yet they're not even

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going to be online. Only relators can access this. So

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this is not a place. It was a place that

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actually the owner had just moved out of privately owned,

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so there's not a lot of riff raff to go

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through with a big management company and out of the floor.

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Immediately the one I saw, I knew it was like

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a feeling. I was like, I think I'm supposed to

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be there, and I never could have found it on

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my own. There was no way to possibly find it

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on my own. Only relators would be able to see this.

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And when I called her and I said, I think

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I want to see this place, and she was like,

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you know, I just realized that's actually my friend's place.

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And she didn't even know that it was her friend's

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place when she pulled it up and like send it

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to me. She was looking at it and started thinking, well,

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I think that's Sheila's place, and she had bought it

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and let her daughter live in it, and then her

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daughter got married. So anyway, we go look at it,

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and there was just a piece that came over me

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and it was everything that you know. It's still sad.

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I still don't want to leave my home, but it

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reminds me of a town home I was in a

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few years ago that had good memories, and it's the

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exact same way out. It's only nicer. It's a little

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bigger and it's a little bit nicer, and like God's

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just been pouring love onto me. It's just amazing how

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he shows up. And you know, it's like everything that

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I thought about are kind of worried about, like you know,

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or so it's got all new appliances because I was

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worried or the well will the appliances be crappy or

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even to the point where I had this vision of

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me being able to hang a plant in the corner.

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There's already a hook in the corner for a plant

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right where I wanted to hang it. It's got brand

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new floors, brand new. It's beautiful actually, and like one

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of the places I had put a deposit down on.

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I was upset because I was like, if this is okay. Yeah,

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they renovated it, but there's not like an outside area

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to walk around in that feels good, and there's no balcony,

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there's no outside space. Well, this place has a pretty

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good sized fenced in patio and the entire complex, which

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is small, has a pool. I did send pictures to you,

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so you say, it's got like the nice and it

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just feels good. It's got a sidewalk that goes across

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around the whole thing. It makes a circle. It's got flow.

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And I even took a couple of friends, my neighbors,

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my Vietnamese neighbors who are Catholic. They wanted me to

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go to the home depot with them last night and

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help them. I'm a good decorator, so they wanted me

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to help pick out Tyle and she's redoing her bathroom.

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But I took them by the place and they were

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like genuinely, they're like, Stephanie, I'm so happy for you

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because they know everything I've been through, and they're like,

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this place just does have a good feeling. You can

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feel God's hand on it. And they're like, this is beautiful,

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this is so cute. This is all you need. And

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so yeah, like God showed up. I said, God, I

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can't find it my own. You're gonna have to send

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it to me. And within an hour, talk about faithfulness,

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he sent it to me.

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You know you moving it proved to me that God

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loves me too, because you're not having to that's right.

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He put it together and honestly said, you're gonna meet

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this great woman. You guys are gonna have a great rapport,

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become really good friends. You're gonna have a good banter.

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You might not get agree on everything, but you're gonna

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be respectful and you're gonna just your life is gonna

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be better for having her in it. And she's fifteen

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hundred miles a eight hours or miles away, so you

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don't have to help He remove there.

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You go. Isn't that the truth? Because if there's anything

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I hate, I actually think I made a calliment one time.

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I was like, there's got to be like a like

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a section of hell where all you have to do

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is help people move all day because because it's horrible,

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I hate moving. But that brings me to my second story,

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which just happened. I want you know, you and I

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talk about, like, what are we gonna talk about on

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the show. Well this it's so God is so faithful

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for everything, because this story just happened. So I wasn't

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even unknown to tell you we were gonna talk about it.

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So this morning I wake up and I'm like, I

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might as well just deal with the suffering. You know.

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My friend called me and actually left me a message.

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The Bereavery of Today for the Catholic Church talks about

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there there are no graces without suffering, and the greater

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the suffering, the greater the graces you're given. So I'm like, well,

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this is perfect. I'm hearing our message while I'm on

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hold with the cable company. Then I'm on hold with

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the electric company, and I'm like, this is all just

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horrible that I'm having to because when you're you know,

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like when you're getting married and moving into a place,

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you're excited and you're starting a new life, and you

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don't mind even making these calls and being on hold

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and all the inconvenience of just the monotony of having

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to deal with all this crap. But when you're leaving

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a home, you don't want to be leaving and it's

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a sad situation. It really feels awful, and it feels

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to me it's like the emotional part's even worse because

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it's like it feels like, you know, rejection, I guess,

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I just give this suffering to you God, like this

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is suffering, and you know, give me grace through it.

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where I'm switching the cable services, she's like, well, you know,

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the cable right now is in your husband's name. If

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you want to put it in your name and start

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a new account, I can basically save you half off,

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and if you want to switch your phone, you won't

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even have a bill for a year and there's no catch.

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her for over an hour. So for a year, I

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have no So this is like practical blessings, and I'm

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going to get to the spiritual blessing, which is even

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way better. So for practical blessings, God's given me, my

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cable bill is going to be basically cut in half.

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I have no phone bill for a year, and then

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once I get a phone bill after a year, it'll

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only be forty bucks, which right now I'm paying one

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hundred bucks, so huge savings. The place that I'm moving

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to is already cheaper than either one of the places

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I have put a deposit down on, and they pay

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for water, and there's no pet fees and there's no

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pet rent, and you deal with a private owner that

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my friend knows who actually there wasn't They weren't even

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going to allow pets, but she said, well, Stephanie's clean

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and her house is immaculate and it doesn't smell like pets,

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and so they're like, okay, she can have pets. It's like,

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you know, God has just taking care of everything. And

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then because I was on holds and we were waiting

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for the third party verification, you know, with the cable

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to approve all this. We just start talking and she

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starts telling me, you know, just personal stuff, like well,

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I have really bad allergies. And she's in Delaware and

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she's like, how are allergies there? And I was like, well,

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you know, actually I since we had a few minutes.

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I'm like, okay. I'm like, well, since we have ten minutes,

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I am getting my holistic nutrition degree right now. And

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I've always loved like nutrition and natural remedies. And I

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was telling her I used to have really bad allergies too,

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and I used to be on allergy shots. Because she

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is on allergy shots every week and she hates it.

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like up your vitamin sea lavender and lemon essential oils.

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And she's writing all this down and then I start

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telling her a little bit about my personal situation. And

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she was like, Stephanie, I kid you, not three years

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ago I was in your exact same situation. I mean,

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how crazy is that? And she said, I moved out

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of my house and she goes, basically without getting into

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all the det she went through the exact same situation

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in her marriage as I've gone through. She moved out

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of her house. She was only gone for a few months,

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and she's like, I just kept praying. God never left it.

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She's a woman of faith. I said, well, I'm a

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woman of faith. She said, I am too, And she said,

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if God put something on your heart to pray about,

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and he's not letting it go, and he's not removing

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the love, and he's putting forgiveness and grace, keep praying,

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she said, because I'll tell you miracles happened in my life.

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And her and her husband are actually back together. They've

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been together for three years now. And she's like, it's

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amazing what God can do. But just focus on you.

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Focus on your life. That's what God's telling you right now.

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You need to heal. Your husband needs to heal. That's

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what I felt like. It's time for me to move

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out of the house and there needs to be healing,

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and I want healing to come for all of us.

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And I feel him saying like, come away with me.

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And I think I told you. He was like showing

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me there's gonna be water, like there's gonna be an

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oasis of love and blessings here for you in this

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new place. He gave me the word yesterday. Well let

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me finish the woman first. She goes, I'm going to

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keep you in my prayers and I said, I'll keep

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you in my prayers too, and she was just like,

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I said, this is so cool because God gives me

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signs through birds, you know. All the time. I was like,

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I was really praying this morning. So it's the week

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last weekend in my house and I'm moving next weekend,

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and I was just praying to hear from him to

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get confirmation. I was like, please just show me another

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sign with the birds, and he didn't, and I was like,

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but God is so good. He was like, I'm going

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to do you one better, like this is better than

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a bird. I'm going to give you a real person

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to talk to that's going to confirm everything I've been

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telling you, that's been through the exact same thing, that

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knows exactly where you're coming from. And by the end

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of our conversation, she goes, Stephanie, I wouldn't even be

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surprised if you don't see a bird today anyway, because

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God's just that good. She's like, He's going to send

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you the bird too, And she said, and this is

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something only God had told me. I did not share

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this with her. She goes, I'm going to decree and

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declare over your life. You're still going to have children

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and be a mother. Now she knows my situation, she

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knows even the fact that I've had his directed me.

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But God has told me that He has promised that

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you will be a mother. You will have a child,

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whether it's miraculously, and I wouldn't put it past him

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or through adoption, but I honestly wouldn't put it past him.

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That's how much faith I have in God. You know,

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you never said Elizabeth had a child, Sarah had a child.

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You know, you never you just never know. I think

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we're in times of miracles and a lot of people

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are going through the same thing. So when when I

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say that she's gone through it, and she said, she

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actually started a prayer support group, and she goes, you

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wouldn't believe how many people actually are going through the

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same situation or have gone through exactly what you and

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I are going through. And she goes, and there's miracles.

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When you trust in God, there's going to be miracles

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because He is a healer and he is a restorer.

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So that's it. That's my miracle for today. God showed up.

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It's actually pretty good at that, you know, mm hmm yep.

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Showed up in the form of right in the middle

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of my suffering too. That's what the you know, I

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think that's the message in the middle of suffering. You know,

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even when the Israelites were wandering through the wilderness, he

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would show up with nana and food enough to fill them.

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And he even said in the bread was the exact

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same flavor each one of them wanted. He didn't even

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give them general bread. It was like whatever flavor each

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person wanted the most, he would make it taste like that.

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Like that's how good God is. We just we limit

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him way too much.

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I think, you know my mind, how it kind of

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goes there where it kind of got me earlier. You

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were talking about you hate moving, and that's the worst thing. Well,

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I think about the Bible. The Jews had been slaves

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for four inn of years, and a lot of them

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didn't even want to move. They didn't want to have

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gotten right.

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They kept wanting to go back to Egypt.

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Well, actually, throughout the Bible, I mean whenever God would

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tell them you have to go with somewhere, you know,

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to the new Land or something. They all were reluctant.

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Anyone wanted to move.

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They didn't know. And I feel it. I mean, I

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know what he's telling me. I know he's telling me

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to move. I know he wants my husband back in

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this house, and he's gonna encounter him here and heal

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him here, and he's gonna heal me. And you know,

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this place, he wouldn't have found me a place that

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feels so good. It feels so good when I walk

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over there. It feels like there's going to be nourishment

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and provision that I've been lacking over the past couple

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of years.

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Well, and probably he needs to move you out of it.

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As much as you love that house and all that

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kind of stuff, he probably needs to get you out

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of there so you can come at it from a

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different perspective. Right, It's like your life is there and

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it hasn't kind of been sucky, and you haven't been

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happy and all this kind of stuff. He said, all right, well,

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I'm gonna move you here where you're going to be

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happy and all that. Now you can look back at

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your life and see how you know, from a different perspective.

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Anyway, Right, he did give me that message. Actually, you're

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right on point that, you know, like I had told you.

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He was saying, break camp and break camp and can

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also it's not just a physical move, it's a mindset.

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And he was telling me that, like this is a mindset.

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I'm also wanting you to break where I'm really you know,

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he keeps giving me that scripture in Isaiah. Can't you

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perceive it. I'm doing a new thing. I'm like water

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spring up in the desert. I put rivers in the wasteland.

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And so like he has to move us physically, mentally, emotionally.

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He has to move us in order to do a

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new thing. And it's not like he can just do

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a new thing in the old place, right, you know,

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He's got to move us and get a new mindsept

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a new mindset. I think that's why we all love

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I love to travel. I think that's why we love

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to travel is because every time you go to a

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new place, it brings in a fresh perspective and new thoughts,

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and it just kind of refreshes your soul.

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Yeah new people like you said, yeah, everything, Yeah, and pleasant.

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I love to travel. Everybody loves to travel, but with

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behind us, everybody loves to get back home.

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That's true. That's such a good point too. Yeah, because

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because there is the balance, they're both necessary. Yeah, you

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need the fresh perspective, and he's given you that because

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home is sacred, right, Home is sacred. It's our domestic church.

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So he gives you this fresh perspective and he leads

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you out and then brings you back home so that

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you can kind of do things better and new in

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the home in the church.

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And I think a lot of people struggle with and

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I don't think they're bad or they're doing anything wrong,

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but like you were able to tell that, oh wow,

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look at this, things are falling into place. You know.

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I have a friend who found a piece of property

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that rental that wasn't even going to be on the market,

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and bam, this lady's going to help me get all

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my stuff moved over vam and all this kind of stuff.

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And I think a lot of people though they don't

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and you were like, thank you God for doing that.

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I think a lot of people they just say oh okay,

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and they don't realize that, you know, there was somebody

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else that you know, there was another force there that

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was kind of helping all us fall into place for.

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You, right, right, And that's why we're doing this podcast, right,

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because that was my goal. You said you wanted to

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make people think, and I want to make people wake

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up and be aware of God's presence in his hand

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and everything, because I see it in everything. I mean,

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his providence, his sovereign, sovereign providence is just in everything.

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And I don't know when you live life that way,

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it's just so magical, it really is.

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Yeah, And I mean I don't even know who A

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lot of people have probably said it over the years.

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If you just really want to understand how great God is,

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just go into like mountains Tennessee mountains, I mean, not like.

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Some small ones.

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Yeah, you can go if you just hike to the

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top of one and just look out and you just

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kind of like realize, these people there was a divine plan.

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This didn't happen by accident. You can just when you

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look into the world from a from a high perspective,

468
00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:24.920
you can actually better. You can't really see how God works, right.

469
00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:29.079
So yeah, and God it's literally literally and figuratively when

470
00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:31.559
you come up higher. Sometimes you have to come up higher,

471
00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:33.880
which you know. Yesterday he kept showing me a hawk.

472
00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.079
There was this huge hawk that was like following me around.

473
00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:39.000
It would like fly over me and it would land

474
00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.400
when I stuff. It was just kind of around and

475
00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:43.799
it's been around, and I think the message and that

476
00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:47.599
was to come up higher and get a higher perspective,

477
00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:50.680
kind of more of a detached perspective of what's going on,

478
00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.880
because think how God sees everything. He sees everything, and

479
00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:55.720
he's got a whole world to manage, and a whole

480
00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.440
bunch of messed up humans to kind of love and

481
00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:01.559
God and wrecked like a good shepherd, he's got this

482
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.880
whole flock's kind of scattered all over the place. He's

483
00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.319
trying to be like, Okay, from my perspective, I see

484
00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.920
what I'm wanting you to do, and all the you

485
00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.240
can't even see it because you're like over here, not

486
00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:12.920
wanting to leave this place. But if you just go

487
00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.160
around the corner and around this little hill, there's a

488
00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.039
whole oasis of water and food and good stuff I've

489
00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.599
got planned for you, and you just need to go

490
00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:22.839
around the corner here. But we can't see it when

491
00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:23.440
we're down low.

492
00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:25.920
Have you heard the story about the eagle and the crow? No,

493
00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.960
if all the birds, you know, the egle obviously can

494
00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.279
eat kill any bird at once, you know, and all

495
00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.039
that kind of stuff. Yeah, and you know, well, the

496
00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:38.240
only bird that's not afraid of the eagle is the

497
00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:40.920
crow and crows. If an eagle comes into this kind

498
00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.799
of area, we'll go and actually peck and bug the eagle,

499
00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:46.240
and sometimes they'll even grab a hold of the eagle

500
00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:48.279
and stuff. So you think the eagle would kill it.

501
00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:52.319
And this is actually from studies. They've quoted the studies

502
00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:53.960
of people who've seen it in the others. So the

503
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.319
eagle didn't even deal with the crow. The eagle just

504
00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:59.519
shoots up high and just goes up high, and then

505
00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:02.119
the crow can't handle the altitude, and the crow just

506
00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:04.640
finally drops away, and the eagle just comes back and

507
00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.119
does its own little thing kind of like would you

508
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:09.119
rather swear with the eagles or fall like the crows?

509
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.559
Wow, what a good story for me today, Thank you, Jeff.

510
00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.400
That is yeah for our listeners too, because that is

511
00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:18.839
just rise above it sometimes, if you just rise above it,

512
00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.799
which what's hitting me right now is what is what

513
00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:22.799
forgiveness is.

514
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.480
Yep, rise above it and don't don't even deal with it.

515
00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:28.000
It's kind of yeah, whatever, you know, you're just an annoyance.

516
00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:28.599
I'm moving on.

517
00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:33.119
High right, just move up higher, and there's beautiful sights

518
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:33.839
to see up here.

519
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.880
I'm doing a little peruising and I found a couple

520
00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.160
of stories we might want to talk about.

521
00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.519
Okay, what are they Okay, when.

522
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:42.680
They're near Buffalo, New York, and it's called this Grand

523
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.200
Island Senior High School. Now, in this high school, I

524
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.160
had no of this, but they're seniors. They're able to

525
00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:51.039
get fifty bucks and they can get a parking spot

526
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.200
their own personal and use it for the entire year.

527
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.119
So I mean, that's not really preparing kids for the

528
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:56.799
future because you're never going to get a parking spot

529
00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.640
for fifty dollars a year. But anyway, So anyway, but

530
00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.559
then they get to decorate the you know, the front

531
00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.400
of it, and they can they do their design that

532
00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:06.759
they're going to paint on it, and then they give

533
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.359
it to the school board and or not the school board,

534
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.799
but the committee at school, like the president or the

535
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.119
principal and vice principal, and you know, probably a couple

536
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.839
of teachers or whatever, and they know, just to make

537
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.119
sure it's not naked girls or something, and then they

538
00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:23.720
painted on there. Well, this girl, her name is Sabrina Stephans.

539
00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:25.640
She's actually in charge of the Bible club too at

540
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.359
the school. Now, she bought paid her fifty bucks. She

541
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.640
got her spot. So she gave them her first drunk.

542
00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:33.640
She said, here's what I'm going to do. So she

543
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.279
had a cross and a heart. Then she had John

544
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.880
four sixteen. I am the Way, the truth and the life.

545
00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.880
No one comes through my father except through me. Pretty cool,

546
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:46.920
Pretty cool. So she turned it in. They rejected it,

547
00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:48.720
sent it back to her, said no, we can't do this.

548
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.880
You can't put a cross on there because then we'll

549
00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.160
have to allow kids to put Satanic images on there,

550
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.240
and we're not going to even start down that right path.

551
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.799
So Sabrina said, okay, So she came back and she goes.

552
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.920
She put it on there through five sixteen. Let your

553
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.799
light shine, you know from the sermon in the mountain.

554
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.319
That's where he said, right, and on the light, she

555
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:09.880
turned the light into a cross, and then underneath it

556
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.279
she put Jeremiah twenty nine to eleven. I think that's

557
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.440
where God is promising hope or something like that. I'm

558
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.440
not exactly sure, but anyway, so she said, here you go,

559
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.920
turn it in now too religious. She can't do that,

560
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.839
oh man. So she comes back again and she put

561
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.519
it and she just put on let your light shine.

562
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.559
He is the King. So then they came back and

563
00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:31.119
they were kind of condescending to her. They said, all right,

564
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:33.359
we're gonna let you that one slide, even though we

565
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.920
know what you're talking about, but you can't add anything

566
00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:38.119
to it, you know, just like that. And she said fine,

567
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.519
and she started thinking about it. And now she's a

568
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.960
senior in high school and charged the Bible clubs, so

569
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.279
she probably used better language like gosh darn it or

570
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:48.640
something like that. I would have used a lot bigger explanative,

571
00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.160
you know. But she thought, you know, no, this is wrong.

572
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.759
So she goes, I'm gonna sue. Well some of the

573
00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:58.480
Christian leaders. I think that there's an organization that whether

574
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.519
you're Catholic or any denomination, and they come and to

575
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.079
help you out if you're a Christian struggling. And they

576
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.559
heard about it, so they said, okay, well we'll help

577
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.160
you sue the school district because you can't sue the school, school,

578
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:12.039
the school district. So and whenever you're going to sue somebody,

579
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:13.680
you don't take us straight to court. You have to

580
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:17.119
give them an intent to sue. So this group they

581
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:19.519
sent an eleven page document to the school board. They

582
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.359
told them why they were suing, and of course the

583
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:25.200
school boards woooo, well no, no, we weren't trying to

584
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:26.960
be mean to her at all. And she's like, yeah,

585
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.319
they're not even letting let alone my freedom religion. They're

586
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.079
not let me exercise my first Amendment right tore speech.

587
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.759
Oh no, that's wrong, wrong, wrong. So I don't know

588
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.160
if it was a really high settlement they were after,

589
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:40.640
if they didn't want the publicity, but the school board

590
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:42.960
actually broke down, so Sabrina and she was able to

591
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.359
paint that very first option on there.

592
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:46.200
So that's great. What was the first option?

593
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.759
That was the Cross and the Heart in Matthew Matthew

594
00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:54.920
five sixteen that it says, I am the Way, the Truth,

595
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.640
and the Light. No one comes to the Father except

596
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:56.960
through me.

597
00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.839
Awesome. When I did look up Jeremiah twenty nine and

598
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.119
while you were talking, and I think that's prophetic because

599
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.519
that was the verse where he said, I know the

600
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.279
plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and

601
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.079
not to harm you. Oh cool, Yeah, so he did.

602
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.480
He prospered her, He had good plans for her. Wow,

603
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:15.680
that's a great story.

604
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.160
But I'm wondering, so these school people, do you think

605
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.680
they were evil and they just didn't want Christians? Or

606
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.839
you think they were lazy and they just didn't want

607
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:25.519
to have to deal with anything. It's just kind of like,

608
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.559
you know, I mean, they're just kind of half hearted.

609
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.400
They might even go to church, but yeah, you know,

610
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.200
but we just don't want to deal with it.

611
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:35.680
So well, let me ask you. Was it a public school? Yes, Okay,

612
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.559
I can I can kind of understand from managing apartments

613
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.880
and having to deal with so many different people and

614
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.559
so many different mindsets and so many different backgrounds that

615
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:49.559
I can kind of understand maybe they weren't evil, or

616
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.359
just maybe they weren't just anti Christian giving them the

617
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.000
benefit of the doubt, because you do have that, like

618
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:58.880
so we you know, we definitely you do have like

619
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.359
people are just ridiculous, you know. It's like, so yeah,

620
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.480
it is true, like that we had a guy one

621
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.839
time that wanted to put out some Bibles, and you

622
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:10.640
know if you let if you let them, you do

623
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.759
get people that get pissed off. Can I say that

624
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:18.039
on a podcast? It's like, you know, then then you do.

625
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.920
You had the uh, you had other religions coming up

626
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.720
at us, well why can't I put my stuff out?

627
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.640
And you do in this day and age. Sadly you

628
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.960
have the Satanist and the witches and the witchcraft covens

629
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.640
coming up, going well, we should be able to put

630
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:35.119
our satanic stuff out too. That actually is a real concern,

631
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.519
which is insane. I actually had to show an apartment

632
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:44.079
one time to a practicing witch who was Satanic. But

633
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.119
I actually didn't show the apartment to her. I started

634
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.759
praying and she got really uncomfortable and she was like,

635
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:49.960
you know what, I don't think these are the right

636
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.640
apartments for me anyway, and she left. I started praying

637
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:54.319
because I was like, I can't show this lady in

638
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.720
an apartment. But anyway, Yeah, so you have to deal

639
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.240
with so many different kinds of people that maybe they

640
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.799
were just trying to avoid a bunch of drama. But

641
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.720
you know, God prevailed. Jesus is the only way in

642
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:09.680
the truth and the life. He is the only truth.

643
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.559
So good for her that she actually got the truth

644
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:13.480
put out there.

645
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.720
But the philosophical in a way, though Jesus says, you

646
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.720
can't deny me. But aren't they denying him?

647
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.079
Right, Yeah, he says, And he says every need will

648
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.680
bend at my name. I mean, he doesn't say they

649
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.680
might or maybe someday they will. They will, so, I mean,

650
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.799
I don't know. Hopefully we're he is the only truth.

651
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.799
I mean, everybody's going to know it at some point.

652
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.359
I guess you and I know that as believers, everybody's

653
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:37.599
going to know it at some point.

654
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.799
I think what gets me crazy is everything he said

655
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.400
to me is absolutely since like they man, we just

656
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:45.240
don't want to deal with this and all that kind

657
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.799
of stuff, but common sense is thrown out the window.

658
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.759
He said, well, well, I'm a Satanist, so why can't

659
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.599
I put that on my thront because nowhere in the

660
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.440
Declaration of Independence of the Constitution does it say one

661
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.880
needs under satan right God.

662
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.240
It goes back to our country was founded on Christian

663
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.440
and Judeo principles and the One True God of Abraham

664
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.039
and Moses, and we honor him on our money. We

665
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.880
honor him on our constitution. So I think a lot

666
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.039
of it's some of it's probably ignorance, and some of

667
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.480
it's probably cowardice. But good, you know, it's like, we can't,

668
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:21.640
we can't. Everybody needs to quit being a coward and

669
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.640
stand up for what's right.

670
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:24.599
That's exactly where I was heading. It's kind of like,

671
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:29.200
you know, eventually, because at church, everybody, especially the Catholics,

672
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.559
I'm sure that all of them do, but they always say,

673
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.240
go forth and preach the gospel, you know, go forth

674
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.440
and spread it. And every priest will tell you that

675
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.400
most of the people in that church are going. I

676
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.079
can't do that, you know, I'm not that. That's just

677
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.559
not my personality and all that kind of stuff. And

678
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.119
you might, you know, that's not your thing, but you

679
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.200
can stand up and let a little girl putting a

680
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:50.480
cross on her parking spot.

681
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:56.200
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. And you know, the Bible says everybody

682
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.119
has a conscience to know right from wrong, so you

683
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.279
know the Bible's true. So if everybody has a conscious

684
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.640
to know right from wrong, even if you are not

685
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.079
a Christian, you don't consider yourself a Christian. You don't

686
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.000
even if you've never heard of Jesus and you live

687
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.319
out in the middle of the boondocks in Africa or whatever,

688
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.359
you still would know right from wrong when it's presented

689
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:17.400
to you right.

690
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.839
And I think what I'm kind of getting. We both

691
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.039
touched on it and we both said, it is about

692
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.359
you know, you have for these school leaders. And let's

693
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.680
be honest, they did prevail. I mean they for public

694
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:29.599
school actually back down like that. That was actually a

695
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:30.079
prett dean.

696
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.599
I mean that is pretty cool.

697
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:33.960
Yeah, it's probably if it was in New York City

698
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:35.880
or California, you know, they wouldn't have back down.

699
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:36.799
You know what city?

700
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:37.920
Was this in Buffalo?

701
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.920
Well, that's still pretty cool. But yeah, I mean I

702
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.039
think it goes back to the title of our show,

703
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.640
These Times. I think we are in these times where

704
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.680
we are going to see victories from God, and we

705
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:52.920
were hungry for him because the last few years, it

706
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.000
seems like victory after victory for Satan. It just seems

707
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.039
like he's been winning everything. But I think God is

708
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:03.200
like I think God likes God likes drama, He has

709
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:05.759
a sense of humor. He like God, so he's just

710
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:07.680
so big we can't understandhim. But I think he kind

711
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.960
of likes to I mean, it's called the Hail Mary

712
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.519
Pass for a reason, right, Like he likes to come in.

713
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.400
He likes to make it look like the underdog's losing

714
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:16.920
and they're just getting beat up, and then at the

715
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.000
last minute he's going to swoop in and and just

716
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.799
overwhelm the enemy and be like, you thought you were winning,

717
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.920
you thought you were running this world. Let me show

718
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.920
you who's God goad.

719
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.799
I think I just want people to actually start standing up,

720
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.359
you know, just because for years and years and years,

721
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.440
like let's say, well over Christmas, you know, the Nativity scenes,

722
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.799
all these anti the oh you can't have that, that's

723
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.519
infringing on my rights and all that and near you

724
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.920
all right whatever, no saying no, you're infringing on my rights,

725
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:48.720
but not let me put it up. I think people

726
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.079
just need to start just standing up and saying no.

727
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:52.400
You know, yeah, you have.

728
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.519
A right to. You know, if somebody's gonna run their

729
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.160
mouths spout in ignorance, you have a right to stand

730
00:31:58.200 --> 00:31:58.839
up for the truth.

731
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.200
Okay, well this is a truth. And it got him

732
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:02.680
in a little bit of trouble, and I don't think

733
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.359
he should have. But I think when somebody speaks, actually

734
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.440
the truth, even if you disagree with him, I think,

735
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.519
but you know, that's what they actually believe. I think

736
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.839
that's great because I mean so many times people just

737
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.039
won't tell the truth on what they believe they're feeling

738
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.640
at that time. Right well, President Trump this week he

739
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.279
was on you know, he's been working really hard to

740
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.920
try and broker a piece deal between the Ukraine and

741
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.319
the Russians to try and stop that war that's been

742
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.759
aval that's like this big thing right now. He was

743
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.000
on TV, I don't know, probably Fox or something like that,

744
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.240
but they were asking him about why he's working on

745
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.960
that Ukraine Russia war, and he said, I want to

746
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.920
end it. You know, we're not losing any American lives,

747
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.079
We're losing Russian and Ukrainian mostly soldiers. I want to

748
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.000
try to get into heaven if possible. I'm hearing. I'm

749
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.279
not doing well and I'm really at the bottom of

750
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.920
the totem pole. But if I can get this done,

751
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:51.480
I can get into heaven. I think this is one

752
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.279
of the reasons that it'll get me there. So that's

753
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.839
some self inflect interflict. You know, he's thinking about it,

754
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.559
interflecting himself, and he's saying, you know what, I want

755
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.039
to go to heaven. You know I'm going to train

756
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:03.799
and get there. I don't and all these people just

757
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.799
bad nothing audacity of him to try and see that

758
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.440
he's trying to do this to go to heaven. And

759
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.759
I don't see really what was wrong with what he said?

760
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.799
No, actually what I see. And you know, I did

761
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.160
have a Belmont teacher in my creativity and spirituality class

762
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:22.039
years ago. She my final remark was you see connections,

763
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.920
and you see deeper into things where other people miss it.

764
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.400
She said that was my greatest gift, just to see

765
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.000
what other people don't. I see Mary's hand on him,

766
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.039
and I see, you know, a philanthropy. You know, he

767
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.680
he's lived his life not so great by his but

768
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.240
he's always been honest as far as I can tell.

769
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.519
Like I mean, I saw him in an interview saying

770
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.400
he the one thing he admired most was men who

771
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.599
could be faithful. He's like, I've never been able to

772
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.319
be faithful to a woman. I mean, so at least

773
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.720
he's honest and he kind of knows his shortcomings. And

774
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.039
I think because you know all of the times, all

775
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.400
those assassination attempts last year were on Big Mary and

776
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.759
Feast days. A lot of people don't realize that, and

777
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.920
then he started posting things about Mary. So to me,

778
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.920
I think he there has been a relationship with Mary

779
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.159
on a deeper spiritual level that has been formed, and

780
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.079
we know as Catholics, once that happens, your conversion and

781
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.960
your acceptance into heaven, well they're absolute because she doesn't fail.

782
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.039
Right, I agree with you, But I think.

783
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.079
It's great that he's he's thinking in those terms and

784
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.320
he's looking at hisself and going, yeah, maybe I can

785
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.119
maybe if I do that. I think he has a

786
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.280
good heart. I've always said I think Trump does have

787
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.599
a good heart. I think he you know, he's a center.

788
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.559
We're all centers like, but I do think he has

789
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.239
a good heart where he doesn't want people just to

790
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.559
die needlessly.

791
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.840
And all that and so so, moving off of Trump,

792
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.960
you know he's a catalyst for this question. So you

793
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.079
live your whole life, can one good deed that you

794
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:49.360
perform get you into heaven?

795
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:51.599
I think I don't think. Well, you know, the Bible

796
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.119
says it's not by our works that we get in,

797
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.239
it's by our faith. But I think it's showing that

798
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.440
he is getting faith and his heart's converted and it

799
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.920
and the Bible says God looks at our hearts. He's

800
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:02.920
really concerned about our heart, not about what we do.

801
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:06.400
So it's not so much you know, the works are

802
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.639
I think Saint pauls so that the works are fruit

803
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.960
of the fruit of the spirit. So without the works

804
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.000
are just the sun that his heart's changing, I guess,

805
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:15.960
is what I would say.

806
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:18.480
I'm talking more than general abity, not just Trump. I'm

807
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.960
just talking to anybody. You see, you've known some bad

808
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.159
people in your life and everything like that, and you're like, man,

809
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.079
of course we can't judge him. They're not going to

810
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.840
you know, that wouldn't be the Christian right God, God,

811
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.840
we get mad at us. Do you see some people

812
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.559
and you're like, man, I can't ever see them getting

813
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:33.800
to heaven? And then could they do anything that wealth

814
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:34.280
within God?

815
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.519
Okay, No, I don't think so. I don't think you

816
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.559
can do anything. I think when your heart truly changes,

817
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.440
that's what gets you into heaven. Because if your heart

818
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:44.480
changes and you are truly repentant for the things you've

819
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.280
done and you want to accept Christ, that's what gets

820
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.280
you into heaven. But if you actually have to, and

821
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.639
that might happen at the last moment, right before you die.

822
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.400
But if it happens before you die, then you're actually

823
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:56.440
you are going to see them do works and take

824
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.559
action the support that their heart has changed.

825
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.199
That's I don't know if it's in the Bible or

826
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.039
if it's like in movies and just kind of a

827
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.599
folk now, but I always heard that the one way

828
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.280
to get an immediately to heaven is to sacrifice or

829
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.320
to give your life for somebody else's life.

830
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.079
I think that is in scripture. Yeah, if you die, martyr,

831
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.039
you're you're going straight to heaven, because I think Jesus

832
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.880
said that anybody who gives his life for my sake,

833
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.960
So yeah, St. Saint Maximilian Colby we had, wasn't it

834
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.039
his because he gave his life in place of a

835
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.480
prisoner in Ashwitz. And you know, my friend was telling

836
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.480
me it was horrible. You think, like he just went

837
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.559
to the gas chamber and was immediately killed, and maybe

838
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.119
it wasn't so bad, but they weren't getting the dead

839
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.679
bodies out of the gas chamber for several days and

840
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.679
he had to sit in there with like all these

841
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.360
dead bodies and then can you imagine the smell before

842
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.239
he died? Like, but yeah, he gave his life. He

843
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.320
was a priest to Catholic priests and very devoted to Mary.

844
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:54.159
He started the Immaculata Mischigon, the Militia Immaculotta. Anyway, it's

845
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.400
like the Army of Mary. He started that, which is

846
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.639
still going strong today. But yeah, his life. And I

847
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.679
do think the Catholic Church teaches that when you give

848
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.039
your life for the sake of Jesus, you do go

849
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:07.519
directly to Heaven, you know.

850
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:11.760
And I think actually one good deal, good doing, one

851
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.800
big good deed gets you in, Devin. I think it

852
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.159
could for the simple fact that for you to do

853
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.159
that one good deed, your whole heart would have to

854
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.199
change how you'd lived, and otherwise you would have ever

855
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:21.519
done it.

856
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.519
Exactly, That's what I was trying to say, but you

857
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.239
just said it better. Yeah, yeah, I agree, because your heart,

858
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.519
your heart shows you, your actions show where your.

859
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.639
Heart is right, and that's the time that might even

860
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:34.440
surprise the person.

861
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.239
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, so so everybody check your heart

862
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.880
today and just you know, I think I think that's

863
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.159
just you know, that's the most important thing, is what

864
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:48.639
does the Bible say have a pure, pure heart and

865
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:49.960
clean hands.

866
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.599
Yeah I think so. Yeah, Okay, everybody, Well, thank you

867
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.760
all for joining us today. Man, it was fun talking

868
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.440
to you, Steph, and you got it busy after.

869
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.360
God's going to show up. He's going to keep up,

870
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.280
and I hope he shows up for you and everybody.

871
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.920
Everybody listening today. Look for all the ways that God

872
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.000
is showing up, because I guarantee you he is.

873
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.719
That's right. And next time, I guess we'll see you.

874
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.360
And when we talk about these times, won't.

875
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.519
We Yeah, we'll see you next time. With Jeff and Stephan,

876
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:16.159
just remember we're all in it together.