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Welcome to history and factor is about today. I am Jeff.
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Now today's show is really interesting and it might help
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you are someone that you know a lot out. See,
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we're going to talk all about ADHD, so see if
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you have it or not, or if someone you know
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or love has it. So we brought in an ADHD guru, Steve.
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Why don't you introduce yourself.
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Hey, there, Jeff, great to be here. How my name
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is Steve August. I'm talking to you from Portland, Oregon.
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We're having a lovely autumn. And yeah, so my story
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is that I'm a lifelong entrepreneur and it turned out
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that I also had ADHD my whole life, but didn't
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really find out until I was fifty four years old.
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And there's a lot of a lot of attention on
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it right now, I mean partly because our current social
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media driven, algorithm driven society makes everybody feel a bit ADHD.
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But it really is interesting. The more I learned about
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it and understood how it worked in the different ways
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that it works, the more I understood myself. As somebody
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I said the other day, it's like getting the It
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was like getting the blueprints to the house I lived in.
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My whole life. And for those of you who may
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not be familiar with what ADHD means, it's attention deficit
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and hyperactivity disorder. And what you should probably know about
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that is that it's not a very helpful name for
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what they term a disorder, and it's really just a
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way that a brain brains work a little differently. And
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now the classic of the classic vision or the visual
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of a ADHD person is like a young kid usually
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avoid bouncing off the walls and not being able to
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pay attention to anything or sit still. But really what
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it is is it's not so much an attention deficit.
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It's act almost like a surplus. Is that our brains
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are paying attention to a lot of things, and we
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have a challenge of putting our focus where we want
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it to be when we want it to be. So
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it's not really a deficit. It's more of an executive
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function type of thing. So, and what happens is for
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a lot of folks is that we ADHD brains tend
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to be often really good at at ideating and creating
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and learning because it's very dopamine driven. So they've ascribed
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ADHD brains to having lower levels of two important transmitters
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dopamine and nore epinephrine, and it just changes a bit
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of how our brain kind of works. And so and
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what happens is like the part of our brains that
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are really good at like paying attention thing and ideating
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and learning and knowing, and we get a lot of
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dopamine out of novelty. And these types of things are
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couple with the part of our brain that is the
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executive function, part of the brain that helps us organize
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and prioritize and start and not get distracted. Like that
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part of our brain is less powerful. So as doctor Hallowell,
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who wrote the book ADHD two point oho goes describe it,
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it's like having a Ferrari brain with bicycle breaks. And
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so what happens is is for especially for a lot
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of adults, is that we get into the situation where
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we know a lot, and we have a lot of skills,
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and we have a lot of things that we have
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to offer, and yet we have a hard time actually
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doing those things and making those things happen. And that creates,
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you know, a really can be very challenging mentally. And
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so what I do is help people, especially specifically entrepreneurs,
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people running businesses because ADHD brains tend to want to
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often start businesses or feel like they've got so much
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creativity and have a struggle working in a very rigid,
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routine environment that they often do start businesses. And so
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they're really good at parts of it in terms of
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being able to come up with ideas and and and
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be creative, but the execution side of things becomes a challenge,
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and so I've created systems and communities to help people
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do that. So I have a course called Your Weekly
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OS that helps people have a really amazing week in
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making progress with ADHD and making the things happen they
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want to have happen. And then I have a program
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called ADHD Entrepreneur Accelerator, which is a community specifically for
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ADHD entrepreneurs and it's a great group of people who
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are ADHD brands and can be exactly who they are
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and make and we work with each other and support
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each other and create an amazing progress and actually make
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all those brilliant ideas and things and schemes that we
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come up with happen. So that's uh, yeah, that's the
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that's my story, and I'm really happy to be here.
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Cool. So adult DHD. Do you have it the entire
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time and you just don't get it till later or
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does it develop later on in life.
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No, generally, it's there the whole time, right, it's genetic.
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It's passed genetically. And a lot of adults get diagnosed
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because their kid has it and then they go in
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and watch they see the diagnostic or hear the diagnostic
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the kids going through and they're like, wait, I do that.
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I have that?
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And what's interesting is that, you know, I was never
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hyper as a kid, and so that was something that
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I learned is that hyperactivity isn't always part of the deal.
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And there's like like three types that they describe. There's
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the there is hyperactive ADHD, and there's in a tent
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of IDEOHD. These are people who are more like daydreamers
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and spinners in their in their mind and that was
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definitely me. And then there's people who are combined to
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have both both types. And what happens, uh, And what
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happened for me is like as we go through our
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adult life, if we haven't been diagnosed, but we are
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having it work actually paying an ADHD tax the whole
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time that things are taking us harder, taking us longer.
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We have to work harder to make certain things happen
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to focus, and especially as we age, like early in
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our lives when we're in twenties and thirties and in
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our forties where we have energy to like to kind
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of like grind through. But as we age sometimes it
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just sort of drops. And especially for women who hit
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perimenopause and you know, post post child, having children and
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menopause and just hormonal changes like those things affect executive function.
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So it's really more of an executive function the type
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of thing. But it's not something that generally develops over time,
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something that's been in the whole time and you've just
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learned to compensate over it until a point where you're like, oh,
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I run out of gas and that burnout and I
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can't compensate anymore. So and that's when you know, getting
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a diagnosis and you know there's there are medications that
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can work, and some people use medications to good effect
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and some people don't and to good effect. And it
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really becomes this this way of thinking of understanding, like
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I look to think of it, is it just a
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different brain type. We need all types of brains to
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make the world go around, and an ADHD brain type
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has some really amazing strengths and it has some really
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interesting challenges. Just like anything else in life, we work
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with a you know, take advantage of the strengths and
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and mitigate the challenges to get where we want to go.
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Well, that is really interesting. I've got a lot of
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questions now coming up. First, do you know what we're
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going to celebrate today?
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Hmm? I think it's a really good fall holiday.
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I bet, I think so.
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Oh we're going do you have a apple side?
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Yesterday is National Apple Ciderday. An apple cider fan.
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A lot of apples, but it's a very seasonal like
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kind of like like if you ask me in in
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July fourth like I don't want you. I don't own
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apple cider with my fireworks, but I do want to
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unify with with my Halloween candy.
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There you go. Now, apple cider. It goes way back.
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It goes back to about three thousand BC. It was
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actually created better celts over in England. Now, the only
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apples they had back there in England they were crab apples. No,
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not the best, so it was pretty bitter. But then
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in fifty five BC, the Romans they invented England. Now
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they kind of liked that apple cider, but they said
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those crab apples had to go. So the Romans started
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bringing in their own apple trees. So the good thing
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was that apple cider was a lot better. The bad thing, Oh,
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if they're planting trees, they ain't leaving your country.
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Yeah, well it's a you know, another another thing. And
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you know, if you recall money Python's Life of Brian
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where there's that that that moment where they're saying, what
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have the Romans ever done for us? And I think
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we have to add apple cider there you do that list.
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Now it's a lot better. Yeah, okay, now not the
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hard cider. Okay, but you're right on your apple sider.
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It's actually pretty healthy for you.
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Yeah imagine. So yeah, I think it's so flavorful. It
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just it just it just really makes you think about
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fall and and uh that season and the comfort of it.
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Love it.
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Yeah, it's just like you said, there's a comforting kind
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of brings comfort to you and everything. So I don't know
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if anybody out there has a little girl or a
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little girls at home, but day is also a National
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Princess Day too. Wow, Hey, instead of having tea, I
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guess you can serve apple ciders today.
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Yeah, that that you could. You could merge the holidays
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and uh, you know, just up the up your observation
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game so you can have your your your princess apple
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cider party.
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All right, let's see it going on an entertainment on November
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the eighteenth. Let's back in nineteen eighty five. The number
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one album was the Miami Vice soundtracked Starship at the
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number one song with We Built This City. Gary Morris
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had the number one country song with I'll Never Stop
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Loving You. I'm not a Memphis on a fast moving
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dreams common now some trump didding Western the fast Lane,
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but I'll never stopping. The number one book was The
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Mammoth Hunters by Gen m I top movie list King
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Solomon's mind. That's where Richard Chamberlain he hooks up with
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Sharon Stone and they try and find her father in
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the wilds of nineteen hundreds Africa. Okay, now, Steve, you
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actually have a test that we can take, and I
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actually went on there. So if you're wondering, if you know,
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do I have ahd adhd or do I have symptoms
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or you know, like that he gives you a free
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test you can take to help help you out. So
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I scored a fifteen and a sixteen on your quiz,
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So that puts me just a little bit there. There
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are some truths and I kind of thought, well, okay,
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the big ones that hit me when you talk about
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at the end of the day, you just can't look
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back and go, man, where did that day? Why didn't
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they get anything done? And where you're bridged with new
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ideas all day long. You know, you'll start working and say,
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oh man, this would be a cool project in this
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cool building. But then when you started talking about the
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three different types of ADDHD, then I think, well, that
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might raise my score up quite a bit. Ever since
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I've been a little kid, I've been a daydreamer and
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I'm fifty eight and I'm still a big time daydreamer.
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Yeah, it's it's really interesting. It sounds like you scored
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sort of middle of the scale, but on a stronger likelihood.
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And again that assessment does incorporate one of the self
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reported assessments that that doctors use. Of course, isn't an
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official undiagnosis, but it is an interesting directional thing. And yeah,
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there is Yeah, the daydreaming and certain aspects of it.
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It's it's a spectrum, so some things might jump out
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more and some things might jump out less.
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you said, little boys, the hyperwes, they're the ones who
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are given the drugs and all that kind of stuff.
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Is that bad for him in the long run?
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You know, it really depends. You know. Uh, I'm not
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a doctor, so I can't, like, you know, offer medical advice.
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But I think there is a balance, right if there
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is medication and neurochemistry is so individualized like i've, you know,
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just being transparent like i've i've you know, the main
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first line of drugs that they give are stimulants like
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adderall and ridlin, and that what that does is it
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helps kind of kind of accelerates all parts of the brain.
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It makes all parts of the brain actor so that
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you get enough executive function to go along with everything else.
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But it's a really it can be a real roller
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coaster ride, and it can work for a while and
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then stop working, and there can also be some some
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side effects. So it's really a very much a very
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individual thing, and there's always a balance with medications. In
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terms of you know, being able to live your life
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versus whatever side effects, because there's never any medications without
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side effects. Right. So so my takeaway, you know, what
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I would invite people to take away is is you know,
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it is really an individual choice. And because each each
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person's brain chemistry is different, so I would you know,
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suggest everybody consult with their their doctor, their kids a