Oct. 25, 2025
We set the record straight on what non-Catholics think Catholics believe. And have fun with some mysticism.
Whether its Mary or the Saints, non-Catholics believe Catholics worship them. We know it is not true, and there are a lot of other false assertions on what Catholics believe, so we explain the truth. We also have fun letting Catholics know some things they might not about what the church does believe.
You can read Stephanie blog on her YouTube channel - In the Service of the Queen - where she talks about the blessed Mary https://www.youtube.com/@InTheServiceOfTheQueen
You can catch Jeff on numorous podcasts https://coolcasts.cooolmedia.com/
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Waiting the day night sounds.
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I'm gotta get to the star bugs, get some magic,
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be on my way, magical as was my lone. You
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don't know, there's no for that today.
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Well, hello everyone, and welcome to these days. I'm Jeff
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and we're gonna talking about Stephane. We're gonna be talking
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about these days by a Catholic perspective, steph Hower. Things
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out in Tennessee old today.
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It's a little chili. I mean it's a pretty fall day,
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but a little too chilly for me. How are things
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up there in Colorado?
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Same? It's just it's fall now, so I mean, there's
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it is what it is. I mean it's this is
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a really nice day. I mean we've had about three
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days with just bad win. So today it's upper sixties,
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no wind. I'll take it.
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Yeah, I'll take it. I actually did get to go
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read my book outside and I just had to find
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a patch of sun because like, if you're in the sun,
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it feels pretty good, but if you're in the sheade,
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it's pretty chilly.
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Yeah, but it's not a surprise. I've kind of figured out.
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It does this every year.
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It does do this every year. You're a smart guy smart,
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and you know what.
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I also think. I'm pretty sure, I'm confident about it's
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gonna get colder. It's gonna get colder before it gets warmer.
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I think you're probably right about that. Yeah, so I
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got to brace myself because I don't like the cold weather.
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No, but I guess there's always the ying and the
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yang and the good and the bad. And if you
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want the warm, you have to have the cold right right, and.
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You have to have you know, it makes you appreciate,
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it makes you appreciate the spring to have the winter.
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So I guess you yeah, I guess it makes it. Yeah,
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I don't know. I'm kind of thinking that now that
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I'm getting older. I had a those tropical climates where
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it's just nice all the year round, but it's still nice.
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That's all the retired people moved to Florida and they're like,
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just give me the sunshine all year. Yeah.
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I don't know if I want to want to do that, though,
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but I don't. I'm kind of lazy. I don't like moving.
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I don't like either.
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I don't want have moved twice every year, every spring
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and every fall. I like going to college again.
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I know, I'm with you. I'm with you there.
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So you have anything fun happening out there in Tennessee.
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Well, so yesterday was Poke John Paul the second Speace stay,
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which was so this will be airing, you know, a
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couple of days later. But yesterday, while we're recording, this
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was the twenty second. So I's Pope John Paul Speece day.
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And what is amazing to me? So I get up
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yesterday morning, walked to the bathroom and there is I
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have a necklace with his picture on it. And it's
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like a color picture. It's not like a one of
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these metals you know that's like gold or silver. It's
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a color picture of him and my priest friend that
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married me and my husband. He went to Poland right after,
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not long after we got married, and he brought us back.
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He blessed them, and he brought us back these poked
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On Paul necklaces from Poland. Anyway, so it's been sitting
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up there because I never I don't wear it. I
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wear my Maraulous medal every day. But I had never
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in all my years of having necklaces, gotten up to
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find one on the floor. Never. And I go in
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the bathroom and his necklace is on the floor, and
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I think, huh, that's strange. And I mean, I've been
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doing this long enough, I know, right, I'm like, okay,
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Pope John Pa, I'm like what. And I do call
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on him a lot and I do ask him for
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intercession a lot, and I love him. So I'm like,
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what are you trying to tell me about today? I'm
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like okay. So I kind of just said, okay, we'll
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see what happens. I put it back up and then
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it wasn't long after that my friend called me and
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she's like, well, you know, today's his feast stay and
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I was like, I had no idea, but that was
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pretty cool. So I did. I did get to go
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to mass on his feast day and kind of talk
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to him and I don't know, he's got he's got
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something up his sleeve helping me out in my life.
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I'm not sure what exactly it, but that was kind
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of a cool thing.
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Well, you have to go to mass if you wake
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up and his necklaces on the floor.
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It's right, and he's telling me you better get your
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bad to mask today.
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Stefanie Gray, you know, and yeah, that's one of the
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topics about today is things that Catholics don't even realize
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that they whether they believe it or not. You know,
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they're kind of getting mixed with They hear the procedent
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and say that, oh, this is what Catholics believe, and
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so then they actually think that that's what the Catholic
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Church believes in, but they don't believe it, right, A'm
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not making any sense. Yeah, certain things that let's just say, worldwide,
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even Catholics, there are some things that just aren't true.
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For instance, that the Catholic Church that they basically worship
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saints and Mary and that kind of thing, and they
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don't understand about the intercession part.
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Right, Yeah, and I heard recently somebody say something so
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so go logical about that. They're like, if you even
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ask somebody to pray for you, literally, if you ask
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your friend to pray for you, you're asking for their intercession.
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So who better to ask for their intercession than the
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Mother of God who, no matter how much you love her,
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you'll never love her as much as Jesus did.
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Well no, no, then they said that, well, you just
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worshiped Mary, no, we ask for her intercession? All you
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pray to her? Well, if you listen to the prayer.
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It says right towards the beginning, pray for us. It's
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not saying it now in.
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The hour of our death. And I can't tell you
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how many people and mystics have seen the demons that
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show up at the moment of your death to get you.
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And if you're in a weak state, they might. You know,
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people don't realize. We'll get into that later. But how
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fragile salvation is. And if your blessed mother is there
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what she gave us on the cross, If Mary's there
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at the moment of your death, which she promises to be,
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for everybody who's had a devotion, who's prayed to ros
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who's prayed the Rosary on a daily basis, Well, the
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demons aren't going to come near you. I'll tell you
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that they're not coming near you.
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Mary's there, had this one I wouldn't come a friend
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and we went to high school together, we played football together,
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but then we haven't seen each other since high school.
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And then of course with Facebook, you connect with all
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these people you haven't seen in thirty forty years. Right,
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And he is actually he's Protestant, but he is really
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he's borders on Catholic beliefs. You know that you know,
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if you're raised one way and even though you're kind
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of being stretched the other way, If that makes any sense,
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He's kind of right. He kind of follows the Catholic doctrine,
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but he still defends his products anyway, he has all
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these Well, he was one time he was we were
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typing back and forth and he said, well, you know,
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I've sent basically the same discussion, like no, we do
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not worship the Saints and all this kind of stuff.
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And he said, well, supposedly, if the Catholic Church formed anything,
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the original guys in the Catholic Church, they didn't pray
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the saints. And I go, because they were the first saints.
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Who are they supposed to pray to?
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That's a good point.
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And he goes, well yeah, but yeah, and he goes, well,
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they didn't pray to the people in the Bible go
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because they were Jews. Why wouldn't the new Catholics or
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the new Christians be praying to the old Jews?
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Right?
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Well, so he goes, well, let's change subjects because you
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got me on that one.
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And yeah, And people didn't realize the definition of saying
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is just somebody who we know for sure is in heaven.
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So you know, there's my friend, my priest friend. Once
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he said, well, he goes. They talk about, you know,
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we're all called to be saints, we're all called to
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get to heaven obviously. And you know, if only I
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said that to one of my YMCA guys the other day,
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I said, you know, the only people in heaven are
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saints and angels. He was like really, I'm like, yeah,
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I don't think people understand what the definition of a
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saint is. I'm like, this, being a saint means you
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made it to heaven, that's all it means. And of
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course the angels never left heaven because there's spirit. They
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were never humans.
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So well, not only that, when you read the Bible,
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I mean, it doesn't matter what denomination you are, you're
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going to be reading it's they're going to be we're
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praying to the saints, you know, and they bring up
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saints and all that kind of stuff.
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Yeah, And the Creed, which was made in the what
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first or third century, it says we believe in the
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Holy Catholic Church. The Communion of Saints is right there
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in the Creed. I think that's third century. But that's
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pretty early on.
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Since we're already talking about JP two. That's sacrilegious to
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calling GP two.
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I think, so that's cool now, I think it sounds cool.
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We have a high school here called that GP two.
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Uh huh, that is cool. But anyway, on his birthday
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back in nineteen ninety two, he had to take one
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for the team. See everybody out there, they thinks, well,
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the Catholics are so strict. They they're total creationists. You know,
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they're science deniers, they're flat earthers and all this kind
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of stuff. They don't realize that the whole Big Bank
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theory was brought together by a Belgian priest.
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Yeah, it was a Belgian priest that came up with it,
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and that is the accepted theory to this day for
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what astrophysicists or whatever, physics people, big bang theory people,
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Sheldon kind of people that, you know, that's what I
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think of. But yeah, it's still the accepted theory that
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the universe was created from one big bang, which a
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priest came up with.
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Well, and it makes sense because what was the first
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thing God did? He spoke it into existence, So yeah,
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he was now former I don't know what he would
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have said, but okay, go the boom.
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Yeah, it's like if God speaks something, it's so powerful
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that bam and all the matter kind of explodes and
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it just you know, starts to form its still around
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around his vision.
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But the Catholics, so they did have a little bit
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of trouble there in embracing science. I guess you would
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call it. See back when Galileo. You know that Galileo
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was the famous astronomer. Yes, well back in the day
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he was teaching that the Earth revolved around the Sun. Well,
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the Catholic Church thought everything revolved around the Earth, so
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they didn't like that, so they brought ol Galileo in.
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You know, he was in front, he was in Italy,
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and he said, what's this your teaching about? And they said, well, okay,
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that means you get sentenced to death. So Galileo he
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really quick said, I was kidding, man. Everybody knows you know,
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that was joking. That's not true, and all kinds of things,
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and he goes, that's I don't know who told you that. No,
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everybody knows that the earth or the Sun revolves around
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the Earth. So they said, well, we don't believe you
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but we're gonna just we're not going to kill you,
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but you have to live the rest of your life
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under house arrest, and you can't teach her write ever again.
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So Gallas said, okay, just quit beating me, So is
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it all right? So he lived in there eight years
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and then he died just a natural cause, and all
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this well, what year was that? Three hundred and fifty
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nine years before nineteen ninety two? Okay, because on John
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Paul's birthday in nineteen ninety two, three hundred and fifty
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nine years after he died, Bob Don Paul had to
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take it for the team, Like I said, he went
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out and admitted and he apologized that Galileo was right. Yep,
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the earth does revolve around the sun. We're sorry. We
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should have never mistreated him, and we should have never
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sentenced them to house arrest.
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Poor Pope John Paul, and he didn't even do it.
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popes throughout through and you know, the churches. The church
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was created by Jesus Christ, but it doesn't mean the
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people involved in it are never perfect, so exactly, and
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that's any church, whether you're a Baptists or not denominational.
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You're never got perfect people in any church.
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Yeah, but then everybody thinks that the Catholic Church are
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so strict on you know, that kind of thing. But
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