Sept. 7, 2025

Jeff & Steph talk about what it takes to become a saint. They Celebrate Carlos Acutis & Pier Giorgio Frassati

Jeff & Steph talk about what it takes to become a saint. They Celebrate Carlos Acutis & Pier Giorgio Frassati
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On Sept 7th, two new saints will be cannonized, Carolos Acutis and Pier Giorgio Frassati.  Jeff & Steph celebrate them.  They also talk about the process of becoming a saint, and what exactly is a saint. How you can be a saint

You can watch and listen to Stephanie on her YouTube channel - In the Service of the Queen - where she talks about the blessed Mary     https://www.youtube.com/@InTheServiceOfTheQueen

You can catch Jeff on numorous podcasts   https://coolcasts.cooolmedia.com/

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Waiting the day night sounds, I'm gotta get to the

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star bugs gets imagines me on my way.

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Magic cold as was my BM.

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We don't know.

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That today.

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Well, hi everyone, I am Jeff and welcome to these

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days with Jeff AND's Steph, Steph. I were things out

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there in Tennessee's.

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A little dark and rainy today, actually, and that's nice.

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I'm in my I'm still my pajamas with my thick

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white athletic sock song because it's kind of cold. This

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is the first day it's kind of cold here, and

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I don't have an umbrella yet, so I had to

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deal with that walking the dog in the rain this morning.

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But that's that's okay, first world problems. How are things

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out there in Colorado?

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It was kind of weird because earlier this week it

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was just summer, clear sky at eighty eight degrees every day,

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and two days ago, boom smoke just rolled in all

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across the thing. So all the radio stations, the TV

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stations kept getting nine one one reverse calls and every

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there is no fire, quit calling nine to one one. Well,

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a cold friend is probably there. Now. A cold friend

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had come through and taken all the smoke I guess

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California and Washington have a bunch of wildfires out there,

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so it just brought in all that smoke. But he

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would have thought it was right here. I mean, it

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was that crowded. But then that cold front hit, so

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like this morning, it was forty four degrees when I

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got up.

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Oh crazy, So it's kind of cooled off. Every both

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our places have cooled off.

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Yeah, I mean our highest day was like sixty three.

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I think you bully get warmer than that.

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But starting out, yeah, we were hot yesterday, but not today.

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So everybody's been hearing about your beginning. Had your first

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full week of work though.

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It was good. Actually only had one shift, but and

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it was kind of like a shadowing shift. It was

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pretty cool. I was shadowing a guy named Jack and this, well,

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it's interesting. We're going to talk about the saints that

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are getting canonized today and how to become a saint.

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But these twenty somethings there is I think that you know,

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a lot of people recognize there's been like this breakdown

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in morality for this younger generation. But it seems like

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the twenty somethings have this fire for God. And he

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was he was like, I don't know, he's twenty something,

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he's young, but he's about to enter the military as

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an officer with a degree in aviation. Wants to fly

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fighter jets and bring Christ into the military and like,

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you know, just change some of the darkness of what

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the military can be. And he's just like it was

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a cool experience. He was so sincere, so on fire

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for God. And we talked about Jesus like almost the

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whole time. And you know, part of our job's folding

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towels that people have to It's a very glorious, glorious job,

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you know the word standing there folding towels. And here's

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this young guy telling me about like when he met

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he just met a girlfriend and she works there too,

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and he said, before I even ask her out, I

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went to my car and I prayed about it, and

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I really wanted God's will and I want it to

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have you know, peace, to know is this the right

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what path? And I don't want to date anybody that

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you don't want me to date. And like his obedience

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was so refreshing, and then he like looked at me

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with such sincerity and he said, is there anything I

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can pray for you? For and I was like, wow,

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I was like to go from a job where we

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weren't even allowed to talk about God or mention God's

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name and they actually asked me to take a cross

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off my desk to now I'm seeing I'm just starting

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to see God's plan of all the difficulties and maybe

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all the transition I've been in, even though this job

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doesn't pay a lot. Well, you know, wealth comes in

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all kinds of ways, and there's definitely wealth. And we

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talked about that, Jack and I and he looks just

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like Goose. And it's not just me. This is funny

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from talk to.

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Gun right right.

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I mean I was literally about to say we should

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call you Goose because you know he wants he's about

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to go fly fighter jets. And the girl that, this

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other girl we were working with, she was like, well,

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you know, we all call them Goose. And I'm like, okay,

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so it's it's not just me. She's like no, She's like,

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we all see the connection, so.

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Let's have He has a lot better outcome than Goose

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does though.

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That's what that's why he kind of didn't like the name.

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He's like, I don't really like the way.

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Yeah, his storyline ended, but it was a little short.

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Right, But yeah, that was a good day and I

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worked with some great people who we can talk about God.

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I mean basically get paid to work out and talk

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about God.

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And you know, it's kind of interesting because you know,

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the experts and all that, and they do a this

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the millennial generation is the least going generation. They think

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of American history, we're going to church. But now they're

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kids that Z generation, they think that it's one of

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the most popular generations for going to church. So it's

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almost like that, you know how, like what your parents

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did isn't cool. It's almost like by rebelling against their parents,

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they're going to church exactly.

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Yeah, and we are prophetically everybody's saying that we are

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coming into times of revival, and I really see it.

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I mean even to the point where you know God.

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I was telling you, God has an agenda and he

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with me, with all of us, obviously, but like he

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is being loud and bold, He's not being quiet or

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it's like this agenda is like, Okay, I'm going to

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get you moved in over here. This is an excursion.

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He used the word excursion. So I'm not here permanently,

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I know. But he's like, this is an excursion. I'm

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going to increase your prophetic gifts. I've got an agenda.

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I've got a lot of stuff for you to do,

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and you know this podcast is one of it, one

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of them. And He's like, and we need to get

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you healed. I had dreams last night that were like

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kind of revealing some deep wounds that I've always had

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that he was showing me also some interesting things about

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how I had carried that woundedness into certain relationships and

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how it had affected other people. And the good thing

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is He's shown me how he's he either has healed

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me or he is healing me from those wounds. And

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I think it's it's going on. This is like a

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blanket thing that God's doing for the world right now.

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He's bringing about a revival and a healing and it's

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just crazy. It's just I just see it everywhere. And

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this weekend is a unique weekend for the Catholic Church

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for sure.

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Yes, and let's get to that. It is Saint Sunday.

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I guess you would call it right right. We have

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two saints that were going to be added by the

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Catholic Church and Leo will canonize them. Well about the

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time these people are probably listening to this, so we've

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got to We've got Carlos Acutas and what's one, Pere

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Giorgio Fasati. Yeah, yeah, and so let's start off. You know,

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I think everybody knows, well they're saint and they're holy

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and all that kind of stuff, but nobody knows what

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the process is. So we thought we'd start out by

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just explaining how people somebody becomes a saint.

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Yeah, I mean most Catholics probably don't even know this.

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So okay, So if you've lived an honorable, noble life

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or something like that and people think they're special credit.

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First you have to be dead for five years, kind

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of like going into the Hall of Fame. But the

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thing is the Pope can't waive that they did that

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for John paula second, so you don't have to wait

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for five years. So then what happens is the local

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people from where you're from, like the local bishops and

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all them, they investigate. They want to make sure that

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the candidates life and writings, and they gather testimony from witnesses,

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and they just established that that person had a really

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heroic life and value and all that kind of stuff. Now,

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then the Vatican congregat or Congregation for the Cause of

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Saints they take all that information and if they accept

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it and say, yeah, this person was pretty good, then

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they're called a servant of God and that's what. So

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from then they go to see if they're vulnerable. So

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what happens as a team of theologians, not necessarily all Catholic,

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these are people they go and investigate to see that

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there was there a miracle that was taken place, and

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they have to agree that their life was heroic and

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the Pope declare and venerable after that. So it's little

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more coming.

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Two verified miracles in order for them to be.

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That's coming up. In order to be venerable, you have

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to have one, okay, But in order to be beautified,

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then you have to have that zecond one.

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Okay.

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But if you're a martyr, you don't have to have

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a miracle because you just basically gave your life for

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Godden that that's your miracle. So you can go like that.

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So to get beer beautified, then they basically make sure

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that another miracle happened, and that's when they call you blessed.

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And then after that you go to canonization, and that's

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when the Pope finally takes it all in and says, yes,

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I'm going to canonize them as a saint.

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Cool, very cool.

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So then I was kind of like going, you know what,

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what exactly is a saint? You know what I mean?

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We know they're great and all this kind of stuff.

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So I went through and read some of the quotes

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and this is basically I'll just read them to you

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and let you know. A saint isn't about performing miracles

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or having special gifts. It's about making an ordinary life

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holly by continuing saying yes to God and conforming one's.

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Will to his absolutely. And that's not easy. Yeah.

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Now, saints they live out God's will, not just in

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grand gestures, but in everyday duties of life. So basically

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what they're saying too is a saint it does have

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an exceptional holy life. It's characterized by extraordinary commitment to

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God's will, love God and neighbor, and a consistent practice

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of virtues like helping in obedience. Interesting, So that's basically

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what the Catholic Church says, that's what a saint is.

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And outside of the miracles and extraordinary values on some

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pretty much all of us can actually try.

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And do that, right, Well, we are all called to

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be saints.

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So and there's a father, Mike Schmidtz. I'm going to

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attach a video to him afterwards because he actually with

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the saints coming up, of course, there's a lot of

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people in this congregation. They're asking, you know, how can

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you just become a saint? So he just did this

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a little seven minute video, here's how you can become

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a saint. So that for it, and it's basically what

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I just said. It's pretty much always saying yes to God,

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you know. And he makes a really good point there.

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It's going, well, God came out and he gave you

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the rules. He said, you know, love your father, you know,

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don't gossip, don't lie, don't cheat, don't do adultery and

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all that kind of stuff. And so if you always

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say yes, that means you won't be breaking any of

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the rules he gave you. The only reason you'll ever

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break any of those rules if you say no.

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And that's true, and it really is. I just watched

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the little video from Uniquely Marry I love his channel

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about the mystical experiences that. You know, Carlo had many,

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many mystical experiences from an early age, and his heart

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was just it's really all it comes down to your heart.

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I think if your heart's so pure and so on

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fire and in love with God, you're gonna have the

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mystical experiences because God's going to be and the Blessed

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Mother is going to be, you know, reaching out to you.

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He had an experience well, at nine years old, he

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was crying at a baptism. He was crying because he

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was so upset that people were like focusing on what

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they what they were wearing, or going out to eat afterwards,

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or the cake. And he told his mom he was like,

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people don't understand. He had such deep spiritual awareness, was like,

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people don't understand this erase's original sin. He was like,

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they don't even understand the grace that they're getting right now.

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And he was just in tears, you know, visibly upset

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over it.

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And do you know much about Carlos's background, where he's

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from and stuff.

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No, I don't to be honest, where is he from? Him?

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In both sides they're both from.

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Italy, Italy, but yeah, I don't know exactly where in Italy.

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But I do know. You know, he's known as the

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Saint of the Internet because he used the internet to

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you know, really glorify the Eucharist. But what I didn't

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know until today, all three children from Fatima appeared to him. Well. St. Lucia,

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you know, died and you know, as she was a

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nun and she lived a long life, but shortly after

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her death, she also appeared to him. And Francisco appeared

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to him and asked him to offer sacrifices and penance

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so that people could love and understand the Eucharist. So

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that's actually what inspired him and caused him to create

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this whole internet, you know thing that he did on

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all the miracles of the Eucharist, and he made that

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one of his life's missions.

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Well that's pretty interesting. And he's young.

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Yeah, you know that those three died young. I guess

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maybe those those children are appeared to him because they

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died as children as well. And then our Lady of

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Fatima appeared to him and showed him a vision of

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the world in darkness, and she said the world is

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in darkness because of the disobedience of Christians. And so

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he was really big on saying yes to God and

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being obedient, like you said.

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Always say yes. That's how you'll be a saint, right,

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yes to God, Yes to God.

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He was really disturbed by Hell. So, you know, little

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Dissenta at Fatima, she she agreed to die early and

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to suffer these horrible surgeries that were like botch surgery.

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They were because she saw Hell and she was like

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so disturbed. And his mother had said, Little Carlo just

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kept saying, you know, after that experience with Jasina, he

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had such a fire from wanting to make sure nobody

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went to Hell, and he just kept saying, it's forever forever.

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He's like, can you imagine forever? And he was just

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he was really distraught at the thought that people could

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be separated from God forever.

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Yeah, so when it comes like these scenes we talked

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about basically saying yes and a lot of the scenes.

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Obviously they have to perform miracles and everything. But do

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you think that they were born that way with that

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special gift or do you think that it's their inner

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faith in God that allowed God to work through them.

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I think they had a calling. I mean, I think

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God already knows the plan for our life. I think

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he already knew that Carlo would die young, and you

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know George, for Saty would die young as well, like

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both of them. I think he knows our story, so

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he starts pouring the graces onto us early on. That's

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what I think, because from the from a very early age,

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they talked about how Carlo was just different. He wanted

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to be in front of the Eucharist all the time.

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He wanted to be an adoration all the time. Even

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as a child, a young boy, he did so. And

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you know his parents weren't doing that, right, I mean,

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his parents were just normal Catholics going to church. So

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I don't know, I think there's this I think there's

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a grace that God pours out onto you to fulfill

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his purposes.

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Actually yeah, no, I don't want to compare him to

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him to don't get me right on that comparing him,

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but just kind of an easy way out, like John

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the Baptist. You know, he was basically born this is

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going to be your lot in life, right, Yeah.

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And he didn't complain that he was in the wilderness

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being raised by wolves and bears, like he's like, Okay,

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this is just this is what I'm doing.

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Yeah, No, faciety he's kind of an interesting guy. He's

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he's the saint of what is he the scene.

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Of university Catholic. He's the patron saint for all you know,

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all the all the college kids.

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Basically, yeah, and he was a really acting I mean,

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he was just kind of an average dude. I mean

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he was kind of like, you know, okay, he was

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like an average student. Nothing great, but dude was a

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great athlete. Loved climbing mountains, he loved swimming and all

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that kind of stuff. But one thing was he was

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really worked hard with kids to help them up. Even

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though he wasn't a great student, he really instilled that

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in it. And he really worked with the poor a lot,

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even though he didn't have a lot of money. And

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that was him. And then he ended up he didn't

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tell anybody. He was like, man, I don't feel good. Well,

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his grandmother had died, and so he didn't tell, you know,

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he didn't want to overshow grandma. And then after she

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died in the funeral and all that kind of stuff,

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he just collapsed. Found out that he'd been for a

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long time. He'd actually been he had it. I don't

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know the technical term, but basically Polio, you know, was

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tearing him up and all that kind of stuff. So

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he ended up dying like that. And it's kind of

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interesting that he died in about nineteen thirties. This in

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over in Italy. You know, that wasn't a good time.

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That was Mussolini and the fascism and all that kind

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of stuff, and all the local people started saying, man,

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you you don't understand how great this guy was. Man.

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He helped us, he helped the poor, He put everybody

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in front of him, and so they started investigating him.

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And then of course with Mussolini bassism, you know whoa oh,

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so then it kind of got shot and then they've

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actually built the tomb for him and everything over there.

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In nineteen eighty nine, Pope John Paul the Second he

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had heard about him and went over to his tomb,

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and that's when he said he had the enabled the

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man of eight beautitudes. Can you explain that?

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Well? I don't know which eight he said were there.

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I should know that he was.

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Called the man of eight beautities. I mean he just

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give us like three.

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I know the and I used to pronounce that. I

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think it's beatitudes, the attitude be attitudes. Yeah, but it's

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you know, like it's all the blesseds that Matthew list, like,

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blessed are the poor in spirit, Blessed are the peacemakers.

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Blessed are those who thirst for justice, and for they

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shall be fulfilled. It's all those things like thirst for justice,

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poor and spirit, the peacemakers, Blessed are the pure of heart.

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But that I shall see the face of God. That's four.

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So Pope John Ball the second, basically he knew what

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he was. He was pretty holy. I mean, obviously he's

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the same, So I mean he was able to identify

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with this guy and so Fasati. Then he got the

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whole saintanthood thing back in the in the loop for Faciety.

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But unlike Carlos, no one was alive to testify for Fasaeti,

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so they had to do a lot more research and

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everything like that. So then now he's just getting sant

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it today. But he get this, you know where she said,

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he's basically in charge of all the kids going to

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school and all that kind of stuff. Think y'all know

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about World Youth Day. It travels around the planet and

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all the kids get there and all that kind of stuff.

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Twice now twice in twenty eight and twenty sixteen in Sydney, Australia,

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and in twenty and the other one who's Warsaw Poland.

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They actually took his remains out of his tomb over

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in Turin, Italy and took him over to those World

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Youth days.

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And when didn't they find that, like he had not decomposed.

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Is that is that like part of it.

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I don't think they wanted to go in that much

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detail about you know, they just wanted you to know

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that they it was so special for him to be

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around kids that they actually took his took his remains

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and said, okay, he's there too.

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Yeah, so special for kids to be around him too.

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I'm sure that created some kind of a holiness. But yeah,

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there are there are eight b attitudes and so I

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guess you know, Pope John Paul was saying, he exemplified

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all eight. That's pretty amazing.

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Kind of hard. That'd be like hitting a thousand in baseball.

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Yeah right, yeah, I mean, it's it's what we should

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all strove for for sure. So it's a very inspiring weekend,

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very very great time to be Catholic. We've got a

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new Pope first, this is going to be the first

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two saints that he canonizes as a pope. And interesting connection.

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Carlo went to high school. His his you know, he

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died young, so he didn't go to college. His high

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school that he was attending was Pope Leo the thirteenth

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and that is the name of the inspiration for why

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our current pope took is now Pope Leo the fourteenth.

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That is really Yeah, that's pretty cool, and it's kind

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of like it's just interesting. I mean, so young and

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how quick he got through and all this kind of stuff.

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I don't know if you've seen pictures of it. And

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they have a tomb of him too, I don't know

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if you call it a tomb, but his grave said

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his parents are still alive and they're not even like

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old grandparents looking like And to imagine to walk up

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to your.

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Kids tomb, Yeah, and.

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All of a sudden and known that he's seen it,

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that would be almost surreal.

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That that would be so hard to lose a child,

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but I guess that would at least be some kind

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of comfort and consolation to know your child is being

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made a saint. So but yeah, it's just so so incredible.

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His life was so incredible. He did predict his own

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death at age nine as well. He said, I'm going

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to die of a brain hemorrhage, and he did so.

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He had a lot of insight and a lot of

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just mystical encounters with Jesus and the Blessed Mother.

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Yes, it's a fun weekend and we're going to attach it.

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We're not doing a really good job of explaining these

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guys to it because we're gonna let the experts do it.

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So if you go to the show notes for today,

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we're going to get you on the people who can

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actually tell you all about them and all that kind

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of stuff.

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So yeah, I'll think also the link for the mystical

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video that had all these experiences that even the Fatima

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stuff that he experienced was especially because these times were

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in and you know that's our show, like these times

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and and what Mary predicted at Fatima is these times,

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and and for just for him to have experienced all

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the all the children of Fatima and their urgings, and

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he carried out everything that they all had to request

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that they made of him, and he fulfilled all the

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requests before he died.

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So in your mind, do you think there's a time

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in your life where you could have I don't know,

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maybe he did, but you think you could if they

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were going over your life right now, that you could

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have possibly performed a miracle.

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I don't think I had any like, Not to my

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knowledge have I had any like major miracles. But I

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would guess God has definitely used me, Like I said,

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you know, I think I mentioned on one show that

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a lady I worked with didn't commit suicide because of

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like having seen my faith play out in front of

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her eyes and some of the struggles I've been through

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over the last couple of years.

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So that's a miracle, right, Yeah, I mean it doesn't

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be world famous, right.

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What about you? Do you have any well, you know, I.

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Don't know if I'm the result of it or not,

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but I did date a girl who ended up getting

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hooked on prescription drugs and about to lose her kids

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and all kinds of stuff, and basically for me going on,

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I don't want a part of this. You know, she

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quit drugs not just for me, but to help, you know,

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keep her kids. And so then she ended up. It

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wasn't an ugly breakup or anything, but we kind of

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went our separate ways and all that, and then I

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found out like, not her, but she was living a

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clean life again. But one of her daughters I think

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is really special and I think that that might be

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a miracle I contributed to is that when that daughter

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becomes such a great birth.

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That's awesome. Yeah, that's definitely. I mean, we probably all

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I've heard it said, you know, and we can only speculate,

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but I've heard it said that when we die, we

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go through a life review and that we will see

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a ripple effect of everything that we've done wrong and

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everything that we've done right. Basically, so you see, like,

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you know that one person you were rude to, you

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were in a bad mood, and you didn't you know,

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maybe you didn't treat them as good. Maybe they went

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on to the next person and their feelings were her,

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and maybe they didn't smile at the next person they

477
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met because you kind of put them in a bad mood.

478
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So you see this ripple effect, But then you also

479
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see it in reverse, which I think is really cool.

480
00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:50.839
My mom actually came to me in a dream after

481
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she died and showed me this and said that she

482
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was amazed, totally blown away at the ripple effect her

483
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life had had because my mom was a very loving,

484
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warm carrying, passionate person, and you know, I give a

485
00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.200
lot of her characteristics. Actually, I told her thank you yesterday.

486
00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:09.759
She was a fighter too. I was like, thank you

487
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.880
for making me a fighter. I got that from you.

488
00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.039
But yeah, she says she was amazed at the ripple

489
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effect that her life has. She worked with special needs

490
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.480
children and she was just always there for anybody who

491
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:23.759
needed her, and so she got to see how that

492
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.759
played out. I think the ripple effect idea is pretty cool.

493
00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:28.480
We need to remember that when we think that we're

494
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only like maybe influencing that one person that we're interacting

495
00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:35.279
with right now, but that ripple effect goes so much

496
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:37.519
broader than everything else that we think.

497
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:39.880
You know, I like riplefflick better because I know they

498
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.839
have butter butterfly wings. You've heard of that one, right, Yeah,

499
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.240
little butterfly wings not going to do anything. But then

500
00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.640
you get away from it, and then the air current

501
00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.599
other than is actually causing something. I like ripple flick better, right, because.

502
00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:54.279
You can visualize that better because you can like see

503
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:57.519
the stone going into the the lake, yeah, in the water,

504
00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.000
and then you see it. It is a ripple effect.

505
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.799
No, only that, basically the ripple effected. And then how

506
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:05.039
big a rock you're throw in too?

507
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:08.319
Right? And actually, what's coming to my that's true, the

508
00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.039
bigger of the rock. I've never heard anybody until I

509
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.200
was just, you know, watching that video on Carlow when

510
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.759
they said that Mary put her immaculate heart in him,

511
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.119
that she gave him her immaculate heart. Why had that

512
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:24.079
same experience when I met? It was a couple of

513
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.160
years ago, right after my husband and I had split

514
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:28.359
up and I had I needed a new house, like

515
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:31.440
I need to see a nutritionist. My nervous systems messed up,

516
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.599
I'm not sleeping, and it was pretty this was a miracle.

517
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:36.400
I was watching this show, the only show that I

518
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:39.480
could watch was this HGTV show, and there was this

519
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.400
nutritionist on it in California, and I was saying, I

520
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.839
just felt drawn to her and I wasn't sure why.

521
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.039
And then the next few episodes I watch, turns out

522
00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.400
she's devout Catholic. And then she's like, I'm actually leaving California.

523
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.559
I'm moving to Tennessee. And so I looked her website

524
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.920
up and she was living you know twenty minutes for me.

525
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.839
I emailed her and she did doesn't even take one

526
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.799
on one clients, because this lady's like writing books with

527
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.960
Carrie Underwood and on nutrition and she's she's got a

528
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.519
big following and she just does online zoom calls. But

529
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.480
she was like, yeah, I'll take you on. She goes

530
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:14.960
every every October. God brings me about four Catholic women

531
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.640
and I take them on and one on one. She

532
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.960
gave me her address and I went to her house

533
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.880
and she laid out a nutrition plan for me, and

534
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.039
she was like, but I always view everything as mind,

535
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:28.680
body spirit. You can't just approach it from a food

536
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.440
point of view. That's great, we can get your body

537
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.680
more stable, but you need to like she gave me

538
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.039
a meditation to do every night called the Listening Prayer,

539
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.720
which actually really helped me start hearing God's voice better.

540
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.519
And it's like a journaling kind of meditation where you

541
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.319
int the Holy Spirit in, which was pretty cool, but

542
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.759
she does. She did it with me to kind of

543
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:52.279
demonstrate to me how it worked, and she sees visions

544
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.880
and she's like, so while we were doing it, it

545
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.640
was just crazy, like Jesus put his sacred heart in me,

546
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:02.480
and what's surprise was Mary immediately joined it with her

547
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.240
maculate heart, and I kind of I didn't have any words,

548
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.079
but I kind of looked at Mary like kind of

549
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.039
like why, and she was like, well, they can't be

550
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:13.200
separated anywhere. His sacred heart is my macular heart's going

551
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:15.839
to be and they can't be separated. And Kara saw

552
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.279
the same vision. Now we were silent during this meditation,

553
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.960
but when we came out of it, she was like, wow,

554
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.799
I've never seen that before, and she had seen the

555
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.440
same thing. And then when I left there that day,

556
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.079
it was the weirdest feeling. I felt like a click

557
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.599
into place. That's that's the only way I can describe it.

558
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.759
Like I was walking down her stairs going to my car,

559
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.519
and it felt like everything in my body had been

560
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.200
slightly off, and like you know when you're tightening up

561
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.960
and you just I think about your gas cap when

562
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.440
you get gas and you and then the last few

563
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.400
times you know, just like clicks into place. And so

564
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:50.359
it's like I felt that click, click, click, and it's

565
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.799
just like my body and my soul clicked into place.

566
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.559
So I don't know, I don't think I'm going to

567
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.039
die young or die saying or anything like that. But

568
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.680
I definitely do do understand like having a heart for

569
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.359
I think I do. I do think. I crowd the

570
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.559
whole time I watched this video, like I could understand

571
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:08.680
like having a heart for people.

572
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:12.119
You know, we I think we could all aspire to

573
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.000
be Saints, you know, I mean, we know we'll probably

574
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.920
fall short obviously, otherwise I don't think we're going to

575
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:22.519
have a people inquiry into our lives after we go, right,

576
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:24.599
but I think if we get aspired to it, Like

577
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.359
this is actually kind of jockey, but I didn't. I

578
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.160
know you're not a big sportsman. But have you heard

579
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.000
of the legendary football coach Lombardy.

580
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.039
I have. I have heard of him. I don't know

581
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:35.640
anything about him, but I have heard of him.

582
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.960
Well, he has a quote and he said, we can

583
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.599
never achieve excellence, but if we change, if we chase excellence,

584
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:43.599
we can achieve, we can achieve greatness.

585
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:46.279
I love that. Yeah, that's good.

586
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.160
That's kind of like how we just take that from

587
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.799
football into life and then into you know, Okay, you're

588
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.079
never going to be a perfect Saints, but if you

589
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:55.559
go for it, you're s You're gonna end up being

590
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:56.079
pretty good.

591
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.039
Right. That's that's a great that's a great quote. And

592
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.279
I feel like that kind of is why God's showing

593
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:03.960
me a lot of things in my life that need healing.

594
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.960
Like He's given me a heart to want his will.

595
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.119
I guess that's the first starting point, is like you

596
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.680
got to want his will and then then he starts

597
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.920
to show you and heal you, kind of like that

598
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:16.799
video we did last week where you know, he was

599
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:19.799
asking the woman who died questions and it was a

600
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.880
it's a gentle, loving thing. It's not like he's showing me, Oh,

601
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.799
here's how messed up you are. You know, He's like,

602
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.960
this is why you're so screwed up and how you've

603
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.559
harmed your relationships that He's like showing me that a

604
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.039
loving way. Here's some really deep wounds you have and

605
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:37.480
how I'm helping you heal them.

606
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:38.599
That's cool.

607
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:39.599
Yeah.

608
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.200
I think for our next show, I think I'm going

609
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.720
to surprise everybody. I think I have something you might

610
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.160
even surprise you too. Oh okay, we'll tease it out there.

611
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.960
So okay, well, thank you all. Enjoy this Saint Sunday.

612
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.799
I think it's it's kind of a cool day. I mean,

613
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.119
maybe you can. I'm sure. I know EWTN is going

614
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:57.440
to be showing it, but I don't think any of

615
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.000
us want to get up at like three or four

616
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.000
in the morning to watch it.

617
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.880
Yeah, I'm sure they'll be replaying it though throughout the day.

618
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.079
I'm sure you'll be able to find it on YouTube.

619
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:07.480
Yeah, that's for sure. So if you don't want to

620
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.480
watch the Saints. Yeah, it's the first weekend at football too, so.

621
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.680
That's a big weekend, big to be Catholic, big weekend

622
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:16.599
for sports fans.

623
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:21.759
I know. See I've notre damed it, right right, all right, Well,

624
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.440
thank you all for celebrating Saint Sunday with us all

625
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.440
and thanks for joining us for another episodes of These

626
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.839
Days with Jeff and Steph. And here's hoping that you

627
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:29.680
don't lose hope

628
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:31.960
And just remember we are all in it together.